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[Bananiot]

Rasclad man, I grew up in London and I have first hand experience of your so called discrimination. The fact remains, not taking isolated incidents as the norm, the British society is one of the most open in the world. In Britain there is a completely independent judicial system too, where anyone on the wrong end of racial abuse can take recourse to. This is more than we can say about Cyprus, if you know what I mean my BBC friend, or Charlie, if you were to live in this plantation.

[cannedmoose]

I recon there could be a few surprises in this election. Many people are quietly annoyed with labour. I did not appreciate their raid on my pension fund and all the back-door taxes they have raised.

Although we're generally annoyed with Labour, I don't think we're annoyed enough to vote in Michael 'Something of the night about him' Howard. Plus, if you consult Peter Snow's 'Swingometer' at the web link below (something of a British tradition in itself!) you'll see that it'll take a 6.5% swing from Labour voters to the Tories for a hung parliament (in which case I'm sure there would be a deal between Labour and Lib-Dems and a 10.5% swing for the Tories to win a majority. The British system is designed to make revolutionary changes almost impossible, 1997 was an anomoly in that respect, but an anomoly that was clearly coming.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/vote2005 ... labcon.stm

I think the biggest surprise in this election could be turnout, we were down below 60% last time around, if it gets much lower the government's legitimacy to represent will be rightly called into question. Plus, if turnout is low, it will likely be indicative of Labour voter abstentions which could damage their results in some marginal seats still further. I predict that they'll come out with a majority of just over 60 seats, which most past British governments would have sawn off their right arm for.

Another thing to look at for is tactical voting. It worked in Labour's favour in both 1997 and 2001, it'll be interesting to see how it works against them this time, particularly in seats where the battleground is between Labour and Lib-Dem. If it works well, we could see the Lib-Dems with 70-odd seats meaning we have a truly tri-partite system for the first time in 70 years.

I'm looking forward to it, should be a good show (voting Lib-Dem by the way).

[Main_Source]

Bananiot, so what your trying to tell me is that racial dicrimination in Britain are simply isolated incidents? lol

Just the fact that the British National Party held the seat of Tower Hamlets alone, is proof to tell you that you are wrong. There are countless other examples too.

[cannedmoose]

Bananiot, so what your trying to tell me is that racial dicrimination in Britain are simply isolated incidents? lol

Just the fact that the British National Party held the seat of Tower Hamlets alone, is proof to tell you that you are wrong. There are countless other examples too.

If you're claiming that there is some sort of systematic policy of racial discrimination source, you're just plain wrong. The BNP have no large base of support across the country, just in areas where there are particular issues resulting from community differences. The BNP also only wins in some council elections because nobody else bothers to vote on such occasions, so their limited support is massively over-represented in particular seats. Proof of the pudding is that no mainstream party supports racial discrimination and there are methods in place to prevent discrimination in both society and the workplace. Having been to some countries in my time where I was a minority (Jamaica and Nigeria, where I was subjected to constant racial taunts and threats of violence in the street and a place I will never, ever return to), I didn't see such safeguards in place. Therefore, before you claim that Britain is some sort of racist edifice, think again, because compared to many places the UK is a paragon of tolerance and racial harmony.

[brother]

ermmmm...what was you doing in nigeria and jamaica?

[Bananiot]

Thank you cannedmoose, I couldn't have put it better myself!

[cannedmoose]

ermmmm...what was you doing in nigeria and jamaica?

I'd tell you brother, but then I'd have to kill you Seriously, previous job, took me to some lovely places... word of advice, take Nigeria off your holiday list, most hostile and dangerous place I've ever been to (even including my stint in the Gaza Strip!) and that's something I've heard from many others too.

[cannedmoose]

Thank you cannedmoose, I couldn't have put it better myself!

Kanena provlima re... annoys me when people label my country as racist when it's doing a heck of a lot more than most others to combat it.

[mehmet]

Ethnicity is more than just about where you were born. Some of my fellow Cypriots consider themselves British, English. I don't. This is my home but I don't feel I belong here as I have emotional attachments to Cyprus. For my children with an English mother it is a different issue. Ulimately it is personal how you percieve yourself, it's not like I'm trying to say I'm Jamaican just because I love Bob Marley is it?

Back to the elections, all the parties are competing to be tough on immigrants, I take Bananiots point about other societies but right now it's becoming very acceptable to be against immigration into this country. Main source, stop feeling sore about the black/Asian issue. They have put up with more shit than us white skinned second generation immigrants. If you're concerned about your treatment as a Cypriot you need to turn your attention towards the majority community and not other minorities.

[Main_Source]

Im not sore about any Black or Asian issue...im just showing people about modern day political correctness in this country. I never said once in my post that GC have bore the biggest brunt of racism...but to say racism only exists against people of black and asian descent is crap.

...and going back to the elections, well seeing as what Jack Straw has said lately about opening up the stolen ports in N Cyprus and going half way to recognising the 'TRNC', then that laments my position about this government. Infact, look at the last two Labour governments in this country and ask yourself what they both have in common with regards to Cyprus.