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[kurupetos]

...food for thought.

Dunno, seems expired.

[Mustiejodu]

Let's get the terminology correct here .the ottomans had already invaded cyprus and assimilated its culture and changed names in the areas they settled for example in larnaca you will see names like Mustafa pasha road . You can't invade a country that you already invaded . I will fully accept and will not argue with anyone saying the ottomans invaded cyprus but don't try to twist the truth.

[Sotos]

You can't invade a country that you already invaded

Sure you can. Happened lots of times with countries that would invade each other for centuries.

[Nikitas]

"Tried to make it part of Greece" is an argument that holds no water after 1974. Many GCs died resisting the Greek inspired coup. Post 1974 Enosis vanished. There is NO political entity, in Cyprus or Greece that would mention it even as a slogan.

Now it is the TCs turn to prove they can throw off the Turkish yoke. We are all waiting to see that happen. Not likely though and the eternal excuse is akin to that old communist excuse: we do not yet have true socialism because of the external threat of capitalism. So we wait.

In the meantime the two regions are diverging. The south becomes more western and European by the day while the north plants minarets and gets closer to islam. Which is OK if that is what the TCs want. Who would ever have thought that the old scare of Enosis would happen to the people who feared it most, along with Taksim. Two for the price of one as they say in super markets. Well now you got it, what are you going to do with it?

[Maximus]

Now it is the TCs turn to prove they can throw off the Turkish yoke. We are all waiting to see that happen. Not likely though and the eternal excuse is akin to that old communist excuse: we do not yet have true socialism because of the external threat of capitalism. So we wait.

We have seen that about 0.2% of all TC's in the occupied areas give a damn about the EU Republic of Cyprus. They turned up to vote this past sunday but probably for their own TC candidates. The rest, about 99.8% are happy to continue living under the "Turkish yoke" in the "TRNC".

[repulsewarrior]

Muzzy, I must admit I agree with most of what you wrote in your last post. There is just one thing. The Turkish Cypriot nationalists were quick to exploit the craving for enosis of the Greek Cypriots. I think the actions of the Greek Cypriots were such that forced even the most progressive Turkish Cypriots to seek the warmth and secure embrace of those that offered them protection, ie TMT who had one aim only, to partition Cyprus. I believe that we gave them the means to strive for their cause with our ridiculous attempt to go back on our signature and worse, the murdering of innocent Turkish Cypriots whom we saw as our perpetual enemy. Had we behaved in a more responsible manner there is no way we would end up in this predicament. Sadly, the Greek Cypriot side shoulders most of the blame.

What a Class A dodderer. Deplorable male menopausal sentimental claptrap twaddle.

Embarrassing if not downright outdated useless junk. Flagrant hobnobbing.

Bananiot can you offer anything in the way of logic

Can I add my pennies worth to this discussion please?
The question I put to my father was " How did so many people stand by and allow TMT to kill innocent Greeks?" and his answer was "we didn't know what they were doing, even if we did, we couldn’t' have done anything because they were armed and were very good at silencing descent".

Ask the Palestinians the same question. Can they stop Hammas firing rockets. Can they hell. Yet israel thinks they can and punishes them for not doing it. Repeated over and over again. Always blame the victim? why?

Well said.

...I second that.

...it would not be a good idea to judge from this result the Cypriot resolve of Turcophones who are living their lives under occupation, are supporters of the "fait accompli". Lordo said it all, in another post, Cyprus comes first, after family, and his hometown. if anything, this small percentage indicates that there are a body of Turkish Cypriots who can see a value in placing Cyprus somewhere as a higher priority; you can't criticize people for placing family first.

...likely, they stayed home because, to them, they have no power, they don't want to get involved, it is enough that there is no more bloodshed, why demonstrate a hope or an interest, why vote? the snafu of a Registrar of Elections who did not publish the Register early enough to see that it is corrected, is icing on the cake, even if as he claims, he followed the letter of the law, its spirit was ignored, or, from government we expect incompetence/corruption, and these feelings they have were reinforced.

...this EU election, in Cyprus, is a bloody election for Democracy, but like learning to ride a horse, one gets back on, after falling off. obviously, the intent was to give more voters a chance to vote, I suggest that there is a first time for everything, practice makes perfect, and that in the next elections, at least, the same mistakes will not be repeated. my hope is that the polling stations are situated even closer to voters in the north, (like in the south), where in them the Cypriot Flag flies (no others are allowed).

[repulsewarrior]

...also a thread worth rereading; cheers.