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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:08 pm

Cemetery for Greek soldiers in southern Cyprus

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Saturday , 22 September 2007



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The local Greek newspaper Simerini published a comment on Aug. 14, 2007 about the interment of Lt. Panikos Sotiris Danezis of the Greek Hellenic Army in the Makedonitissa Tomb in the Greek Cypriot sector of Nicosia. The remains of his body were found in Ozanköy (Kazafani) near Girne (Kyrenia) during the excavations being done by the Autonomous Missing Persons Committee. He was a sub-lieutenant in the troops sent by the government of Greece illegally to the island and was shot during combat with Turkish Peace Mission forces on July 22, 1974, at Bellapais.

According to Simerini, the excavated remains were identified by a DNA test and were inhumed with a military memorial.

His name is not in the list of the Greek mainland contingent deployed in Cyprus according to the 1960 Cyprus Treaty of Alliance. This means he was sent by the government of Greece and entered Cyprus illegally before 1974, unlawfully breaking international laws and United Nations rules and regulations.

Another local Greek newspaper published a comment on Sept. 9, 2007, about the enlargement of the Greek military cemetery.

The cemetery is now completely full and remains of soldiers sent by the Greek mainland government, now identified by the Autonomous Missing Persons Committee, can not be inhumed due to the shortage of ground.

On instructions given by Papadopoulos, the Greek Cypriot administration announced that the cemetery will be enlarged and the Ministry of Defense will handle the enlargement process.

The total number of graves already existing is not numerically in balance with the losses of the officially deployed Greek contingent in Cyprus during the 1974 Turkish intervention.

When the total number of missing Greek soldiers, buried Greek soldiers and Greek soldiers in Nicosia and Greece who managed to survive the intervention are added up, it is obvious that the amount of Greek soldiers was far more than the official number of those allowed to be deployed in Cyprus according to the 1960 Cyprus Treaty of Alliance.

Now it is time to ask what these additional Greek mainland soldiers, sent by the government of Greece, were doing on the island of Cyprus. Were they sent for a sunny holiday on the beaches of Cyprus or to massacre Turkish Cypriots in an effort to fulfill the great dream named the “Megalo Idea” by Alexander Ypsilanti in 1796?

It is officially recorded that some 20,000 Greek soldiers were sent to the island of Cyprus by the government of Greece in 1964, unofficially sneaking in with their armor, arsenal, ammunitions and vehicles.

In 1968, after four years of their tyranny and numerous massacres of Turkish Cypriots, these illegal Greek troops were forced to go back to Greece by an ultimatum from Turkey.

Paragraph 25 of the UN Secretary-General’s Report S/83446 of March 1968 to the UN Security Council, Appendix 18, titled “Withdrawal of Greek mainland troops from Cyprus,” reads as follows:

“25. The repatriation of the Greek national troops took place between 8 December 1967 and 16 January 1968, in pursuance of an agreement between Greece and Turkey arrived at in response to the Secretary-General’s appeals of 22 November, 24 November and 3 December 1967 (S/8248/Adds. 3,5 and 6). Since the responsibility for the repatriation operation was assumed at the time by the parties themselves and did not, strictly speaking, come within the UNFICYP mandate, UNFICYP undertook no independent observation in this connection. It was evident however that several thousand Greek National troops had left the island, taking with them a considerable amount of equipment and vehicles, including tanks. It is believed that most of the troops who were embarked came from formed units that were serving as part of the [Greek] Cyprus Government’s armed forces. It is known however that Greek national army officers and men are still serving individually in the National Guard and on the headquarters staff, but UNFICYP has not been in a position to estimate their number.”

It is quite obvious that the withdrawal of Greek mainland troops from Cyprus was just a display or a comedy staged by the Greek Cypriot administration and the government of Greece.

They existed on the island of Cyprus illegally and unlawfully from 1963 to 1974 and have numbered around 7,000 since 1974.

Whose existence is illegal on the island?

Is it the Turkish troops, who intervened according to the 1960 Cyprus Treaty of Guarantee on July 20, 1974 to prevent inter-communal clashes, or the Greek mainland troops, who are on the island with no official reason or treaty and killed thousands of innocent Turkish Cypriots during the dark years from 1963 to 1974?

22 September 2007
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:09 pm

Unwanted ‘Greeks’
Since the break-up of the Soviet Union in 1991, some 10,000 so- called ‘Russian Greeks’, who were given Greek passports by Greece settled in South Cyprus.

Originally they were welcomed by the Greek Cypriots to the island, Claiming them to be Greek refugees driven out by the Ottoman Turks during the WWI, Greece and the Greek Cypriot administration in South Cyprus used them as propaganda material.

Over the years, the so-called ‘Russian Greeks’, who felt more affiliation to Russians than to their hosts, began improving their ties with the Russian community of South Cyprus which number around 60,000.

In the ghettos they created for themselves in different parts of South Cyprus, they started to take part in criminal activities working hand in hand with the Russian Mafia.

The intolerant nature of Greek Cypriots coupled by the fact the ‘Greek Russians’ joined the Russian Mafia in criminal activities ranging from drug trafficking to prostitution, tensions started rising.

Greek Cypriot media reported that Feidias Sarikas, the mayor of the Paphos town, where many of the so -called ‘Russian Greeks’ are settled, asked the Greek Cypriot administration to disperse these people all over the island.

While the Greek Cypriot administration is warning the so-called ‘Russian Greeks’ that they will be expelled from the island if they are involved in criminal activities, some circles are saying that if they are dispersed all over the island it will constitute a racist act.

