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[Bananiot]

Sener Levent, the Africa columnist and much acclaimed by Greek Cypriots, spoke his mind out in his column in yesterday's "Politis". Here is the article for the benefit of Greek speakers:

Το έχω γράψει και προηγουμένως. Αυτές οι εκλογές μοιάζουν με εκείνη την ιστορία του κρασιού. Θυμάστε, εκείνη την ιστορία στην οποία έδωσαν στον άνθρωπο δύο διαφορετικά ποτήρια κρασί και του είπαν να διαλέξει το καλύτερο. Αφού τα ήπιε και τα δυο, ο άνδρας είπε: "Το άλλο είναι καλύτερο". Εκπλάγηκαν. "Μα, δεν γεύτηκες το άλλο. Πού ξέρεις ότι είναι καλύτερο"; Και ο άνδρας τους απάντησε: "Διότι κανένα κρασί δεν μπορεί να είναι χειρότερο από αυτό".

Ο Ραούφ Ντενκτάς ήταν για εμάς ένα τέτοιο κρασί. Δεν θα μπορούσε να υπάρξει χειρότερος. Όποιος και αν ήταν απέναντί του θα ήταν καλύτερος. Και έπρεπε να αλλαχτεί με αυτόν. Όλοι θα μπορούσαν να ψηφίσουν με κλειστά τα μάτια σε τέτοιες εκλογές. Άλλωστε έτσι έγινε τελικά. Όταν τον άφησε η Άγκυρα, έφυγε κακήν κακώς ο Ντενκτάς. Επειδή ήξερε ότι δεν θα μπορούσε να κερδίσει, δεν τόλμησε να γευτεί την ήττα και δεν κατήλθε καν υποψήφιος στις εκλογές. Η Άγκυρα επέλεξε τον Ταλάτ. Αλλά αν δεν αναμειγνυόταν καθόλου η Άγκυρα και αν απαγορευόταν στους εκ Τουρκίας ψηφοφόρους να ψηφίσουν, πάλι θα έχανε ο Ντενκτάς αν έθετε υποψηφιότητα. Διότι οι Τουρκοκύπριοι είχαν γευτεί εδώ και πολύ καιρό αυτό το κακό κρασί, αυτό το κρασί, από το οποίο δεν θα μπορούσε να υπάρξει χειρότερο. Η Άγκυρα ήταν αυτή που στην ουσία δεν είχε αφήσει τους Τουρκοκύπριους να ζήσουν τη χαρά της νίκης κατά του Ντενκτάς. Αυτή η νίκη τους επισκιάστηκε με το νέο υποψήφιο που έβαλε στη σκηνή η Άγκυρα. Γι' αυτό, κόπηκε νωρίς ο ενθουσιασμός εκείνων που ετοιμάζονταν να κάνουν μπαϊράμι σαράντα μέρες και σαράντα νύκτες όταν ανατράπηκε ο Ντενκτάς. Κανένας δεν θεώρησε πως ήταν νίκη αυτή η αλλαγή που συντελέστηκε με την παρέμβαση της Άγκυρας. Κανένας δεν μπόρεσε να ζήσει αυτή τη χαρά όπως του άξιζε. Άλλωστε, όταν κοιτάμε την παρούσα κατάσταση, ο Ντενκτάς δεν μοιάζει καθόλου με ηγέτη που έχει ανατραπεί. Έχει τον αέρα του ηγέτη, όπως παλιά. Και μάλιστα, σαν να έχει αποκτήσει περισσότερη αξία. Δηλαδή είναι σαν ένας πνευματικός ηγέτης. Δίνει συμβουλές σε όσους θεωρήθηκαν κατάλληλοι να τον διαδεχτούν. Οι νεοεκλεγέντες παίρνουν μαθήματα από αυτόν. Μάλιστα, τον τιμούν συχνά. Και οι "μεγάλοι" που έρχονται από την Άγκυρα δεν επιστρέφουν πίσω αν δεν τον επισκεφτούν.

