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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:39 pm

BC Numismatics wrote:
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BC Numismatics wrote:AlexISS,the British Army was NOT an occupying force,as Cyprus was legally a British colony right up until independence.

EOKA WERE terrorists,as it was led by a scumbag called Nikos Sampson & a scumbag called George Grivas,who also led EOKA-B as well!

The S.B.A.s are legally established under the terms of the 1959 Independence Agreement.In the event of a reunification of Cyprus,there would be a cession of some territory,but the S.B.A.s would still exist.

Aidan.


Cyprus was "legally" a British colony? How come? Was it because they paid Turkey, the former "legal" owner of the island, to buy "colonization" rights? Cyprus was not an uninhabited island for the Brits to "colonize". As for the future of the bases, their status can and will be renegotiated once a unified Cypriot government emerges, the Brits know that and that's why they've been trying so hard to keep the island divided all these years


AlexISS,Cyprus became a British colony,as Turkey was bankrupt & had misruled it.It wasn't the British who have tried to keep the Cypriots divided.That responsibility lies with both Greece & Turkey,who ARE the problem!

The British were the best rulers of Cyprus prior to independence.If it hadn't been for Great Britain,then there wouldn't even be a country called Cyprus.

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you need to speak with a few people that lived through the British benevolent rule.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:51 pm

So do we start planning for the celebrations, the recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, music, dancing in the streets celebrating..how will the GCs feel then? when they watch the fireworks from the other side of the border thinking about why they were so stubborn in sharing the island equally....viva la TRNC.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 12, 2008 3:30 pm

Viewpoint wrote:So do we start planning for the celebrations, the recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, music, dancing in the streets celebrating..how will the GCs feel then? when they watch the fireworks from the other side of the border thinking about why they were so stubborn in sharing the island equally....viva la TRNC.


Christmas still comes once a year, doesn't VP, or did I miss something, or did you just now open your present.??

What's all the Hoopla About?? Can you let us in to your secret.!!

I meant to tell you the other day, when you couldn't remember that forum member from the past who really did have a great command of the English Language.

Loss of memory is the first sign of getting old, and having delusions are the first sign of being senile dementia.!!

Man, you have gotten both at the same time. :lol:

What's next, Alzheimers.?? Then you really wouldn't know, that there ever was a Cyprus Problem. :wink:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Feb 12, 2008 5:53 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So do we start planning for the celebrations, the recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, music, dancing in the streets celebrating..how will the GCs feel then? when they watch the fireworks from the other side of the border thinking about why they were so stubborn in sharing the island equally....viva la TRNC.


Christmas still comes once a year, doesn't VP, or did I miss something, or did you just now open your present.??

What's all the Hoopla About?? Can you let us in to your secret.!!

I meant to tell you the other day, when you couldn't remember that forum member from the past who really did have a great command of the English Language.

Loss of memory is the first sign of getting old, and having delusions are the first sign of being senile dementia.!!

Man, you have gotten both at the same time. :lol:

What's next, Alzheimers.?? Then you really wouldn't know, that there ever was a Cyprus Problem. :wink:


I agree I feel 100 years old some days must be the cause of memory loss, dont worry it will come to you as well.

Who knows the recognition of Kosovo will be just another example of how things can be solved and show the world that Cyprus cannot be solved by negotiations but only a forced and unified move to cut the umbilical cord.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:11 pm

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Who knows the recognition of Kosovo will be just another example of how things can be solved and show the world that Cyprus cannot be solved by negotiations but only a forced and unified move to cut the umbilical cord.


Amen to that.
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Postby Kikapu » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So do we start planning for the celebrations, the recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, music, dancing in the streets celebrating..how will the GCs feel then? when they watch the fireworks from the other side of the border thinking about why they were so stubborn in sharing the island equally....viva la TRNC.


Christmas still comes once a year, doesn't VP, or did I miss something, or did you just now open your present.??

What's all the Hoopla About?? Can you let us in to your secret.!!

I meant to tell you the other day, when you couldn't remember that forum member from the past who really did have a great command of the English Language.

Loss of memory is the first sign of getting old, and having delusions are the first sign of being senile dementia.!!

Man, you have gotten both at the same time. :lol:

What's next, Alzheimers.?? Then you really wouldn't know, that there ever was a Cyprus Problem. :wink:


I agree I feel 100 years old some days must be the cause of memory loss, dont worry it will come to you as well.

Who knows the recognition of Kosovo will be just another example of how things can be solved and show the world that Cyprus cannot be solved by negotiations but only a forced and unified move to cut the umbilical cord.


I agree I feel 100 years old some days must be the cause of memory loss, dont worry it will come to you as well.


Not too soon, I hope. :lol: :lol:

VP, I know we argue a lot, but I really hope you are not "losing your mind". I hater talking with Idiots. You are anything but an Idiot.....that was a compliment btw.

Who knows the recognition of Kosovo will be just another example of how things can be solved and show the world that Cyprus cannot be solved by negotiations but only a forced and unified move to cut the umbilical cord.