Greek Cypriot daily Cyprus Mail reported that the Greek Cypriot community declared these people “unwanted”.
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Postby Gabira » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:21 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:Now I challenge you to translate your signature into English,and tell us all how it is not racist...Like grandma like grandson by the look of it!!! :evil:


Racist against whom ?

I don`t need to be challenged by you.

Perhaps I am of gavur heritage too :wink:

I know what it says, and why my nene still says it today at the ripe old age of 85...God bless her :wink:

I love my nene very much and I`m proud to be just like her :D

Like I said, my nene has her reasons for her colourful views and I believe her views are justified.

My dede`s traumatic experiences in the 60`s were very well documented in the media back in the day.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:23 pm

Sixty thousand Russians! Where do you keep them hidden and they cannot be seen? That number on a small island would be more than obvious.

The Greek troops in Cyprus numbered one division, which brings the numbers up to around 10 000. After their withdrawal there was a number of officers who took posts in the national guard. Their number varied between 300 and 600. They were there with American and Turkish cuncurrence, thus making sure the national guard was nevr turly under Cypriot command, but under NATO control. These officers were not part of the ELDYK force so their names would not be on the official lists, but that does not justify arbitrarily blowing up their numbers to 7000.

These are cheap tricks to justify the colonisation of the north. But to whom are you trying to justify it? The people most directly affected are the TCs and they do not give a monkey's about Greek officer and such.

The assertion that between 1964 and 1968 there were thousands of TC casualties is totally ridiculous. Recheck your facts and events between 1964 and 1967.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:27 pm

Nikitas wrote:Sixty thousand Russians! Where do you keep them hidden and they cannot be seen? That number on a small island would be more than obvious.

The Greek troops in Cyprus numbered one division, which brings the numbers up to around 10 000. After their withdrawal there was a number of officers who took posts in the national guard. Their number varied between 300 and 600. They were there with American and Turkish cuncurrence, thus making sure the national guard was nevr turly under Cypriot command, but under NATO control. These officers were not part of the ELDYK force so their names would not be on the official lists, but that does not justify arbitrarily blowing up their numbers to 7000.

These are cheap tricks to justify the colonisation of the north. But to whom are you trying to justify it? The people most directly affected are the TCs and they do not give a monkey's about Greek officer and such.

The assertion that between 1964 and 1968 there were thousands of TC casualties is totally ridiculous. Recheck your facts and events between 1964 and 1967.


Where did those "Official" figures come from Nikitas.......Makarios and his regime were soooo honest and even gave us pictures of those nice Greeks...each and every one :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:31 pm

Nikitas wrote:Sixty thousand Russians! Where do you keep them hidden and they cannot be seen? That number on a small island would be more than obvious.

The Greek troops in Cyprus numbered one division, which brings the numbers up to around 10 000. After their withdrawal there was a number of officers who took posts in the national guard. Their number varied between 300 and 600. They were there with American and Turkish cuncurrence, thus making sure the national guard was nevr turly under Cypriot command, but under NATO control. These officers were not part of the ELDYK force so their names would not be on the official lists, but that does not justify arbitrarily blowing up their numbers to 7000.

These are cheap tricks to justify the colonisation of the north. But to whom are you trying to justify it? The people most directly affected are the TCs and they do not give a monkey's about Greek officer and such.

The assertion that between 1964 and 1968 there were thousands of TC casualties is totally ridiculous. Recheck your facts and events between 1964 and 1967.


Nikitas, lier Zan simply reposts the lies of the biggest lier Ata Atun.

I wonder, does anybody believe those lies?

If they do and with lies you can gain somehting, then I propose to start our own website and write whatever lies we can think about against the Turks, like they do against us. It is the easiest thing. What do you think?
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:34 pm

Piratis wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Sixty thousand Russians! Where do you keep them hidden and they cannot be seen? That number on a small island would be more than obvious.

The Greek troops in Cyprus numbered one division, which brings the numbers up to around 10 000. After their withdrawal there was a number of officers who took posts in the national guard. Their number varied between 300 and 600. They were there with American and Turkish cuncurrence, thus making sure the national guard was nevr turly under Cypriot command, but under NATO control. These officers were not part of the ELDYK force so their names would not be on the official lists, but that does not justify arbitrarily blowing up their numbers to 7000.

These are cheap tricks to justify the colonisation of the north. But to whom are you trying to justify it? The people most directly affected are the TCs and they do not give a monkey's about Greek officer and such.

The assertion that between 1964 and 1968 there were thousands of TC casualties is totally ridiculous. Recheck your facts and events between 1964 and 1967.


Nikitas, lier Zan simply reposts the lies of the biggest lier Ata Atun.

I wonder, does anybody believe those lies?

If they do and with lies you can gain somehting, then I propose to start our own website and write whatever lies we can think about against the Turks, like they do against us. It is the easiest thing. What do you think?



Heeeeeeeeeehe! The net is full of your filthy lies mate and I have no doubt that you have a hand in most of them......How is the poetry going by the way...I am sure others here would love to see some of your work and what you really think about TCs... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: :evil:
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Postby Piratis » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:40 pm

Everybody can write lies on the web. But only those who are liars themselves would promote those lies.

I have never promoted the writings of liars. When I give sources to support what I say I always give independent sources, like UN resolutions, ECHR rulings, reports from the Council of Europe etc.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:43 pm

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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:45 pm

Piratis wrote:Everybody can write lies on the web. But only those who are liars themselves would promote those lies.

I have never promoted the writings of liars. When I give sources to support what I say I always give independent sources, like UN resolutions, ECHR rulings, reports from the Council of Europe etc.





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