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A new problem: All about energy

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Postby zan » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:31 am

Get Real! wrote:
zan wrote:
Nikitas wrote:Very true Get Real. The learned professor has not been following current affairs. He slipped on an oil slick.


Do the Americans know about this or is it just the "RoC"????

If they had known they might not have gone into Iraq...Watdaya think?????? :roll: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It's just the Bush family that insists on archaic technology because they've invested so much in it but just watch what happens once they're out of office...


Did you get that that was meant to be you GR?????Sitting on gold whilst playing with your toys trying to convince the world that there is a greater power source that is "imminent"........ :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Streets full of discarded cars because they no longer have to use oil......Bloody road hogs...Thats it..We can run cars on road hogs....A new form of power... :lol: :lol: :lol: We can use their skins instead of plastic....Just imagine...A hog skinned computer on your desk running off hog power. We can use their bones for making spectacles and pens and mobile phones.....I can run cables in little wooden trays like they used to do in the old days...The oils from their bodies can be used as lubrication for inserting GRs brain back into its usual place...His arse... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:38 am

humanist wrote:You been waiting for recognition for 34 and you will keep on waiting for naother 50 years. Kosovo is Kosovo Cyprus and the illegal Turkish occupation is another matter.


Unfortunately not. The only people objecting Kosovo are Russia and their arse kissers the RoC, you guys are basically "lovers" anyways.

So obviously no one else agrees with your views of "Kosovo is Kosovo and Turkeys the illegal occupation", they know dam well that it is similar in principal, hence why they refuse it so vigorously, because whatever happens to Kosovo the same will go for us.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:44 am

The UAE are preparing a zero energy input city. Germany is close to producing 10 per cent of its power from renewables. EU rules mandate a similar level for all EU countries in four years. The solar industry is advancing by leaps and bounds and now we are getting the latest generation of thin film panels that can be incorporated in new or older buildings without adding weight. Wind power is advancing to the point that we now have solar parks twenty miles from Athens city center. Oil is definitely not the sole energy source as it was fifteen years ago.

At current efficiency levels if 4 per cent of the Sahara was covered by photovoltaics it would provide the energy for the whole of Europe. That would make the straits of Gibraltar THE corridor.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 12, 2008 2:53 am

Yeah the way we are going, in 50 years Sahara desert will be something totally different, sending you back to the drawing table. :lol:
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Postby zan » Tue Feb 12, 2008 6:16 pm

Energy and the new Cyprus problem
Monday, February 11, 2008


Özay MEHMET
Gerhard Schroeder's visit to the Turkish Republic of northern Cyprus early
in February 2008 signals the strategic fact that a new Cyprus problem is
emerging. The old Turkish-Greek conflict on the island is being replaced by
an energy-centered problem.

Northern Cyprus is now a strategic territory, dominating a new Turkish
energy corridor, the new supply route of oil, and soon natural gas, to
Europe. For a long time, the Europeans believed that they could control this
region via Greek Cypriots. Make Limassol the trading hub of eastern
Mediterranean and push Ankara into opening its ports to international
shipping carrying the Greek Cyprus-controlled "Flag of Convenience."

Ankara has called this bluff, not only in the diplomatic front, but, more
significantly on the ground in real economic terms. The port of Iskenderun
is now the leading oil exporting terminal in the region. Turkish government
plans to turn Iskenderun into the Rotterdam of eastern Mediterranean.

The world, including Schroeder's new Russian friends, is watching. They
can see ahead.

Limassol is declining as a regional center of shipping. International
shipping companies are leaving this port city for more profitable locations
in Singapore and elsewhere, giving up the hope that Ankara will dance to the
European Union's music.

Turkish shipping interests centered in Istanbul expect to cash in on the
estimated $1.5 billion worth shipping and transit services linked to the
Iskenderun terminal. Ankara is obliged to listen to this important
constituency. It will resist opening its ports, as demanded by the EU to
Greek Cypriot (i.e. international FOC) shipping, unless and until its own EU
membership aspirations are fully met and the EU effectively delivers its
promises to the Turkish Cypriots. If EU does not listen to the increasingly
disillusioned Turkish Cypriots, it should now listen to Schroeder. He
traveled to northern Cyprus to declare that the EU should stop punishing TCs
and keep its promise for lifting the Greek Cypriot embargoes on them.



A new problem: All about energy

The Turkish Cypriots, in the meantime, are sitting pretty tight, realizing
slowly the new geopolitics being played in their backyard. What is not fully
realized yet is that the Old Cyprus Problem is dead, having died with the
Annan Plan.

A New Cyprus Problem is on the agenda. It is all about energy, and the
control of energy corridor. The new energy problem, centered on Cyprus, has
two dimensions. One if the potential of oil reserves in the territorial
waters around the island. The other is the control of sea lanes in waters to
the north of northern Cyprus and south of Anatolian coastline, the Turkish
Energy Corridor (TEC).

The oil potential in territorial waters of the island is in disputed
waters. The Greek Cypriot authorities have already signed agreements over
exploration rights with Egypt and Lebanon, but Turkey, the dominant power in
the area, has claimed some of these as its own territorial water. It is
unlikely anything will come out of this potential, even if significant oil
reserves were to be discovered.

More important is the TEC. Increasingly, other high-ranking European and
international diplomats will follow in the footsteps of Gerhard Schroeder
courting northern Cyprus government. Why? By geography, the TEC is similar
to the Straits of Hormuz. Nobody would like to see it in unfriendly hands,
least of all the Europeans and the Americans. Turks, unlike Iranians, are
pro-West, even though to date they have been unfairly treated.

Not too much longer, though.

The political implications of TEC are immense. With a divided island, now
looking permanently partitioned on account of the impending re-election for
a second term of the inflexible Greek Cypriot President Papadopoulos,
neither the EU nor the United States nor the world at large, can afford to
sit and watch the unresolved Cyprus problem descend into yet another zone of
hot conflict in a chaos-ridden world, hungry for oil.

Gradually but surely, therefore, the coming years will witness a Two-State
solution in Cyprus, first by the lifting of political and economic embargoes
on northern Cyprus in the international arena, followed by statehood,
similar to what is happening in Kosovo.

* Özay Mehmet, Ph.D, is professor emeritus with the Carleton University,
Ottawa, Canada and professor of economics with the Eastern Mediterranean
University, northern Cyprus. He can be reached at [email protected]


© 2005 Dogan Daily News Inc. www.turkishdailynews.com.tr
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Feb 12, 2008 8:05 pm

This energy corridor crap is so reminiscent of the Greek Junta propaganda advocating the creation of a "strategic mediterrranean union" which would rival the EEC (EU name back in the 70s). It was wishful thinking then, and it is now. The 40 miles of water between Cyprus and Turkey has about zero strategic value.

Today the foreign miniser of Slovenia analysed the unique status of Kossovo and explained exactly how it differs from other situations around the world and why the EU would never recognise those.

Another case of dreaming and wishful thinking.
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