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[observer]

I can assure Turk-by-Proxy, it is not for the love of the European people that Turkey wants to join the EU ....

Mammon and Expansionism are their driving forces.

Hence misanthropic is a label that best befits the Turks.

Misanthropy is the state of hating other people (all other people, not people selected by nationality or race) and wanting to be alone.

It doesn't really matter what you believe Turkey's motives to be, the very fact that they wish to join other people means that they can not be misanthropic.

As an aside, were the RoC's motives (or any other country's motives) in wishing to join the EU poverty and minimalism?

[tessintrnc]

I can assure Turk-by-Proxy, it is not for the love of the European people that Turkey wants to join the EU ....

Mammon and Expansionism are their driving forces.

Hence misanthropic is a label that best befits the Turks.

Misanthropy is the state of hating other people (all other people, not people selected by nationality or race) and wanting to be alone.

It doesn't really matter what you believe Turkey's motives to be, the very fact that they wish to join other people means that they can not be misanthropic.

As an aside, were the RoC's motives (or any other country's motives) in wishing to join the EU poverty and minimalism?

Thats exactly the point I was trying to make to Oracle - perhaps she should really read her dictionary before using such "big" words !!!!

[Viewpoint]

Putin: Russia supports Cyprus’ integrity



15/02/2008


Russia maintains its position in favour of Cyprus’ and Serbia’s territorial integrity, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated today during a press conference in the Kremlin.

“Are you not ashamed in Europe of the double standards you are applying to settle such problems?” Putin asked the leaders of European states.

His comments came in response to press questions, as it is widely expected that the US and many EU countries plan to recognise an independent Kosovo, which is set to announce a unilateral declaration of independence on Sunday or Monday.

Asked whether there is a contradiction between Russia’s support to UN Security Council resolutions and his statement, President Putin said that his country opts for the observance of the fundamental principles of international law, which are based on respect of the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of states.

“From this point of view we maintain the same approach towards the Cyprus issue and the problem of Kosovo”, Russian President stressed, adding that “there is a relevant resolution providing that Serbia is entitled to territorial integrity and we have respect this. The same applies to Cyprus that must be a united country and we support this state of affairs”.

Putin argued that there is no contradiction, noting that “a contradiction would emerge if in one part of Europe we form relations based on certain rules and in another part we base them on completely different rules to serve the interests of a country or of a group of countries.”

In such a case, this would lead to chaos and it would be scary, Putin concluded.

Cyprus has been divided since the 1974 Turkish invasion. The Turkish Cypriot self-styled regime in occupied Cyprus is recognised only by Turkey and the UN have called on all states not to recognise it, describing it “legally invalid.”

http://www.financialmirror.com/more_new ... t=Politics

what was it that VP said? Oh Yeah....Go Go Putin!

So to avoid double standards why dont the EU recognize the TRNC at the same time as Kosovo kill 2 birds with one stone, something is a brewing and I get the feeling the GCs are not gonna like it.

[DT.]

Putin: Russia supports Cyprus’ integrity



15/02/2008


Russia maintains its position in favour of Cyprus’ and Serbia’s territorial integrity, Russian President Vladimir Putin stated today during a press conference in the Kremlin.

“Are you not ashamed in Europe of the double standards you are applying to settle such problems?” Putin asked the leaders of European states.

His comments came in response to press questions, as it is widely expected that the US and many EU countries plan to recognise an independent Kosovo, which is set to announce a unilateral declaration of independence on Sunday or Monday.

Asked whether there is a contradiction between Russia’s support to UN Security Council resolutions and his statement, President Putin said that his country opts for the observance of the fundamental principles of international law, which are based on respect of the sovereignty and the territorial integrity of states.

“From this point of view we maintain the same approach towards the Cyprus issue and the problem of Kosovo”, Russian President stressed, adding that “there is a relevant resolution providing that Serbia is entitled to territorial integrity and we have respect this. The same applies to Cyprus that must be a united country and we support this state of affairs”.

Putin argued that there is no contradiction, noting that “a contradiction would emerge if in one part of Europe we form relations based on certain rules and in another part we base them on completely different rules to serve the interests of a country or of a group of countries.”

In such a case, this would lead to chaos and it would be scary, Putin concluded.

Cyprus has been divided since the 1974 Turkish invasion. The Turkish Cypriot self-styled regime in occupied Cyprus is recognised only by Turkey and the UN have called on all states not to recognise it, describing it “legally invalid.”

http://www.financialmirror.com/more_new ... t=Politics

what was it that VP said? Oh Yeah....Go Go Putin!

So to avoid double standards why dont the EU recognize the TRNC at the same time as Kosovo kill 2 birds with one stone, something is a brewing and I get the feeling the GCs are not gonna like it.

Thats got as much chance as the EU recognising the Basque region as an indepedant nation. Member states of the EU do not have a tendency to halve the territory of their fellow members.

SOmething is definitely brewing, but you'll be the last to know since EU decisions are carried out by its members states and Turkey is not a member as far as I know.

We'll keep you informed, don't worry.

[Nikitas]

If they recognise the TRNC simultaneously with Kossovo, will the GC property owners get the same rights as the Serb minority in Kossovo? Full property restitution, protection of monuments and patrimony etc? Sounds tempting! Definitely much better than the Annan plan!

[observer]

I can assure Turk-by-Proxy, it is not for the love of the European people that Turkey wants to join the EU ....

Mammon and Expansionism are their driving forces.

Hence misanthropic is a label that best befits the Turks.

Misanthropy is the state of hating other people (all other people, not people selected by nationality or race) and wanting to be alone.

It doesn't really matter what you believe Turkey's motives to be, the very fact that they wish to join other people means that they can not be misanthropic.

As an aside, were the RoC's motives (or any other country's motives) in wishing to join the EU poverty and minimalism?

Thats exactly the point I was trying to make to Oracle - perhaps she should really read her dictionary before using such "big" words !!!!

... starting with xenophobia

[denizaksulu]

If they recognise the TRNC simultaneously with Kossovo, will the GC property owners get the same rights as the Serb minority in Kossovo? Full property restitution, protection of monuments and patrimony etc? Sounds tempting! Definitely much better than the Annan plan!

Whatever the solution, nobody should lose their land rights. If not possible all should be compensated.

[Ceyhun86]

the only reason cyprus is like this is because you decided to fuck us up in 1963 -1974... you made us live hollocaust and genocide over 15 000 turkish cypriots.. and you guys deny this.
remember grivas ?? eoka b??

how they buried our people alive...beat my uncle to death .... buried his family.. took my father to prison and beat the shit out of him.

but i stil dont have any hatred in me. you need to move on from the past

[Ceyhun86]

if turkey didnt come you would have killed us all....
man you forget those days so easily dont you

[Oracle]

I can assure Turk-by-Proxy, it is not for the love of the European people that Turkey wants to join the EU ....

Mammon and Expansionism are their driving forces.

Hence misanthropic is a label that best befits the Turks.

Misanthropy is the state of hating other people (all other people, not people selected by nationality or race) and wanting to be alone.

It doesn't really matter what you believe Turkey's motives to be, the very fact that they wish to join other people means that they can not be misanthropic.
As an aside, were the RoC's motives (or any other country's motives) in wishing to join the EU poverty and minimalism?

A fox may love chickens ... does it not matter his motives for wanting to be let into the hen-house?

As for Cyprus, I do believe (aside from the fact that they are like-minded politically with the rest of Europe) any motive may have been hastened into action because of the constant threat (and continuing occupation) by Turkey.