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[zan]

I agree, DIKO has been the extremist party, especially under the leadership of Papadopoulos. Having said this, I accept that there are people in DIKO who were swept away by the arrogance of people such as Papadopoulos, Koulias and Pittokopitis. I am sure there are decent people in this party that can get their voice back now and play a positive role in the efforts to find a solution. The same can be said of EDEK but EUROKO I am not sure, especially as far as their leadership goes.

Now, the worse service one can do to Cyprus at this time is to fanatise people about the prospect of finalising a deal with the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey. If we start with the assumption that nothing can be done because the Turks will not cooperate we might as well sign and seal the ill fate of our country. This is a cynical, totally wrong approach.

The right attitude is to work in good faith with our present day adversaries and tomorrow's partners in order to show to each other that together we can do it. Some people are saying that their aim in life is to prove that the other side is not willing to compromise. How is this going to help? Even if this is so, one cannot stop but continue to try. Things do not come easy in this world. We need staying power. Otherwise, we would all come to the tragic conclusion that we have only two options in front of us. Bloodshed or partition.

Looking forward to working with people like you gardas!!!!!

[DT.]

I agree, DIKO has been the extremist party, especially under the leadership of Papadopoulos. Having said this, I accept that there are people in DIKO who were swept away by the arrogance of people such as Papadopoulos, Koulias and Pittokopitis. I am sure there are decent people in this party that can get their voice back now and play a positive role in the efforts to find a solution. The same can be said of EDEK but EUROKO I am not sure, especially as far as their leadership goes.

Now, the worse service one can do to Cyprus at this time is to fanatise people about the prospect of finalising a deal with the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey. If we start with the assumption that nothing can be done because the Turks will not cooperate we might as well sign and seal the ill fate of our country. This is a cynical, totally wrong approach.

The right attitude is to work in good faith with our present day adversaries and tomorrow's partners in order to show to each other that together we can do it. Some people are saying that their aim in life is to prove that the other side is not willing to compromise. How is this going to help? Even if this is so, one cannot stop but continue to try. Things do not come easy in this world. We need staying power. Otherwise, we would all come to the tragic conclusion that we have only two options in front of us. Bloodshed or partition.

Looking forward to working with people like you gardas!!!!!

You moving back to work on this Zan? Who's keeping you away now that your dream excuse is gone?

WHat do yo do now without a bogeyman to blame the worlds problems on?

[zan]

I agree, DIKO has been the extremist party, especially under the leadership of Papadopoulos. Having said this, I accept that there are people in DIKO who were swept away by the arrogance of people such as Papadopoulos, Koulias and Pittokopitis. I am sure there are decent people in this party that can get their voice back now and play a positive role in the efforts to find a solution. The same can be said of EDEK but EUROKO I am not sure, especially as far as their leadership goes.

Now, the worse service one can do to Cyprus at this time is to fanatise people about the prospect of finalising a deal with the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey. If we start with the assumption that nothing can be done because the Turks will not cooperate we might as well sign and seal the ill fate of our country. This is a cynical, totally wrong approach.

The right attitude is to work in good faith with our present day adversaries and tomorrow's partners in order to show to each other that together we can do it. Some people are saying that their aim in life is to prove that the other side is not willing to compromise. How is this going to help? Even if this is so, one cannot stop but continue to try. Things do not come easy in this world. We need staying power. Otherwise, we would all come to the tragic conclusion that we have only two options in front of us. Bloodshed or partition.

Looking forward to working with people like you gardas!!!!!

You moving back to work on this Zan? Who's keeping you away now that your dream excuse is gone?

WHat do yo do now without a bogeyman to blame the worlds problems on?

His ideas live on mate don't you make any mistake about that......If I thought for one minute that he alone was the problem, I would have shot him long ago.......

My work can be done from here as it has been done to date.....I have worked alone and through a self belief that the right way will come about....Anything that you need to secure a safe future for ALL cypriots in a sensible way, please do not hesitate to ask...

