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44th ANNIVERSARY OF LIMASSOL RESISTANCE !!!

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby kafenes » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:08 pm

Eric dayi wrote:
kafenes wrote:For someone who wants to forget the past and look forward to the future, you are doing just fine! :)


Holding a remembrance day and giving the murdering terrorist scums of the EOKA is I suppose your way of "forgetting the past and looking to the future" is it?

You are a joke mate. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


If we held memorials for all the braves who gave their lives fighting for the freedom of this country from the ottomans, turks and the british, we would be doing nothing else all day. :roll:
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Postby christos1 » Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:09 pm

T_C wrote:"Let see, the Turks move North cause they seek there own part of Island"

:shock:

Another idiot...you have no idea...


I know more than you think

"When the armed struggle started, the British had at their disposal thousands of men and could even increase their existing numbers to put down the EOKA struggle. This they did not do, but they formed instead the well known Auxiliary
Corps. The ordinary Turkish Cypriots, who did not realize where the British were leading them (since their leadership did not warn them, rather it encouraged them), hastened to reinforce this Auxiliary Corps thinking only of securing
a living. Thus, the Greek Cypriots, who thought that they were waging a holy struggle against the British, found themselves facing the Turkish Cypriots. In this way
the British started submitting to the Turkish community their plans for partition."
Ibrahim Aziz, "The Historical Course of the Turkish Cypriot Community", 1981
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Postby zan » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:40 am

christos1 wrote:
T_C wrote:"Let see, the Turks move North cause they seek there own part of Island"

:shock:

Another idiot...you have no idea...


I know more than you think

"When the armed struggle started, the British had at their disposal thousands of men and could even increase their existing numbers to put down the EOKA struggle. This they did not do, but they formed instead the well known Auxiliary
Corps. The ordinary Turkish Cypriots, who did not realize where the British were leading them (since their leadership did not warn them, rather it encouraged them), hastened to reinforce this Auxiliary Corps thinking only of securing
a living. Thus, the Greek Cypriots, who thought that they were waging a holy struggle against the British, found themselves facing the Turkish Cypriots. In this way
the British started submitting to the Turkish community their plans for partition."
Ibrahim Aziz, "The Historical Course of the Turkish Cypriot Community", 1981


christos
I say a big welcome to the forum to you because with every new GC poster here we can see how far we have got in two years.......And.....how, still you guys are coming out of he wood work with the same teachings that the "RoC" can offer.....
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Postby miltiades » Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:54 am

zan wrote:
christos1 wrote:
T_C wrote:"Let see, the Turks move North cause they seek there own part of Island"

:shock:

Another idiot...you have no idea...


I know more than you think

"When the armed struggle started, the British had at their disposal thousands of men and could even increase their existing numbers to put down the EOKA struggle. This they did not do, but they formed instead the well known Auxiliary
Corps. The ordinary Turkish Cypriots, who did not realize where the British were leading them (since their leadership did not warn them, rather it encouraged them), hastened to reinforce this Auxiliary Corps thinking only of securing
a living. Thus, the Greek Cypriots, who thought that they were waging a holy struggle against the British, found themselves facing the Turkish Cypriots. In this way
the British started submitting to the Turkish community their plans for partition."
Ibrahim Aziz, "The Historical Course of the Turkish Cypriot Community", 1981


christos
I say a big welcome to the forum to you because with every new GC poster here we can see how far we have got in two years.......And.....how, still you guys are coming out of he wood work with the same teachings that the "RoC" can offer.....

Zan , I was around , and the Brits did use the T/Cs against the G/Cs . The T/Cs joined the auxiliary police for one reason only. A way to earn a living , not out of hatred for their compatriots but out of necessity , to survive egged on by the manipulative forces that pretended to be their allies. The rot started from then on . I witnessed with my own eyes events then and remember well.
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Postby Natty » Thu Feb 14, 2008 1:15 am

What did EOKA have to do with the fighting in 1963? EOKA was finished and disbanded by late 1959.How many were honored at this ceremony? We did not see a number.


