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Postby miltiades » Sun Feb 17, 2008 1:15 am

There is no doubt that Phoenix is an educated lady , but , ( in my humble opinion !!!! ) she is very much an educated fool who can not see that her comments and anti Turkish outbursts can only be damaging to Cyprus and to the future of this Island. Like it or not Phoenix , the T/Cs are here to stay , as Umit 07 as well as VP posted , "we are Cypriots NOT MONGOLIANS. "
My philosophy is based on the fact that there are in Cyprus two indigenous people , the T/Cs and G/Cs. We can either live together as Cypriots respecting each others concerns and rights or live apart as two separate nations. I detest the notion that Cyprus is two nations , I believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that should partition or worst annexation of North Cyprus by Turkey becomes solidified , the future generations will react and conflict will occur with far more detrimental effects that hitherto .
Why not forgive and forgets for crying out loud and unite as Cypriots , G/Cs and T/Cs , but the emphasis on the true and the TANGIBLE identity of our nation.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:43 am

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umit07 wrote:OW I see we are getting moody now :lol: . What exactly are you accomplishing wasting our time "winding" TC's up all the time, telling us we are "traitors" and that we should be sent back to "Mongolia" . I'm having a hard time understanding!

Face it you like to "bark up the tree" , or you wouldn't spend so much time on the forum!


I post in small pockets during the day and in the evening, because I do not watch TV or other time wasting things. I am allowed some time to do my own thing. :wink: You are the student that should be concentrating on your studies ... I have more degrees than I can use at the moment :lol:

If you think I post too much ... ignore me! Or complain to Admin.

Instead .....You Turk-TCs take a great pride in taking it in turns to pick on me individually ... depending on who is on shift at the time ... earlier it was Zan ... now it is you.

I never aim any of my anti-Turkish stuff at any one particular Turk or TC, umit.

I do not attempt to waste any particular forumers time ... I post general comments and observations and opinions ....

But I have more personal abuse from individuals such as (if we care to go back over your recent posts) yourself ... than any other member does.

I know you all work as a team to hound individuals (not necessarily just me ... I have seen you do it to other GCs) ... Especially when you have lost your arguments ... so I will take it as a triumph :D

I shall in future not reply to such as your posts that are too personal, too threatening and do not give me intellectual or linguistic stimulation. :roll:

Goodbye umit .... go study boy .... you have much to learn!


The same mentality as GR and now crying rape..Gr went around poking his nose where it was not wanted and upsetting everyone and then wondered why no body liked him too :cry: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

If you were to think further along those lines, if you could think at all, then you would see that you are talking to so many TCs because you are attacking so many TCs.....

But I suppose the games up and me and Umit are working together to plot your downfall.... :evil: :evil: :evil: 8) If we knew who the hell you were that is :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Umit..You get her legs and I will grab her by the horns... :lol: :lol: :lol:



Honestly though....You really are not capable of posting anything but pure propaganda and drivel.... :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:12 am

umit07 wrote: I talk straight, with no bullshit.


Not from my perspective :lol:

umit wrote:Well as I see it your every post is directed towards insults constantly telling us we are "traitors" and "mongols" that should go back to Mongolia. Not a day passes without hearing this from you. Don't you think this is personal? To you we are all the same "scumy turks" as you say, you can't even differentiate between us. Similar to "NAZI" behaviour as a "Jew is a Jew".


Referring to your Mongol origins is not meant as an insult ... but you all take it as such :? so it has given me great amusement and interest to get to the bottom of why you all take it as an insult ... :?

As for "traitors" ..... those are facts ... but I can understand why you do not like being reminded of those .... still I am not here to make you feel good about what you have done.

BTW I have never used the term "scumy Turk" .... :?

umit wrote:BUT when it comes to INTELLECTUAL talk! You are far from it , I would consider a shepherd to have more of an intellectual view on the Cyprus issue than you. You are far from it!


I too agree shepherds can be intellectual :D ... I do not go by any achievements other than the posting of interesting comments. Indeed I often ridicule my own achievements ... so do not fall into the arrogant trap of thinking you are so intellectually above a shepherd just because you are at college :lol:

This has been the most interesting thing you have posted to date ...... :D

But umit .... under no circumstances am I advocating you post less .... I have no problem with what you say but I do need to remind you of when you are going off the tracks ........ towards things that interest me not ... ie personal stuff.

