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[FreeSpirit]

Great ... who is going to temper BCN and FreeSpirit now that Eliko is gone ....

Stout it's up to you.

Eliko has never been able to temper me, he constantly misconstrues what has been written to the point where he blatantly lies.
This is one of my responses on another thread regarding Darfur

The African nations are supposed to be sorting that out as far as I know so why should the US get involved?

[quoteEliko]Good Heavens FreeSpirit, are you implying that what goes on in another country is 'None of our business?' [/quote][/quote][/quote]

My response was quite obvious to even the most limited amongst you; put simply the "African Union had been assigned to intervene", a force made up from African Nations was to act as a peacekeeping force. how can that be misinterpretated the way that Eliko did other than the proven fact that it is typical of him.
Liars such as Eliko always trip themselves up as I have just shown.

[Oracle]

Great ... who is going to temper BCN and FreeSpirit now that Eliko is gone ....

Stout it's up to you.

Eliko has never been able to temper me, he constantly misconstrues what has been written to the point where he blatantly lies.
This is one of my responses on another thread regarding Darfur

The African nations are supposed to be sorting that out as far as I know so why should the US get involved?

Good Heavens FreeSpirit, are you implying that what goes on in another country is 'None of our business?'

My response was quite obvious to even the most limited amongst you; put simply the "African Union had been assigned to intervene", a force made up from African Nations was to act as a peacekeeping force. how can that be misinterpretated the way that Eliko did other than the proven fact that it is typical of him.
Liars such as Eliko always trip themselves up as I have just shown.

OKAY FreeSpirit I will follow your next debate, because if Eliko found a reason to debate with you, there must have something going for you.

But I think the point Stout is making (and I know from my own experience ) is that once a forumer is unable to respond ... then it is unethical to quote them and continue point-scoring.

So here's your chance to take a breather ... and move on to a new debate, with someone who can engage in exchanges ...

Go post an interesting thread

[Stout]

Great ... who is going to temper BCN and FreeSpirit now that Eliko is gone ....

Stout it's up to you.

Oracle, I reckon I would rather have ten Aidans [is that BCN] around me than one ignorant old goat like freespirit, he only ever insults people and spouts claptrap. Eliko is a very nice person and he is a gentleman, he has spoken to my family and I hope he will come to my home when he is in the UK. I dont think it is fair to say nasty things about anyone when they know that they are safely out of the picture.
That is why Eliko booked freespirit as a bully and a coward, I reckon he was right.

I adore Eliko .... He is seldom (if ever ) wrong.

But I have not followed the FreeSpirit interactions.

I must say BCN makes me roar with laughter and he is a colourful forumer.

If you have any time to waste Oracle, have a look at the past postings of Freespirit, he changed his name from southerner and if you look back on him also you will see why.
As far as Freespirit is concerned, I think he should be ashamed of himself for the way he insulted a Muslim member, once he had rallied a bit of support, he just would not let go with his insults.
I know many Muslims, some of them I dont like very much but they are entitled to live their lives without having scum like Freespirit insulting them and there beliefs.
I think he must have some kind of mental problems to keep on at them like that.
In another post as southerner, he done the same thing and one after another comments came from him iuntil GorillaGirl asked him if he was talking to himself. I think he changed his name after that.

[FreeSpirit]

Great ... who is going to temper BCN and FreeSpirit now that Eliko is gone ....
Stout it's up to you.

I adore Eliko .... He is seldom (if ever ) wrong.
But I have not followed the FreeSpirit interactions.l:

I have shown Eliko to be a consistent liar, the one stroke of sense that he has shown is not to deny it on the ocassions where I have shown this.
I could have printed a page full of his lies and prevarications along with his art is misconstruing what has been written.

The so called bullying business being a classic example. I can't remember the exact words I used but I refered to a schoolyard snot who ran around telling tales and stiring up trouble in the schoolyard which resulted in him getinng his head put down the loo and the flush pulled, bullying I think not, just punishment meted out I think so.

Stout is a mental pygmy with the way that he has to resort to foul language the minute anyone says boo to him, what a fine example to his offspring. Eliko is welcome to him I'd rather have one Miltiades than ten of those two. (10 of those two, Perish the thought).

[FreeSpirit]

[But I think the point Stout is making (and I know from my own experience ) is that once a forumer is unable to respond ... then it is unethical to quote them and continue point-scoring.

Had Eliko not left with an insulting final comment aimed at me I would now be agreeing with you, but he didn't; he left with an insult for that he left himself open to response.

[Oracle]

Great ... who is going to temper BCN and FreeSpirit now that Eliko is gone ....
Stout it's up to you.

I adore Eliko .... He is seldom (if ever ) wrong.
But I have not followed the FreeSpirit interactions.l:

I have shown Eliko to be a consistent liar, the one stroke of sense that he has shown is not to deny it on the ocassions where I have shown this.
I could have printed a page full of his lies and prevarications along with his art is misconstruing what has been written.

The so called bullying business being a classic example. I can't remember the exact words I used but I refered to a schoolyard snot who ran around telling tales and stiring up trouble in the schoolyard which resulted in him getinng his head put down the loo and the flush pulled, bullying I think not, just punishment meted out I think so.

Stout is a mental pygmy with the way that he has to resort to foul language the minute anyone says boo to him, what a fine example to his offspring. Eliko is welcome to him I'd rather have one Miltiades than ten of those two. (10 of those two, Perish the thought).

For me the opinions are more important than the language used to convey them. ... so whatever Miltiades' language I really do not mind ... but what bothers me are his lack of judgement, reason and above all refusal to take-on board common sense.

I have never known Eliko to lie, he always uses exemplary language and he is willing to concede if a point is made.

Well Stout is around so he can defend himself .... and I know he is well able.

But how about putting the debate first before the presentation ...

[FreeSpirit]

As far as Freespirit is concerned, I think he should be ashamed of himself for the way he insulted a Muslim member, once he had rallied a bit of support, :

If you go to this thread you will see that I was down the queue telling this plonker where to go, incidently I had rallied know ones help, stout your getting as bad as Eliko fabricating things

YOU MUST KNOW THIS MAN - MUHAMMAD (PEACE BE UPON HIM)

What stout is not aware of is that this guy was given his marching order before stout ever joined.

[Oracle]

[But I think the point Stout is making (and I know from my own experience ) is that once a forumer is unable to respond ... then it is unethical to quote them and continue point-scoring.

Had Eliko not left with an insulting final comment aimed at me I would now be agreeing with you, but he didn't; he left with an insult for that he left himself open to response.

But now do you feel comfortable, having had the final word, knowing that Eliko cannot respond ... not because the point is so worthy, but because he is physically not able to reply ... don't you just feel a tad guilty and the honour tainted

[FreeSpirit]

[quote="Oracle"][I have never known Eliko to lie, he always uses exemplary language and he is willing to concede if a point is made./quote]

Then you have obviously not been following some Eliko's recent replies.
If I was lying now I certainly would not pursue the matter.
Having said that I will say no more on the matter; unless.

[Stout]

[I have never known Eliko to lie, he always uses exemplary language and he is willing to concede if a point is made./quote]

Then you have obviously not been following some Eliko's recent replies.
If I was lying now I certainly would not pursue the matter.
Having said that I will say no more on the matter; unless.

Freespirit, produce the evidence.