Έχω να πω το εξής: Η ελληνοκυπριακή κοινότητα βρίσκεται μπροστά σε ένα κομβικό σημείο. Με την απόφαση που θα πάρουν την Κυριακή οι ψηφοφόροι θα ανοίξουν πανιά σε νέους ορίζοντες ή θα συνεχίσουν να ζουν ανάμεσα στα γρανάζια ενός μηχανισμού σάπιου και βρόμικου. Ουσιαστικά, ο Παπαδόπουλος είναι φτιαγμένος από το ίδιο κρασί με εκείνο του Ντενκτάς. Δεν μπορεί να υπάρξει χειρότερο. Πρέπει να αλλάξει. Δοκιμάστηκε ο Παπαδόπουλος. Και αυτό κόστισε πολύ ακριβά στην Κύπρο. Ήταν πράγματι πολύ μεγάλη ατυχία να μην βρίσκεται επικεφαλής της κοινότητας ένας ηγέτης που έβλεπε μπροστά και ήταν ελαστικός αυτά τα πιο κρίσιμα χρόνια του νησιού. Μπορεί άραγε να είναι πραγματικός ηγέτης κάποιος που δεν έχει άλλη επιλογή από το να βρει καταφύγιο στα δάκρυα του από τηλεοράσεως; Δεν είναι συμπεριφορά που θα μπορούσε να συγχωρεθεί το γεγονός ότι στη Νέα Υόρκη έγινε αποδεκτή η υποβολή του σχεδίου σε δημοψήφισμα και, επιπλέον, χωρίς να υποβληθεί κανένας όρος γι' αυτό. Έπρεπε τουλάχιστο να γνωρίζουν όλοι ότι δεν θα μπορούσε να διεξαχθεί δημοψήφισμα στην κατεχόμενη περιοχή. Αν παρά ταύτα υπήρχε επιμονή για διεξαγωγή του δημοψηφίσματος, έπρεπε να υποβληθεί η απαίτηση να καθοριστεί ο αριθμός των ψηφοφόρων στο βόρειο μέρος της Κύπρου και να μην ψηφίσουν όσοι δεν είναι Κύπριοι. Ούτε αυτό δεν το απαίτησε.

Αν οι Ελληνοκύπριοι γνωρίζουν ότι μόνο μαζί με τους Τουρκοκύπριους θα καταστεί δυνατή η επίτευξη λύσης στην Κύπρο, δεν πρέπει να είναι ο Παπαδόπουλος ο ηγέτης που θα εκλέξουν. Ο Παπαδόπουλος είναι ένας ηγέτης που, από τη μια, έχασε το κύρος του στη διεθνή σκηνή και, από την άλλη, έγινε ένα μηδενικό μπροστά στους Τουρκοκύπριους που υποστηρίζουν την ειρήνη. Μόνο οι οπαδοί της διχοτόμησης στη βόρεια Κύπρο προσεύχονται για να κερδίσει ο Παπαδόπουλος. Τόσο ο κύκλος της Άγκυρας όσο και αυτός του Ντενκτάς. Όπως η ελληνοκυπριακή πλευρά φαινόταν αγαπητή σε όλους με φόντο τον Ντενκτάς, έτσι φαίνεται και η τουρκική πλευρά με φόντο τον Παπαδόπουλο. Γι' αυτό δεν θέλει να χάσει τον Παπαδόπουλο. Ελπίζω πως την Κυριακή δεν θα προσφέρουν ένα τέτοιο δώρο στην Άγκυρα και τον Ντενκτάς οι Ελληνοκύπριοι ψηφοφόροι.

And here is the essence (dedicated to Piratis) of the above: Only the supporters of partition in the north are praying for Papadopoulos to win the elections, those circles in Ankara and those of Denktash.

[Nikitas]

OK, let us see now. Pap should not be elected because he is pro partition. The DISI party of Kassoulides is the last stronghold of the EOKA B bunch, which rules them out. Christofias is the remaining choice, but the objections to him are his AKEL socialist-communist background which will antagonize Americans and the British.

And now what?

[Piratis]

Only the supporters of partition in the north are praying for Papadopoulos to win the elections, those circles in Ankara and those of Denktash.

Denktash with his stubbornness for 30 years has managed to push us to make more and more compromises. Our "good boys" Vassiliou and Cleredes made so many compromises that the result was something totally unecceptable for the Cypriot people, the Annan plan.

Denktash was getting the "bad boy" label, while Vassiliou / Cleredes received the "good boy" award for being idiots and compromising everything, even the basic human rights of the Cypriot people.

Now we need somebody that will reverse the damage done by Vassiliou / Cleredes in order to achieve something that is at least acceptable by the majority of the Cypriot people. That somebody can not be a "good boy" nainaikos who will just say yes yes yes and keep giving up the rights of the Cypriot people.

That person has to be somebody who puts Cyprus above his own image, somebody who doesn't care to win the "good boy" award from the AngloAmericans, but who is willing to fight for justice. That somebody is Tassos Papadopoulos.

In Ankara they don't care about "good boy" awards as we cared when Vassiliou / Cleredes were in power. They know that the "good boy" award can gain for them at max some ferry with Syrian immigrants, some visit from an ex-politician and some empty words. They don't care about these peanuts.

What those in Ankara want is to close the Cyprus problem in their favor with a partition plan like the Annan plan. Such plan not only will officially Turkify the north part of our country, but it will also give them control over the whole Cyprus since we, the majority of Cypriots, will be downgraded to some "component state" without control of our own foreign affairs and therefore unable to pose any problems to Turkey in EU or UN. Thats the dream "solution" for them: Partition + neutralizing Greek Cypriots.

That is why they don't want Papadopoulos to win the elections, because they know that with Papadopoulos their dream "solution" can not be applied.

[zan]

Only the supporters of partition in the north are praying for Papadopoulos to win the elections, those circles in Ankara and those of Denktash.

Denktash with his stubbornness for 30 years has managed to push us to make more and more compromises. Our "good boys" Vassiliou and Cleredes made so many compromises that the result was something totally unecceptable for the Cypriot people, the Annan plan.