Where do you draw the parallels with Cyprus and Kosovo VP, to be any use to solving the Cyprus Problem. All these idiots running up and down this forum claiming victory for the "TRNC" just because Kosovo will get recognition from a lot of Countries, but will not be recognised by the UN or the EU Body. Kosovo will not be in any better position than the "TRNC"...legally speaking, once Russia and I'm sure China says NO at the UNSC for Kosovo's Unilateral Independence. I take that back. Since major countries will recognise Kosovo, they will become "Glorified Illegal State" as suppose to the "TRNC" which is
"no body gives a damn illegal state".

Americans and Europeans bombed Serbia for 70 days from the air to "liberate" Kosovars from the Serbs, despite the Serbs being Allies with the Americans in the WWII. Time does not stand still, remember that. So of course they are going to recognise the break away state, for their own benefit against Russia. Lets not even talk about Kosovo being formed on land taken from others. So, there are no parallels to Cyprus at all.

There is another reason as to why the US and Europe wants to punish the Serbs, aside from causing ethnic cleansing and murder with the Bosnians. It has to do with a very special Fighter Jet that was shot down by the Serbs. The pilot did survive and was rescued 6 days later behind "enemy lines". This was no ordinary Fighter Jet. It was a Radar Evading F-117A Nighthawk stealthy attack aircraft. The US had spent Billions on this aircraft that was meant to penetrate all air defence capabilities. Well, one was shot down because when the bomb-bay was opened to drop it's bombs, it lost it's Radar evasiveness. Someone was not thinking about this little detail in the designing stages of this aircraft. Few days later, the Chinese embassy was bombed by the Americans in Serbia during late evening, killing 3 people there. The US claimed that it's pilots had old "road maps" and did not know that was the Chinese embassy. I'm not making this up. So, what do you think the Americans were really bombing at the Chinese embassy. Was it perhaps, parts of this downed F-117A was taken there to be shipped back to China, and I'm sure it was done as well to Russia. So in essence, that little war in the Balkans, cost the USA a lot of expensive technology...in the Billions actually. So, this may well be payback time to the Serbs for passing on the F-117A technology to the Russians and the Chinese. Don't be surprised to see the above two countries saying NO to Kosovo's Unilateral Independence, and problems in the future.
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Postby Viewpoint » Wed Feb 13, 2008 12:15 am

Kikapu thanks for the compliment but my mind is not as devious or manipulative as some on this forum so I try to put forward what I as a TC is best for TCs.

The basic fact that it is a recognition issue will mean it will automatically be compared to the Cyprus problem, even the Russians stated it will cause a president but around 100 countries are preparing to recognise Kosovo. As you quite rightly said things do not stay the same in this changing world who know in 30 40 60 years time recognition may come we must not give up hope as agreeing solution with GCs is near enough impossible as the chasm is far to wide and now unbridgeable.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Wed Feb 13, 2008 1:27 am

Viewpoint wrote:Kikapu thanks for the compliment but my mind is not as devious or manipulative as some on this forum so I try to put forward what I as a TC is best for TCs.

The basic fact that it is a recognition issue will mean it will automatically be compared to the Cyprus problem, even the Russians stated it will cause a president but around 100 countries are preparing to recognise Kosovo. As you quite rightly said things do not stay the same in this changing world who know in 30 40 60 years time recognition may come we must not give up hope as agreeing solution with GCs is near enough impossible as the chasm is far to wide and now unbridgeable.


Sadly, all too true. THe only thing that GC's expect TC's to agree to is for them to commit suicide: both nationally, and literally....
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Postby Eric dayi » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:11 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So do we start planning for the celebrations, the recognition of the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus, music, dancing in the streets celebrating..how will the GCs feel then? when they watch the fireworks from the other side of the border thinking about why they were so stubborn in sharing the island equally....viva la TRNC.


Christmas still comes once a year, doesn't VP, or did I miss something, or did you just now open your present.??

What's all the Hoopla About?? Can you let us in to your secret.!!

I meant to tell you the other day, when you couldn't remember that forum member from the past who really did have a great command of the English Language.

Loss of memory is the first sign of getting old, and having delusions are the first sign of being senile dementia.!!

Man, you have gotten both at the same time. :lol:

What's next, Alzheimers.?? Then you really wouldn't know, that there ever was a Cyprus Problem. :wink:


I agree I feel 100 years old some days must be the cause of memory loss, dont worry it will come to you as well.

Who knows the recognition of Kosovo will be just another example of how things can be solved and show the world that Cyprus cannot be solved by negotiations but only a forced and unified move to cut the umbilical cord.


Kosovo will go the same way as Macedonia, it will be recognised by the whole world except the Greeks/GCs, Russians and China. Once the TRNC is recognised, who gives damn about Greece/GCs, Russians or the Chinese.

As you said VP, viva la TRNC.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Wed Feb 13, 2008 2:16 am

Eric,the so-called 'TRNC' has no legal right to exist,but Kosovo does.Once again,you're full of it as usual! What a Hell-bound malakas!

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