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Postby Damsi » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:21 pm

President Putin said that his country opts for the observance of the fundamental principles of international law, which are based on respect of the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of states.

“From this point of view we maintain the same approach towards the Cyprus issue and the problem of Kosovo”, the Russian President stressed, adding that “there is a relevant resolution providing that Serbia is entitled to territorial integrity and we have to respect this. The same applies to Cyprus that must be a united country and we support this state of affairs”.

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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:26 pm

shahmaran wrote:What bullshit you speak Phoenix, by double standards he means that, you cannot agree that Kosovo should be independent while ignoring the TRNC. Because the TRNC has been isolated unjustly for over 30 years and they are willing to let Kosovo off.

THATS what a double standard is, not the version you like to twist and shape so that it fits your bigoted views.


SHah, he's clarified it as the other way round. are you trying hard to twist things or is this natural?

He's saying you can't have double standards by upholding international law with regards to occupied cyprus and then ignoring it by recognising kosovo. Its very simple mate....whats his aim?

ITS TO NOT RECOGNISE KOSOVO!!! Which means he doesn't want northen cyprus recognised either.
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Postby Oracle » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:45 pm

DT. wrote:
shahmaran wrote:What bullshit you speak Phoenix, by double standards he means that, you cannot agree that Kosovo should be independent while ignoring the TRNC. Because the TRNC has been isolated unjustly for over 30 years and they are willing to let Kosovo off.

THATS what a double standard is, not the version you like to twist and shape so that it fits your bigoted views.


SHah, he's clarified it as the other way round. are you trying hard to twist things or is this natural?

He's saying you can't have double standards by upholding international law with regards to occupied cyprus and then ignoring it by recognising kosovo. Its very simple mate....whats his aim?

ITS TO NOT RECOGNISE KOSOVO!!! Which means he doesn't want northen cyprus recognised either.


Shah has fallen into the trap of double-negatives ... :lol:
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Postby Damsi » Fri Feb 15, 2008 10:47 pm

I imagine this is the real reason the West wants Kosovo removed from Serbia, not for their love of Albanians. It would no doubt be a hindrance having to have any accountability to Serbia for what they might want to get up to in Kosovo.

"Making use of the engineering skills of Halliburton subsidiary, Brown & Root Services Corp., the United States built a giant military base, Camp Bondsteel, covering some 955 acres or 360,000 square meters. The camp also includes a prison. According to Alvaro Gil Robles, Human Rights Commissioner for the Council of Europe, who visited the prison in 2005,

"What I saw there, the prisoners' situation, was one which you would absolutely recognize from the photographs of Guantanamo. The prisoners were housed in little wooden huts, some alone, others in pairs or threes. Each hut was surrounded with barbed wire, and guards were patrolling between them. Around all of this was a high wall with watchtowers. Because these people had been arrested directly by the army, they had not had any recourse to the judicial system. They had no lawyers. There was no appeals process. There weren't even exact orders about how long they were to be kept prisoner."

"For the Americans, Kosovo is nothing more than the hinterland of a giant military base, a key presence in the eastern Mediterranean should Greece or Turkey prove unreliable. As for the duly grateful Albanians, they are expected to repay their benefactors by agreeing to be cannon fodder in future imperial wars. For the Europeans, Kosovo is an opportunity to show the world that Europe counts for something and to conduct various pointless social experiments in multiculturalism and multiconfessionalism -- particularly pointless since Kosovo will be one of the most ethnically homogeneous places in Europe."


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Postby Oracle » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:14 pm

Damsi wrote:I imagine this is the real reason the West wants Kosovo removed from Serbia, not for their love of Albanians. It would no doubt be a hindrance having to have any accountability to Serbia for what they might want to get up to in Kosovo.

"Making use of the engineering skills of Halliburton subsidiary, Brown & Root Services Corp., the United States built a giant military base, Camp Bondsteel, covering some 955 acres or 360,000 square meters. The camp also includes a prison. According to Alvaro Gil Robles, Human Rights Commissioner for the Council of Europe, who visited the prison in 2005,

"What I saw there, the prisoners' situation, was one which you would absolutely recognize from the photographs of Guantanamo. The prisoners were housed in little wooden huts, some alone, others in pairs or threes. Each hut was surrounded with barbed wire, and guards were patrolling between them. Around all of this was a high wall with watchtowers. Because these people had been arrested directly by the army, they had not had any recourse to the judicial system. They had no lawyers. There was no appeals process. There weren't even exact orders about how long they were to be kept prisoner."

"For the Americans, Kosovo is nothing more than the hinterland of a giant military base, a key presence in the eastern Mediterranean should Greece or Turkey prove unreliable. As for the duly grateful Albanians, they are expected to repay their benefactors by agreeing to be cannon fodder in future imperial wars. For the Europeans, Kosovo is an opportunity to show the world that Europe counts for something and to conduct various pointless social experiments in multiculturalism and multiconfessionalism -- particularly pointless since Kosovo will be one of the most ethnically homogeneous places in Europe."


http://www.counterpunch.org/szamuely02152008.html


A good article demonstrating the futility of these divisions.

The EU / Europe should continue in its efforts to embrace all the countries of Europe towards one united republic ... with as little influence from those that put their Muslim faith first or the divisive interventionist, imperialist self-serving interests of the USA.

This is where the Turk-TCs have to wake up and realize they are not only puppets of Turkey but also of USA.
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Postby zan » Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:44 pm

Oracle wrote:
DT. wrote:
shahmaran wrote:What bullshit you speak Phoenix, by double standards he means that, you cannot agree that Kosovo should be independent while ignoring the TRNC. Because the TRNC has been isolated unjustly for over 30 years and they are willing to let Kosovo off.

THATS what a double standard is, not the version you like to twist and shape so that it fits your bigoted views.


SHah, he's clarified it as the other way round. are you trying hard to twist things or is this natural?

He's saying you can't have double standards by upholding international law with regards to occupied cyprus and then ignoring it by recognising kosovo. Its very simple mate....whats his aim?

ITS TO NOT RECOGNISE KOSOVO!!! Which means he doesn't want northen cyprus recognised either.


Shah has fallen into the trap of double-negatives ... :lol:


That would be you and DT then.... 8) :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Expatkiwi » Sat Feb 16, 2008 12:59 am

Yeah, yeah, Oracle. It's always the USA's fault isn't it? Still, it cannot be denied that Putin said "for 40 years northern Cyprus has practically had independence". THAT speaks volumes.
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