Exactly, and yet EOKA is nearly always mentioned as taking part in the attacks of the 60's, something which baffles me… :?
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Postby umit07 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:40 am

Natty wrote:
What did EOKA have to do with the fighting in 1963? EOKA was finished and disbanded by late 1959.How many were honored at this ceremony? We did not see a number.


Exactly, and yet EOKA is nearly always mentioned as taking part in the attacks of the 60's, something which baffles me… :?


Then who were the armed forces attacking TC's in the GC's struggle for ENOSIS? Please explain!
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Postby umit07 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:46 am

It's true miltiades that the Brit's used TC's and that TC's joined the aux. force ( mainly comprised of shepherds ) to the income rather than joining TC's fight. But surely miltiades you don't think TC's would have just sitted tight and accepted thier fate of ENOSIS we fought back! It's that plain and simple. Being honest if I was alive in 63 I would have done the same under the circumstances.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:11 am

"Then who were the armed forces attacking TC's in the GC's struggle for ENOSIS? Please explain!"

Umit, after the TC attacks on GCs in 1957 and 1958 EOKA warned that it would retaliate to defend GCs. The problem for EOKA was that it was a small guerilla force and was not organized or equipped to carry out large scale urban fighting, as the TCs could do with the tolerance of the British. I have lived this development in Nicosia so I have first hand experience.

There were retaliations by EOKA against TMT in the 50s but small scale.

In 1959 EOKA was disbanded. The people who took part in the 1963 clashes had little to do with the original EOKA. They had been organizing for the clash and recruiting people well after 1960. The presence of Sampson (and some guys wearing berets with EOKA embroidered on them), in the fore of this group does not identify it with the original EOKA, in fact the opposite is more likely because he was not the kind of man who could inspire the rank and file of the original EOKA.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:23 am

miltiades wrote:
zan wrote:
christos1 wrote:
T_C wrote:"Let see, the Turks move North cause they seek there own part of Island"

:shock:

Another idiot...you have no idea...


I know more than you think

"When the armed struggle started, the British had at their disposal thousands of men and could even increase their existing numbers to put down the EOKA struggle. This they did not do, but they formed instead the well known Auxiliary
Corps. The ordinary Turkish Cypriots, who did not realize where the British were leading them (since their leadership did not warn them, rather it encouraged them), hastened to reinforce this Auxiliary Corps thinking only of securing
a living. Thus, the Greek Cypriots, who thought that they were waging a holy struggle against the British, found themselves facing the Turkish Cypriots. In this way
the British started submitting to the Turkish community their plans for partition."
Ibrahim Aziz, "The Historical Course of the Turkish Cypriot Community", 1981


christos
I say a big welcome to the forum to you because with every new GC poster here we can see how far we have got in two years.......And.....how, still you guys are coming out of he wood work with the same teachings that the "RoC" can offer.....

Zan , I was around , and the Brits did use the T/Cs against the G/Cs . The T/Cs joined the auxiliary police for one reason only. A way to earn a living , not out of hatred for their compatriots but out of necessity , to survive egged on by the manipulative forces that pretended to be their allies. The rot started from then on . I witnessed with my own eyes events then and remember well.


Why did the TCs need to join the auxiliary police? to make a living is right and why were they hard pressed to survive again due to the policies of the GCs that would discriminate against TCs and not allow them to prosper, GCs even today do not understand that the isolation makes people develop in ways that can be counter productive towards reconciliation and finding a solution, you guys are cutting of your nose despite your face.
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Postby umit07 » Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:26 am

What are you trying to say Nikitas, you acknowledge that there was an armed foreces but say it wasn't EOKA.

EOKA A, EOKA B .... EOKA Z, EOKA Reloaded, EOKA return of the rings

It's still an armed forces with the same sole ideology. Whether cleaning the island of british or turkish.
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