Keep posting when you can.

Pip pip :D
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 17, 2008 8:21 am

Zan wrote: ..... then wondered why no body liked him too :cry: :lol: ...


I am not out to get people to like me ... and I do not wonder whether they do or don't ... I am just not interested in discussing past personal stuff .... as that is not what this forum is about.

If we can just agree to a few rules .... then maybe we can make the discussions better ... and frankly recently they have been a bit lacking :roll:

However ... the resorting to personal attacks is a MAJOR indicator of when you Turks have lost the argument ... all that remains is then to just point it out. :P
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Postby BC Numismatics » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:11 pm

There's no such place as 'Turkish Cyprus',nor is there a 'Greek Cyprus'.There is only one Cyprus.

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Postby umit07 » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:46 pm

Phoenix

I and fellow TC's have portrayed themselves as "Turkish Cypriots" with the "Cypriot" part being the soul. But then again you call us "Mongols" , you like to brand us with something we are not and yet after constantly being told , you still do it! Don't you think that is insulting ?

To the "traitor" part of things, the traitor word is often used in the North as well to "brand" people , in the past this was most evident. The essense of the word "traitor" is a very strong one with a deep meaning. Do NOT use it as a simple word. Firstly to be a "traitor" I have to be "loyal" first, I have never been a "loyal" subject of the jacked , post 63 "RoC" , so how could I be a "traitor" to something I don't believe in?

When it comes to the "shephrd" remark both my grandfathers have been shepherds at some time during their lives. I have done some shepherding as well, ( not much, but then again I have ). I never meant the statement to have a degrading meaning towards shepherds, I meant the exact opposite! This remark was sparked after I read something from you saying you had many "degree's" , a degree does not make you what you are! You may have many "degree's" but in my opinion you are completely deluded about the situation in Cyprus.

Bye Bye for now.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 17, 2008 12:49 pm

zan wrote:The same mentality as GR and now crying rape..Gr went around poking his nose where it was not wanted and upsetting everyone and then wondered why no body liked him too :cry: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Keep thinking... Paranoid Schizophrenia.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:22 pm

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Zan wrote: ..... then wondered why no body liked him too :cry: :lol: ...


I am not out to get people to like me ... and I do not wonder whether they do or don't ... I am just not interested in discussing past personal stuff .... as that is not what this forum is about.

If we can just agree to a few rules .... then maybe we can make the discussions better ... and frankly recently they have been a bit lacking :roll:

However ... the resorting to personal attacks is a MAJOR indicator of when you Turks have lost the argument ... all that remains is then to just point it out. :P


I don't think you know what the hell you want...Just like any confused person you spout off hate and venom and then ask for sympathy as you are in your above post...Trying to justify why you act the way you do..A cry for help if ever I saw one :roll: :roll:

And as for name calling..... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Your entire history is that of name calling....hehehehehe! Your foot must be full of bullet holes :lol: :lol: :lol: AND...Have a look at GRs last post......TWO more for the white jackets I think :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oh! And those few rules you want us to abide by...Do they consist of only talking about Turkey and the GC refugees by any chance.... :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: On Yer Bike!!!! :roll:
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Postby Oracle » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:25 pm

umit07 wrote:Phoenix

I and fellow TC's have portrayed themselves as "Turkish Cypriots" with the "Cypriot" part being the soul. But then again you call us "Mongols" , you like to brand us with something we are not and yet after constantly being told , you still do it! Don't you think that is insulting ?

No ... History records your origins as from Mongolia ... I do not use it in a derogatory way, and once you proclaim pride in your origins ... I will develop some respect for you as a Nation.
umit wrote:To the "traitor" part of things, the traitor word is often used in the North as well to "brand" people , in the past this was most evident. The essense of the word "traitor" is a very strong one with a deep meaning. Do NOT use it as a simple word. Firstly to be a "traitor" I have to be "loyal" first, I have never been a "loyal" subject of the jacked , post 63 "RoC" , so how could I be a "traitor" to something I don't believe in?


