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[MR-from-NG]

.... You should pay the GC's for the land they have lost and give us back the land you prepared to give us and then we can both go our seperate ways....

I don't recall Cyprus being put up for sale .....

George, are you an Estate Agent?

That's the spirit George. At least he can see the bigger picture. He is not in some wonderland with his head stuck up his own backside.

It is the likes of George that will finally bring peace and tranquility back to my beautiful island. Respect George.

Your mutual respect for mammon is sad to behold; because those that are of the opinion money will do everything, may well be suspected of doing everything for money.

The beautiful island will only be spoilt by the likes of such as yourselves.

You seem to have some kind of problem with money. I wonder if its the abundance of money or lack of it with you.

I really don't understand how the likes of me can spoil a country that is already in ruins. The financially strong can only make positive contributions, and George has the right idea. Furthermore I put my life on it that the final settlement will only be achieved with tons and tons of dollars. Aaaaah money, there is nothing it cannot buy

Aaaaah money, there is nothing it cannot buy

INTEGRITY and HONESTY


You of all people should know that MR-from-NG.

Perhaps you just don't have as much money as you thought you had.

Never claimed to have much money. I have said in the past that I'm materialistic but that doesn't mean I have money. As for my integrity and honesty, well you don't know me at all so your opinions don't really count for much, do they?

[GeorgeV97qaue]

MR-from-NG dont rise to it. Lets try and have a discussion with out abusing each other.

[MR-from-NG]

MR-from-NG dont rise to it. Lets try and have a discussion with out abusing each other.

With you 100% George. I say it from the heart, it is the Georges of Cyprus that will enable us to live side by side in peace and harmony.

[Kikapu]

Aaaaah money, there is nothing it cannot buy

INTEGRITY and HONESTY


You of all people should know that MR-from-NG.

Perhaps you just don't have as much money as you thought you had.

Never claimed to have much money. I have said in the past that I'm materialistic but that doesn't mean I have money. As for my integrity and honesty, well you don't know me at all so your opinions don't really count for much, do they?

Never claimed to have much money. I have said in the past that I'm materialistic but that doesn't mean I have money

NO.?? I must have mistaken you with mrfromng, MR-from-NG, who claims to have enough money to buy out a forum members and their family with the small change that he has in his pocket, or telling us who has enough money to see his grand children's future in comfort and his houses in Spain, Cyprus and the UK. Personally, I'm happy for you MR-from-NG...I mean it.

So, did I get the wrong mrfromng, MR-from-NG. ???

As for my integrity and honesty, well you don't know me at all so your opinions don't really count for much, do they

You are correct, that I do not know you personally to make such judgements, but if I was to go by what you write on the forum, man, that would speak volumes about what you are lacking.

Perhaps I should not read too much into what you write in the future, and see if I will have another opinion of you, or you can write with some Integrity and Honesty to save me the time. I hope you will do the latter.

[Viewpoint]

Viewpoint,

Spot on their as you stated neither side is willing to compromise on any of the issues so what you are proposing sounds good GC's/TC's that want to return should be allowed those that dont should be compensated. In the North by Turkey in the south by the rebublic of cyprus. Their is no point trying to force a solution on both sets of people.

No matter what assurances are given by both side people will always look to the past. I really dont want partition but it cant carry on as it is.

When the North does finally join Europe the country will be unified under the EU banner anyway.

I agree 100% we do not have the will or the need to unite, compensation is a must for all those that do not want to return yet get a fair deal on what they left behind. The only problem is the GCs do not want us to have any part of the island for ourselves they want to force their numerical advantage and take control of the whole island, they do not see us as equals but only as a minority who should be put in their place.

[Nikitas]

If you owned land you are compensated. Sounds reasonable. What about those who do not own land in the north but grew up there. What compensation do you give them for the loss of their patrimony and place of belonging?

And what makes you realists think that once partition is consensual Turkey will leave the south alone? Who are the dreamers around here! When have you ever heard any mainland Turkish officials state that they desire partition? They talk about separate peoples, different religions etc, but they never ever talk about partition.

The attitude of Turkey in the case of the oil exploration rights in the south coast of Cyprus is the key. Turkey wants the TCs separated in the north and then wants to have a hand in EVERYTHING that happens everywhere in Cyprus.

Wake up dreamers! You are not going to find peace by selling your land or your ass to Turkey.

[Viewpoint]

If you owned land you are compensated. Sounds reasonable. What about those who do not own land in the north but grew up there. What compensation do you give them for the loss of their patrimony and place of belonging?

And what makes you realists think that once partition is consensual Turkey will leave the south alone? Who are the dreamers around here! When have you ever heard any mainland Turkish officials state that they desire partition? They talk about separate peoples, different religions etc, but they never ever talk about partition.

The attitude of Turkey in the case of the oil exploration rights in the south coast of Cyprus is the key. Turkey wants the TCs separated in the north and then wants to have a hand in EVERYTHING that happens everywhere in Cyprus.

Wake up dreamers! You are not going to find peace by selling your land or your ass to Turkey.

Those who believe they belong in the north and do not object to living under TC administration can move north, they are free to choose just like all the people of Cyprus.

We TCs are the ones who cannot see no light at the end of the tunnel with GCs and negotiating a united Cyprus so division is the only real viable and lating solution that if GCs were to consider and show even th slightest logic in wanting to solve this problem the TCs would jump at the opportunity and concede to returning more land and compromise on other issues sensative to GCs.

[GeorgeV97qaue]

Nikitas,

It's not ideal what I'm proposing but it's the only realistic option. As for Turkey well I do believe they will leave us alone. Sine the invasion they havent tried anything. Dont forget we are now part of the EU so they will have to deal with our EU allies if they do try to harm our nation in any way.

With regards to GC's that dont own land in North Cyprus their is nothing stopping them from living in the North under TC control that should be one of the pre conditions to partition. Evenually the North would join the EU so movement between the two states will be made easier.

At the end of the day I fed up with seeing the same old posts from TC's & GC's lets be realistic.

[umit07]

GeorgeV97qaue , where have you been for all this time? You are the first GC on this forum to have faced reality!
I believe that under the current circumstances UNITY is imposible. The entire strategy of GC's at the moment is based on using the EU to bully Turkey, ( I for one do not believe Turkey will ever be able to join as a full member ). Up to this point it doesn't look like it is working. I think the day Turkey understands that the EU is not serious about letting them in, that will be the day GC's finally wake up.

[DT.]

Nikitas,

It's not ideal what I'm proposing but it's the only realistic option. As for Turkey well I do believe they will leave us alone. Sine the invasion they havent tried anything. Dont forget we are now part of the EU so they will have to deal with our EU allies if they do try to harm our nation in any way.

With regards to GC's that dont own land in North Cyprus their is nothing stopping them from living in the North under TC control that should be one of the pre conditions to partition. Evenually the North would join the EU so movement between the two states will be made easier.

At the end of the day I fed up with seeing the same old posts from TC's & GC's lets be realistic.

Are you going to explain to the generations that follow and the ones that preceeded that YOU are the chosen ones that have decided to split this island?
Partition may happen I can't be sure, but i am sure that it will never happen with the agreement of the GC's. The GC president that accepts such a solution should be thrown into the other side where he can live in peace with the 1.5 million settlers that will arrive on the shores of north cyprus the day after it becomes Turkey.