Denktash was getting the "bad boy" label, while Vassiliou / Cleredes received the "good boy" award for being idiots and compromising everything, even the basic human rights of the Cypriot people.

Now we need somebody that will reverse the damage done by Vassiliou / Cleredes in order to achieve something that is at least acceptable by the majority of the Cypriot people. That somebody can not be a "good boy" nainaikos who will just say yes yes yes and keep giving up the rights of the Cypriot people.

That person has to be somebody who puts Cyprus above his own image, somebody who doesn't care to win the "good boy" award from the AngloAmericans, but who is willing to fight for justice. That somebody is Tassos Papadopoulos.

In Ankara they don't care about "good boy" awards as we cared when Vassiliou / Cleredes were in power. They know that the "good boy" award can gain for them at max some ferry with Syrian immigrants, some visit from an ex-politician and some empty words. They don't care about these peanuts.

What those in Ankara want is to close the Cyprus problem in their favor with a partition plan like the Annan plan. Such plan not only will officially Turkify the north part of our country, but it will also give them control over the whole Cyprus since we, the majority of Cypriots, will be downgraded to some "component state" without control of our own foreign affairs and therefore unable to pose any problems to Turkey in EU or UN. Thats the dream "solution" for them: Partition + neutralizing Greek Cypriots.

That is why they don't want Papadopoulos to win the elections, because they know that with Papadopoulos their dream "solution" can not be applied.

Hahahahahahaa! Which agreement did any of those actually sign then Piratis

[Bananiot]

Nikitas wrote

The DISI party of Kassoulides is the last stronghold of the EOKA B bunch, which rules them out

That is totally wrong. Most EOKA B supporters have left DISI for Euroko and have adhered to Papadopoulos like leaches. Need I remind you of what Stylianos Patakos wrote to Papadopoulos in 2004?

[Piratis]

Nikitas wrote

The DISI party of Kassoulides is the last stronghold of the EOKA B bunch, which rules them out

That is totally wrong. Most EOKA B supporters have left DISI for Euroko and have adhered to Papadopoulos like leaches. Need I remind you of what Stylianos Patakos wrote to Papadopoulos in 2004?

Really? And who are they? Karras? Pourgourides? Or maybe the son of Samson? No. All of them in DISY. In fact some of them like Pourgourides are big advocates of Annan plan and the collaboration of AKEL and DISY!! One would think that CIA stopped sending checks to them after all these years.

And who went to the Grivas memorial some weeks ago? Papadopoulos? No. Kasoulides? Yes.

[Bananiot]

The only person in Cyprus that has receipts to show from money paid by the CIA is Papadopoulos. Pourgourides had the decency to express publicly his grief for supporting the junta as a student at the time studying in London. How old was Sampson's son in 1974? Perhaps less than 10 years old? The father, however, was a comrade in arms with Papadopoulos, so you need to be careful here Piratis.

I think also that you are really funny when you keep saying that junta supporters are pro Kasoulides but then you conveniently close your eyes to the fact that the junta leaders of the likes of Patakos are fervent supporters of Papadopoulos.

[Piratis]

The only person in Cyprus that has receipts to show from money paid by the CIA is Papadopoulos. Pourgourides had the decency to express publicly his grief for supporting the junta as a student at the time studying in London. How old was Sampson's son in 1974? Perhaps less than 10 years old? The father, however, was a comrade in arms with Papadopoulos, so you need to be careful here Piratis.

I think also that you are really funny when you keep saying that junta supporters are pro Kasoulides but then you conveniently close your eyes to the fact that the junta leaders of the likes of Patakos are fervent supporters of Papadopoulos.

Papadopoulos has nothing to do with EOKA B my friend. Papadopoulos fought in EOKA 55-59 just like the majority of Cypriots did, after 1960 he was on the side of Makarios just like the majority of Cypriots, and he rejected the Annan plan just like the majority did. Papadopoulos is the person that is the most representative of the great majority of Cypriots, and that is why he will be re-elected.

You said that DISY EOKA Bs left from DISY and went with Papadopoulos. I asked you to tell us who are they exactly, but you didn't. On the other hand I gave you a few examples of EOKA Bs that were and are in DISY, and all you can do is try to excuse them.

And who cares what Patakos, a 96 year old man, says? Only you probably. Because the candidates are judged based on their own actions, and Kasoulides, not Papadopoulos, was the one attending the Grivas memorial just a few weeks ago showing his true colors. But apparently you wouldn't have a problem to bring EOKA B back in power. You would do whatever it takes to destroy Cyprus, silence Greek Cypriots and give the control of our whole island to Turkey.

[DT.]

Bananiot, stop opposing Tpap, you're gonna make me vote for him.

[Bananiot]

I think you should DT, he is only 76 whereas Patakos is 96 and Grivas is rotting in hell since 1972 but Piratis cares a lot about him even today. Anyway, my latest info on the elections is that it is going to be a three way photo finish with a dead heat a serious possibility.