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Postby MicAtCyp » Thu Apr 07, 2005 4:35 pm

By the way "fuck" is for animals like Andrik and Uzan who was cheating GC girls in Famagusta by talking Greek just to have a "fuck", but would rather commit suicide than get married or let his child marry one.

When you two ever stop walking on 4 feet then you will start "making love" with a person you really love and care for. :oops: :evil:
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Apr 07, 2005 11:39 pm

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Viewpoint, if my son and a TC young lady would like to marry the first thing I would do is get to know the girl better and then check what kind of people her family are. Most TCs I met are kind and polite people.After I make sure everything is alright I would give them my blessings. Even if NOT everything would be OK I would still do the same but warn both of them of my findings.


If he can find a TC girl to marry goodluck to him but my first choice for my children is a TC but if they choose Turkish, English or any other nationality then I would be disappointed but if they wanted to marry a GC my family and I would be devastated.
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Postby metecyp » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:14 am

Viewpoint wrote:If he can find a TC girl to marry goodluck to him but my first choice for my children is a TC but if they choose Turkish, English or any other nationality then I would be disappointed but if they wanted to marry a GC my family and I would be devastated.

This kind of attitude exist on both sides and it's not going away until we start living together. Even in America, it's sometimes an issue for the families when a white man marries to a black girl especially in the southern states like Arkansas, Lousiana, etc. But things are changing and I hope Cypriots will learn to cherish differences and accept diversity at least in my generation. Viewpoint, at least know that you're being intolerant and unfair, if not racist, towards GCs and other nationalities by requesting your children to marry only TCs.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:24 am

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Viewpoint, at least know that you're being intolerant and unfair, if not racist, towards GCs and other nationalities by requesting your children to marry only TCs.


Im being honest and feel that many Cypriots think this way they just dont air their views but if it came to deciding if their children could marry TC or GC they would pick someone from their own ethnic origin, this is natural.
Dont forget we have a lot of bad blood between us and change takes time which may come with reunification, but seeing we are light miles away from any chance of such a mircle like us agreeing lets stick to our own.
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Postby metecyp » Fri Apr 08, 2005 3:13 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Im being honest and feel that many Cypriots think this way they just dont air their views but if it came to deciding if their children could marry TC or GC they would pick someone from their own ethnic origin, this is natural.

I know you're being honest and I'm aware that many TCs might feel the same way but this doesn't change the fact that it's wrong. In America, for centuries every white American thought slavery was OK but now we know that slavery is wrong. Now can we say slavery was right because many people believed in it? Absolutely not. This is a similar case. TCs might feel that marrying to a GC is horrible (same as GCs feeling marrying to a TC is wrong) but this doesn't change the fact that this attitude is wrong.

1- It's not your life but your child's life. So it's disrespectful to your child above all.
2- It's OK to prefer a TC son-in-law but it's intolerant and unfair to demand just a TC son-in-law.
3- It's not humane to see someone as a TC or a GC before seeing them as a human being.
Viewpoint wrote:Dont forget we have a lot of bad blood between us and change takes time which may come with reunification

And white Americans and black Americans don't have no bad blood between themselves? Have you ever heard "The Lynch Law"? or "KKK"? Go and do a google search and you'll be surprised to see how much bad blood exists between blacks and white in America. With or without reunification, this attitude has to do both in TC and GC society because it's wrong and there's no excuse for it.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Fri Apr 08, 2005 6:47 pm

brother wrote:Would you be happy for you children to marry across the divide?
By John Leonidou


WITH leaders in Cyprus all professing their commitment to reuniting the island, it would seem hardly any of them would be happy to unite the communities in their own homes, with their children marrying across the community divide.

In an interview with Hurriyet, Turkish Cypriot ‘prime minister’ Mehmet Ali Talat spoke of his reluctance to see his children marrying a Greek Cypriot, something which Government Spokesman Kypros Chrysostomides pounced on to point out the Turkish Cypriot leader’s desire for partition.

“Neither I nor my wife would be happy if one of children ends up marrying a Greek Cypriot,” Talat was quoted as saying. “It is our wish that our children end up marrying Turkish Cypriots. However, as a father that is just what I would prefer but the final word is for my children to have. It is their life, after all, and besides that they won’t listen to anyone once they have fallen in love.”

Seizing on his comments, Chrysostomides said on Tuesday: “I believe that Talat’s comments do not coincide with modern political or social opinion. His comments basically confirm his intent on the island’s partition, but that is his own personal opinion.”

However, Chrysostomides himself was defensive when asked how happy he would be to see his children marrying Turkish Cypriots. “These kind of questions you should put to me at the briefing room and not by phone,” he said, before ending the conversation.


Nicosia Mayor Michalakis Zampelas, however, said he “had no problem with inter-marriage between the two communities”. Asked how he would feel if one of his own children wanted to lead the way, Zampelas merely repeated his answer: “I have no problem with inter-marriage between the two communities.”

DISY deputy chairman Averoff Neophytou said he had other matters to think about before he could answer such a question.

“First I would have to make the decision to get married myself, and then I would be able to answer that question” Neophytou chuckled.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

These politicians are crazy ...
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Postby Bananiot » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:01 pm

They are not just crazy Alexandros, they are a constant threat to our very existence. Chrysostomides is a moron and you probably know that his initial reaction to the A plan was positive but when he realised that at last he had a chance to hold a public position he jumped to the opportunity to realise his life long ambition. He duly changed camps and supported Papadopoulos's candidacy.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:12 pm

Bananiot wrote:They are not just crazy Alexandros, they are a constant threat to our very existence. Chrysostomides is a moron and you probably know that his initial reaction to the A plan was positive but when he realised that at last he had a chance to hold a public position he jumped to the opportunity to realise his life long ambition. He duly changed camps and supported Papadopoulos's candidacy.


He is still positive to a solution based on the Annan Plan. In fact, he is one of those GC politicians who has a clear set of realistic and workable ideas as to how the Annan Plan should be improved. Also, he has been a regular advocate of the notion that Cypriots should work to prepare their own detailed thesis for a bizonal-bicommunal federation, rather than wait for the solution to "drop down from heaven".

So, overall, I don't share your sentiments concerning the particular politician.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:27 pm

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know you're being honest and I'm aware that many TCs might feel the same way but this doesn't change the fact that it's wrong. In America, for centuries every white American thought slavery was OK but now we know that slavery is wrong. Now can we say slavery was right because many people believed in it? Absolutely not. This is a similar case. TCs might feel that marrying to a GC is horrible (same as GCs feeling marrying to a TC is wrong) but this doesn't change the fact that this attitude is wrong.


Im sure you wont loose any sleep over it, havent been in touch with Gcs for 30 years, so no big loss, you dont need us and we dont need or want you to inter-marry, thats why partition is the best solution, to avoid mixing with you guys forever.
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Postby uzan » Sat Apr 09, 2005 2:02 am

MicAtCyp wrote:By the way "fuck" is for animals like Andrik and Uzan who was cheating GC girls in Famagusta by talking Greek just to have a "fuck", but would rather commit suicide than get married or let his child marry one.

Where did you get this idea? I wasn't cheating GC girls in Magosa,they wanted because they couldn't do with gc in my days.My days were Very hard to talk to girls. I run away to Australia with my gc girl and had a child to but it didn't work out again church found out and took her away and child died.Why I am against mixed marrige.

When you two ever stop walking on 4 feet then you will start "making love" with a person you really love and care for. :oops: :evil:


I have woman,I love and care for her. Iam happy and she is TC to we can share everythink.
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