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[Expatkiwi]

That last time I read a flag book, the flag of the TRNC does not match with any other national flag. It's closest vexillological brother is the Red Crescent Organization.

You are going way over the head of the racist Greeks/GCs in this forum Dean, they don't understand what you are saying because their hate for anything Turkish/Islam does not allow them to understand.

BTW, can you tell us if the "Cypriot fag" matches with that of Greece which the GCs love to fly all over the place in Greek South Cyprus?

Is there a book for national anthems to help us understand why the GCs who call themselves "Cypriots" don't have their own national anthem but sing that of Greece?

Actually Eric, I do have a book on National Anthems. Indeed, the Greek National Anthem is used for Cyprus, but there is an addendum that states "In the northern third of the island, the Turkish National Anthem is used - See Turkey".

Also, I know that in South Cyprus, the Greek National Flag flies side by side with the RoCy flag and the EU flag, but that in TRNC, the TRNC flag flies alongside the Turkish Flag. It is interesting to note that the flag books I have state that the NATIONAL flag of TRNC is that of Turkey while the TRNC flag is regarded as the STATE flag.

While I think that the Southern Cypriots using the Greek National Anthem and displaying the Greek flag prominently lends credence to the ENOSIS philosophy, they can just as ligitimately say the the north's use of the Turkish Flag with the Turkish National Anthem states that the TAKSIM philosophy is alive and well.

Personally, I really like both the Greek and Turkish National Anthems. They are both fine pieces. But if Cyprus is to maintain its stated stance of independence (both RoCy and TRNC), they both need to (a) remove a lot of Greek and Turkish flags and (b) come up with unique anthems.

[Nick Nicola]

Here we go, another forum where the Greeks and GCs prove their racism and hate for anything Turkish.

Lemme see now:

The Greeks go to any country in the world and keep their culture and language and religion.

But because of the GCs and Greeks hate and they want us Turks and TCs to forget our religion, culture and language.

The same f**king thing as they want in Cyprus.

Erdigan said "Integrate but do not forget who you are and where you came from", this is only seen "bad" by the Turk hating Greeks/GCs. The Germans who do not want Turkey in the EU for their own political reasons, are only using what he said as an excuse.

Thank God the island is partitioned and we do not have to live under Greek rule or we would be forced to forget our Turkishness and become Greeks.

Stick your reunification up where the sun don't shine, side f**king ways.

Exactly, I agree with you.Here in our TRNC there are English schools set up for the children of English speaking residents - whats wrong with that? Wherever people live in the world why should they not be proud of, and remember where they originate from?
Tess

Tess,

The Greeks and GCs have their own Churches, community centres, shops and every thing else here in the UK and most of them hate the British people with a vengeance supposedly because of what the Brits did in Cyprus. They hate anything Turkish and would love to see the Turks just disappear from the face of the earth. The racist idiots do not want to give us TCs/Turks the same rights as the Greeks/GCs want for themselves.

These people on here are idiots who use any old excuse to show their hate and racism.

A perspective from the uk-
1 I do not hate the British but the establishment which has let us down many times.
2 I do not hate Turks but the succesive administations which have kept their army in Cyprus.
3.Turks also have their own Mosques, community centres, shops and everything else here in the uk. I have yet to conduct a poll to see if most of the turks hate the British people with a vengence or if most them would love to see the Greeks disappear from the face of the earth.

[shahmaran]

Thracian Turks increased from 80 000 to over 150 000 and elect two members of parliament and most of the local councils in their area.

By contrast the Greeks of Istanbul, Imvros and Tenedos are reduced to less than 2000.

You are ill informed about schools and churches. The syllabus in Greeks schools in Turkey must be taught in Turkish. The teaching of Greek is allowed only as a foreign language. The religious institutions cannot repair their buildings, which has led to the delapidation and closure of most schools and churches. The Halki theological school has been closed since 1971 and Erdogan assures everyone, including the USA, that his government is "seriously studying" the possibility of its reopening.

Considering that the orthodox patriarch must be a graduate of that particular school one can see where the situation is leading.

So lay off the pretty stuff and tell the truth. We have all had enough of cynicism.

What the EU needs to do is apply the principle of mutuality and treat Turks the same way they treat minorities, with the same laws and tactics and see how they like the prohibition of repair on religious and community buildings, increased taxation and special inheritance rules, and the list goes on and on.

There has been a few posts here before with articles about the rights of the Thracian Turks, specially about how they are not allowed to elect their own Mufti, i am not making it up. I had posted a selection of articles on the matter before and i seriously cannot be bothered to go find it now.

I cannot be ill informed about the schools since i have been to one myself and like i said i have many friends who graduated from the others, they can teach in their own language but they also have to have Turkish and Turkish history within their syllabus, and even that is not compulsory within private schools. So i suggest you check your sources Nikitas.

[alexISS]

There has been a few posts here before with articles about the rights of the Thracian Turks, specially about how they are not allowed to elect their own Mufti, i am not making it up. I had posted a selection of articles on the matter before and i seriously cannot be bothered to go find it now.