[Numbers]

Does anyone on this forum ever sleep? Or is the last 24 hours an exception? I would put a smiley but I am new and can't work them out on the two hours' sleep I got last night.
I think Bananiot should run for president next time as he always sounds so reasonable. But then maybe not, coz he would only get 0.17% of the vote!

[Bananiot]

Yeap, Utopos will get more than me, but thanks for the thought.

[Get Real!]

Yeap, Utopos will get more than me, but thanks for the thought.

Maybe its time Bananiot also expanded on his version of a “Unified Republic of Cyprus” or whatever he may want to call it. Let's have it mate...

[Piratis]

I agree, DIKO has been the extremist party, especially under the leadership of Papadopoulos. Having said this, I accept that there are people in DIKO who were swept away by the arrogance of people such as Papadopoulos, Koulias and Pittokopitis. I am sure there are decent people in this party that can get their voice back now and play a positive role in the efforts to find a solution. The same can be said of EDEK but EUROKO I am not sure, especially as far as their leadership goes.

Now, the worse service one can do to Cyprus at this time is to fanatise people about the prospect of finalising a deal with the Turkish Cypriots and Turkey. If we start with the assumption that nothing can be done because the Turks will not cooperate we might as well sign and seal the ill fate of our country. This is a cynical, totally wrong approach.

The right attitude is to work in good faith with our present day adversaries and tomorrow's partners in order to show to each other that together we can do it. Some people are saying that their aim in life is to prove that the other side is not willing to compromise. How is this going to help? Even if this is so, one cannot stop but continue to try. Things do not come easy in this world. We need staying power. Otherwise, we would all come to the tragic conclusion that we have only two options in front of us. Bloodshed or partition.

"Extremism is a term used to describe the actions or ideologies of individuals or groups outside the perceived political center of a society; or otherwise claimed to violate common standards of ethics and reciprocity."

Bananiot, you and your group (Papapetrou and co) fit the extremist description to the letter. You represent less than 1.5% of the people and you support human rights violations and undemocratic systems. The other joker from your group, Themistocleous, who was a candidate, received less votes than Outopos. Why didn't they bring Outopos in the TV channels also and they were bringing your worthless joker?

Until a few months ago for you Christofias was "evil". Then you suddenly decided to follow Christofias a couple of months ago, while at the same time cheering for Kasoulides, thinking that your "party" would be the glue between DISY and AKEL in the second round so you could get rid of Papadopoulos, the only other thing you cared about after the destruction of Cyprus.

Well sorry mate, but your plan failed. Now Christofias will have to continue the same partnership he had with DIKO and EDEK, the one you hated, and you of EDI with your 1.5% can go back to your hole. Or you think Christofias will choose you, and let DIKO and EDEK to partner with Kasoulides? I don't think Christofias is so stupid but lets see.

[Bananiot]

You never learn Piratis, do you? You still think that the truth is a matter of statistics.

[zan]

You never learn Piratis, do you? You still think that the truth is a matter of statistics.

He's never been the same since we took away his numbers

[Piratis]

You never learn Piratis, do you? You still think that the truth is a matter of statistics.

And you think the truth is whatever you believe it is. Even if it is extreme, and even if it supports somehting undemocratic and against human rights of people.

He's never been the same since we took away his numbers

What numbers are you talking about Zan?

That the Turks are illegally occupying Cyprus for 34 years?

That the Turks have oppressed the Cypriot people for the 341 out of the 437 years they exists in Cyprus?

That since Turks invades our island you have not only oppressed us but you have also killed 10s of thousands of Cypriots?

That you have ethnically cleansed the great majority of the Cypriots people, about 200.000, and replaced them with foreign Settlers in order to create some "Turkish Republic" on land that belongs by 82% to Greek Cypriots?

So what numbers zan? Or you mean something like "oh, it is not 34 years but 33 years 5 months and 2 days" or "oh, it is not 200.000, but 180.000"