My point exactly ... so how can you ask to be viewed as heroes when you have never been loyal to Cyprus.

As for the word traitor ... I do not use it lightly, but I am in no doubt, those that collude with the continuing occupation by Turkey .... are literally .... traitors !

Again umit ... you may not like the truth, so how about changing it?

umit wrote:When it comes to the "shephrd" remark both my grandfathers have been shepherds at some time during their lives. I have done some shepherding as well, ( not much, but then again I have ). I never meant the statement to have a degrading meaning towards shepherds, I meant the exact opposite! This remark was sparked after I read something from you saying you had many "degree's" , a degree does not make you what you are! You may have many "degree's" but in my opinion you are completely deluded about the situation in Cyprus.

Bye Bye for now.


I am glad you are not the type that demeans people because of the job they do. I also have a grievance with those people that look down on "peasants" .... for the simple reason of extolling themselves.

I think people should be proud of whatever they do ... so long as it's legal and worthy.

As for the "degrees" comment .... you have missed its context ... the point I was making was that it does not matter how many degrees you may have .... you may choose a path that uses none of them :D

I hope we are paving the way for dissecting opinions and facts from now on.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 17, 2008 4:46 pm

Oracle wrote:
umit07 wrote:Phoenix

I and fellow TC's have portrayed themselves as "Turkish Cypriots" with the "Cypriot" part being the soul. But then again you call us "Mongols" , you like to brand us with something we are not and yet after constantly being told , you still do it! Don't you think that is insulting ?

No ... History records your origins as from Mongolia ... I do not use it in a derogatory way, and once you proclaim pride in your origins ... I will develop some respect for you as a Nation.
umit wrote:To the "traitor" part of things, the traitor word is often used in the North as well to "brand" people , in the past this was most evident. The essense of the word "traitor" is a very strong one with a deep meaning. Do NOT use it as a simple word. Firstly to be a "traitor" I have to be "loyal" first, I have never been a "loyal" subject of the jacked , post 63 "RoC" , so how could I be a "traitor" to something I don't believe in?


My point exactly ... so how can you ask to be viewed as heroes when you have never been loyal to Cyprus.

As for the word traitor ... I do not use it lightly, but I am in no doubt, those that collude with the continuing occupation by Turkey .... are literally .... traitors !

Again umit ... you may not like the truth, so how about changing it?

umit wrote:When it comes to the "shephrd" remark both my grandfathers have been shepherds at some time during their lives. I have done some shepherding as well, ( not much, but then again I have ). I never meant the statement to have a degrading meaning towards shepherds, I meant the exact opposite! This remark was sparked after I read something from you saying you had many "degree's" , a degree does not make you what you are! You may have many "degree's" but in my opinion you are completely deluded about the situation in Cyprus.

Bye Bye for now.


I am glad you are not the type that demeans people because of the job they do. I also have a grievance with those people that look down on "peasants" .... for the simple reason of extolling themselves.

I think people should be proud of whatever they do ... so long as it's legal and worthy.

As for the "degrees" comment .... you have missed its context ... the point I was making was that it does not matter how many degrees you may have .... you may choose a path that uses none of them :D

I hope we are paving the way for dissecting opinions and facts from now on.



Cry for help again!!!!! Please agree that you are Mongolians so that I can then give you some respect!!! Please!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

We are just as much a mixed people as you are dear...This childish simplification of a race that is not pure is even more shocking coming from someone who says she works with genes.....Take a look at your own lot and tell me there is not a hint of Mongolian or what ever race in them as well.....I bet your house is anally pigeon holed into a tidy little palace in which every item has it's place :lol: :lol: :lol:

The traitors to Cyprus are those that tried to kill part of this mixed race we call Cypriot and hand the island over to Greece and are still after the same thing because like you they are too scared to see that there are very few pure race tribes left in Europe and want to get an identity with another bastard race in Greece.......We are happy to be who we are and that is Turkish Cypriots of today and we want our cultures and ways included in our country and not usurped by you. Our blood, our hearts and our traditions are in Cyprus and you have attempted to destroy all of them....... :evil: :evil: :evil:
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