There we go again... the muftis cannot be elected by the people, they have judicial authority and must therefore be appointed by the government... as in Turkey! Why don't you comment on the numbers posted by Nikitas, why is the Greek minority of Turkey vanished while the Turks of Thrace increase their numbers?

[Oracle]

There has been a few posts here before with articles about the rights of the Thracian Turks, specially about how they are not allowed to elect their own Mufti, i am not making it up. I had posted a selection of articles on the matter before and i seriously cannot be bothered to go find it now.

There we go again... the muftis cannot be elected by the people, they have judicial authority and must therefore be appointed by the government... as in Turkey! Why don't you comment on the numbers posted by Nikitas, why is the Greek minority of Turkey vanished while the Turks of Thrace increase their numbers?

Because Turkey has an expansionist policy which precludes the presence of any other Nations, but their own ....

[christos1]

There has been a few posts here before with articles about the rights of the Thracian Turks, specially about how they are not allowed to elect their own Mufti, i am not making it up. I had posted a selection of articles on the matter before and i seriously cannot be bothered to go find it now.

There we go again... the muftis cannot be elected by the people, they have judicial authority and must therefore be appointed by the government... as in Turkey! Why don't you comment on the numbers posted by Nikitas, why is the Greek minority of Turkey vanished while the Turks of Thrace increase their numbers?

Because Turkey has an expansionist policy which precludes the presence of any other Nations, but their own ....

Finally, there is some sense in this forum. Not only were the Cypriot bombarded by Turkish jets and napalmed in the 1960s but the TMT terrorist group were attacking Turkish Cypriots as well as Greek Cypriots.
These fanatic Turks are now playing the victim. The Turkish invasion was preplanned, take a look at this BBC report.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=WxPpNqfXtj0[/youtube]

[alexISS]

There has been a few posts here before with articles about the rights of the Thracian Turks, specially about how they are not allowed to elect their own Mufti, i am not making it up. I had posted a selection of articles on the matter before and i seriously cannot be bothered to go find it now.

There we go again... the muftis cannot be elected by the people, they have judicial authority and must therefore be appointed by the government... as in Turkey! Why don't you comment on the numbers posted by Nikitas, why is the Greek minority of Turkey vanished while the Turks of Thrace increase their numbers?

Because Turkey has an expansionist policy which precludes the presence of any other Nations, but their own ....

I know, I was asking just to read Shahmaran's excuse

[Oracle]

There has been a few posts here before with articles about the rights of the Thracian Turks, specially about how they are not allowed to elect their own Mufti, i am not making it up. I had posted a selection of articles on the matter before and i seriously cannot be bothered to go find it now.

There we go again... the muftis cannot be elected by the people, they have judicial authority and must therefore be appointed by the government... as in Turkey! Why don't you comment on the numbers posted by Nikitas, why is the Greek minority of Turkey vanished while the Turks of Thrace increase their numbers?

Because Turkey has an expansionist policy which precludes the presence of any other Nations, but their own ....

I know, I was asking just to read Shahmaran's excuse

I predict it will be lame ...

[Oracle]

There has been a few posts here before with articles about the rights of the Thracian Turks, specially about how they are not allowed to elect their own Mufti, i am not making it up. I had posted a selection of articles on the matter before and i seriously cannot be bothered to go find it now.

There we go again... the muftis cannot be elected by the people, they have judicial authority and must therefore be appointed by the government... as in Turkey! Why don't you comment on the numbers posted by Nikitas, why is the Greek minority of Turkey vanished while the Turks of Thrace increase their numbers?

Because Turkey has an expansionist policy which precludes the presence of any other Nations, but their own ....

Finally, there is some sense in this forum. Not only were the Cypriot bombarded by Turkish jets and napalmed in the 1960s but the TMT terrorist group were attacking Turkish Cypriots as well as Greek Cypriots.
These fanatic Turks are now playing the victim. The Turkish invasion was preplanned, take a look at this BBC report.

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=WxPpNqfXtj0[/youtube]

Christos ... Good post ... a sad reminder of the evil that landed on our island

.... and what has still to go back to where it came from ... Hell!

[GreekForumer]

We as "Cypriots" back in 1960 had our independence and rights to self rule but the greed for more turned the majority of Greeks and GCs into murdering scums and now you are whinging, whining and crying buckets full.

Eric,
for the sake of arguement let's say 2000 TCs were murdered.

How many male GCs of fighting age in Cyprus during the troubles ? 200,000 perhaps ?

So 200,000 GCs murdered 2000 TCs.

That means 1% of GCs were murderers. And that's assuming these GCs only murdered one TC each. Hardly a majority.

Now the number of murdered TCs is less than 2000.
Some of those TCs died in "action".
Some of those TCs died by accident or negligence.
Some of those TCs were murdered by TMT and for other private reasons.

Perhaps you can recalculate and come up with a more correct figure.