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Postby Oracle » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:05 pm

Eliko wrote:
Eliko wrote:
Oracle wrote:
iceman wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Eliko wrote: .....I do not like politicians, I would rather deal with straight talking folk, a rarity these days I fear. :wink:


.... look no further :D


Yeah,but the trouble is,you seem to be talking straight out of your arse :lol: :lol: :lol:


That's the only orifice to communicate with Turks ... :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 'iceman', I've got to tell you, you lost that round mate !. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Oracle, I spluttered my drink over the screen of my P.C. on account of your retort. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


I see from the above post that "iceman" continues the tradition of Turks concentrating on their nether regions as much as possible, for the purpose of communicating and bonding with their fellow humans. :lol:

But not wishing to trash "Talisker's" fine observations on politicians, I shall desist from mentioning "Turks and Anuses" again ... :lol: :lol:
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Postby Talisker » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:50 pm

Eliko wrote:
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Eliko wrote:Talisker, Politicians actually employ professionals to instruct them on how they should present themselves when in the public eye.

The whole business of politics is riddled with such 'Stage management' in order that he who employs it has a better chance of securing his position.

The actual 'Verbals' are also invariably the work of the behind the scenes 'Mentors' whose objectives are to ensure that their proposals are the ones which become accepted.

Politics has become akin to show-business, one has only to look at the performances now under direction in the U.S.A. to draw such conclusions.

The successful politician (or those that are behind him) will have the ability to avoid answering any question put to him directly having made provision for the fact that he may face contradiction in any case.

As long as it sounds good and wins votes, anything is acceptable to a politician intent upon his aims.

In the rare event of a genuine representative of the people daring to show his head above the ramparts, he will soon either be shot in the head or have his thoughts and ambitious principles altered to suit those who are truly in control.

I do not like politicians, I would rather deal with straight talking folk, a rarity these days I fear. :wink:

Eliko, I can't disagree with your comments. However, let's face it, election campaigns are a game. I posted this thread because I felt that I had been able to see the images of the politicians without hearing the messages, and that is quite an unusual position (at least for me) to observe the game. Therefore, my impressions were formed from only the body language and visual presentation skills (coached or not) of the candidates. Hence my conclusions.


Talisker, when you consider the fact that you were unable to understand what the politician actually said, it places you in an enviable position in that you will not be subject to disappointment when all the lies are exposed, since you didn't know of their existence in the first place.

Perhaps WE should cast our votes in China and THEY here, I doubt if it would make much difference to any of us in the long run. :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

I love your idea for voting for candidates in other countries. In order for this to be of real value one must only be allowed a vote if total ignorance of the political, sociological and economic circumstances of that country can be demonstrated :wink: .

Yes, perhaps I'd be a marketing man's ideal guinea pig to find out if the image rather than the message was getting through in Cyprus! Not being in marketing I don't know the relative importance of image versus message, but I would bet image is more important. As an example, although he clearly didn't turn out to be a paragon of virtue, my understanding of modern American history brings about recall of Richard Nixon losing a US presidential election (1964?) from a winning position on the message because he was sweating profusely in an interview or debate. So image counts!

Speaking of which, maybe it is the luck of the draw on my TV channel hopping these last few days, but Christofias seems to get a lot of airplay, and frequently his speeches are followed by very impressive bands playing Theodorakis' classic music. What is the Chrisofias-Theodorakis connection? Not obvious to this non-Cypriot............the music is great though! :)
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Re: Body language of the candidates

Postby Sotos » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:26 am

Talisker wrote:I saw parts of the debate on TV last night (difficult to avoid it!), and as someone who can't speak Greek had to rely on body language for my overall impressions of the candidates. Without reference to any policies, and relying only on my visual interpretation of the candidates, here are those impressions:

Papadopoulos - authoratative, calm, rarely flustered, but little in the way of charisma.

Christofias - fluent, almost seemed to be trying too hard, but appeared to have a grasp of the message he was trying to convey.

Kasoulides - arrogant, almost seemed dismissive of both the interviewers and his opponents, to me by far the least impressive.

Any thoughts anyone else?


:shock: You seem to be good in the body language! When you said you don't speak Greek I thought you would write some irrelevant shit but you are pretty close!!
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Postby Eliko » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:34 am

Talisker wrote:
Eliko wrote:
Talisker wrote:
Eliko wrote:Talisker, Politicians actually employ professionals to instruct them on how they should present themselves when in the public eye.

The whole business of politics is riddled with such 'Stage management' in order that he who employs it has a better chance of securing his position.

The actual 'Verbals' are also invariably the work of the behind the scenes 'Mentors' whose objectives are to ensure that their proposals are the ones which become accepted.

Politics has become akin to show-business, one has only to look at the performances now under direction in the U.S.A. to draw such conclusions.

The successful politician (or those that are behind him) will have the ability to avoid answering any question put to him directly having made provision for the fact that he may face contradiction in any case.

As long as it sounds good and wins votes, anything is acceptable to a politician intent upon his aims.

In the rare event of a genuine representative of the people daring to show his head above the ramparts, he will soon either be shot in the head or have his thoughts and ambitious principles altered to suit those who are truly in control.

I do not like politicians, I would rather deal with straight talking folk, a rarity these days I fear. :wink:

Eliko, I can't disagree with your comments. However, let's face it, election campaigns are a game. I posted this thread because I felt that I had been able to see the images of the politicians without hearing the messages, and that is quite an unusual position (at least for me) to observe the game. Therefore, my impressions were formed from only the body language and visual presentation skills (coached or not) of the candidates. Hence my conclusions.


Talisker, when you consider the fact that you were unable to understand what the politician actually said, it places you in an enviable position in that you will not be subject to disappointment when all the lies are exposed, since you didn't know of their existence in the first place.

Perhaps WE should cast our votes in China and THEY here, I doubt if it would make much difference to any of us in the long run. :lol: :lol: :lol: :wink:

I love your idea for voting for candidates in other countries. In order for this to be of real value one must only be allowed a vote if total ignorance of the political, sociological and economic circumstances of that country can be demonstrated :wink: .

Yes, perhaps I'd be a marketing man's ideal guinea pig to find out if the image rather than the message was getting through in Cyprus! Not being in marketing I don't know the relative importance of image versus message, but I would bet image is more important. As an example, although he clearly didn't turn out to be a paragon of virtue, my understanding of modern American history brings about recall of Richard Nixon losing a US presidential election (1964?) from a winning position on the message because he was sweating profusely in an interview or debate. So image counts!

Speaking of which, maybe it is the luck of the draw on my TV channel hopping these last few days, but Christofias seems to get a lot of airplay, and frequently his speeches are followed by very impressive bands playing Theodorakis' classic music. What is the Chrisofias-Theodorakis connection? Not obvious to this non-Cypriot............the music is great though! :)


Talisker, it was a pleasure reading your take on the responses you received. Best Wishes to you and yours. Eliko. :wink:
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Postby Eliko » Sat Feb 16, 2008 1:40 am

iceman wrote:I haven't lost anything M8...I just did not want to lower myself anymore....but since you mentioned it,if she wants to use her "orifice" to talk to Turks then she can talk to Turkish cocks (circumcised ones) :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:




Absolutely uncalled for mate, a step too far methinks. :shock:
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