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[Sotos]

I never seen Phoenix attacking Birkibrisly or Kikapu. She just defends our island from those that want to split it up!

[miltiades]

I never seen Phoenix attacking Birkibrisly or Kikapu. She just defends our island from those that want to split it up!

Sotos , she attacks T/Cs , does not make distinction between the partitionists and and the majority of T/Cs who do not wish to become a Turkish province but a part of Cyprus that they can call their own and not be treated like a minority but be part of the Cypriot people.
I continually attack partitionist views , I continually refer to the "TRNC" AS A PART OF CYPRUS UNDER FOREIGN OCCUPATION , BUT I HAVE NEVER
BLANKET ATTACKED T/Cs .

[IcyNoAngel]

Phoenix, take the example of Eliko, If you say you are leaving, just go, what are you still doing here?
If you post again it will mean that you are trying to act like a victim, which you clearly ain't, and expect people to fall to your feet begging you not to go.

You can also take Eric with you, which is another dumb-ass.

[zan]

I never seen Phoenix attacking Birkibrisly or Kikapu. She just defends our island from those that want to split it up!

Sotos , she attacks T/Cs , does not make distinction between the partitionists and and the majority of T/Cs who do not wish to become a Turkish province but a part of Cyprus that they can call their own and not be treated like a minority but be part of the Cypriot people.
I continually attack partitionist views , I continually refer to the "TRNC" AS A PART OF CYPRUS UNDER FOREIGN OCCUPATION , BUT I HAVE NEVER
BLANKET ATTACKED T/Cs .

Shame he Cyprus you are trying to sell us is the Greek one though...

Did you manage to catch that "`Wish you were here. Then and Now", program Miltiades......The only flag they zoomed in on was the Greek one...Not a Cypriot flag in sight......Me paranoid...Never!!!

[JoJo]

Bicker...bicker...bicker..get ovet it people.

[DT.]

I never seen Phoenix attacking Birkibrisly or Kikapu. She just defends our island from those that want to split it up!

Sotos , she attacks T/Cs , does not make distinction between the partitionists and and the majority of T/Cs who do not wish to become a Turkish province but a part of Cyprus that they can call their own and not be treated like a minority but be part of the Cypriot people.
I continually attack partitionist views , I continually refer to the "TRNC" AS A PART OF CYPRUS UNDER FOREIGN OCCUPATION , BUT I HAVE NEVER
BLANKET ATTACKED T/Cs .

Shame he Cyprus you are trying to sell us is the Greek one though...

Did you manage to catch that "`Wish you were here. Then and Now", program Miltiades......The only flag they zoomed in on was the Greek one...Not a Cypriot flag in sight......Me paranoid...Never!!!

Well there's one flag the size of a mountain that you can't miss. Why didnt the film that?

[zan]

I never seen Phoenix attacking Birkibrisly or Kikapu. She just defends our island from those that want to split it up!

Sotos , she attacks T/Cs , does not make distinction between the partitionists and and the majority of T/Cs who do not wish to become a Turkish province but a part of Cyprus that they can call their own and not be treated like a minority but be part of the Cypriot people.
I continually attack partitionist views , I continually refer to the "TRNC" AS A PART OF CYPRUS UNDER FOREIGN OCCUPATION , BUT I HAVE NEVER
BLANKET ATTACKED T/Cs .

Shame he Cyprus you are trying to sell us is the Greek one though...

Did you manage to catch that "`Wish you were here. Then and Now", program Miltiades......The only flag they zoomed in on was the Greek one...Not a Cypriot flag in sight......Me paranoid...Never!!!

Well there's one flag the size of a mountain that you can't miss. Why didnt the film that?

It was a film on Cyprus mate...We apparently don't exist..... But the Greece part of Cyprus apparently does....

[pantheman]

I never seen Phoenix attacking Birkibrisly or Kikapu. She just defends our island from those that want to split it up!

Sotos , she attacks T/Cs , does not make distinction between the partitionists and and the majority of T/Cs who do not wish to become a Turkish province but a part of Cyprus that they can call their own and not be treated like a minority but be part of the Cypriot people.
I continually attack partitionist views , I continually refer to the "TRNC" AS A PART OF CYPRUS UNDER FOREIGN OCCUPATION , BUT I HAVE NEVER
BLANKET ATTACKED T/Cs .

Shame he Cyprus you are trying to sell us is the Greek one though...

Did you manage to catch that "`Wish you were here. Then and Now", program Miltiades......The only flag they zoomed in on was the Greek one...Not a Cypriot flag in sight......Me paranoid...Never!!!

Well there's one flag the size of a mountain that you can't miss. Why didnt the film that?

It was a film on Cyprus mate...We apparently don't exist..... But the Greece part of Cyprus apparently does....

Thats correct Zan, you don't. You are illegal as anything illegal it doesn't exsist. Does that surprise you ??

I would have thought you knew that by now

[zan]

Yep...Know it well.......Now did you know this then...

[NEWS ANALYSIS]
Military-civilian consensus on Cyprus

A summit meeting held in Ankara during KKTC President Mehmet Ali Talat's (R) visit with top commanders and President Abdullah Gül (C) last month. Turkey's political leadership and the Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) have recently reached a common understanding on policies regarding the Cyprus problem, after experiencing ups and downs between the TSK and the Turkish Cypriot leadership in the past year that stemmed in particular from the former's traditional policy of interfering in politics, Turkish diplomatic sources have said.


Under the policy, clarified in Ankara by Turkey in January during a visit paid by Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (KKTC) President Mehmet Ali Talat, Turkey will continue promoting a new partnership based on two constituent states in Cyprus among the Turkish and the Greek Cypriot communities, also called the "Virgin Birth" concept. The KKTC is not internationally recognized. According to the same Turkish diplomatic sources, this was also the essence of the Annan plan, which took its name from former UN Secretary-General Kofi Annan. Talat met with Chief of Turkish General Staff Gen. Yaşar Büyükanıt during his visit to Ankara on Jan. 3, marking an ice-melting period between the Turkish Cypriot administration and the TSK.

A summit held in Ankara during Talat's visit among top commanders, President Abdullah Gül and Talat resulted in the reshaping and clarification of Turkey's policies on Cyprus ahead of the Greek Cypriot presidential elections to be held on Feb. 17 and 24, stated a Turkish diplomatic source speaking to Today's Zaman.

The summit also came after a year-long row between the KKTC leadership and the TSK over Cyprus policies. Fears were expressed in Ankara that the disagreement was playing into the hands of the Greek Cypriot administration.

But the Ankara summit in early January not only removed hurdles between the military, the KKTC and Ankara but also resulted in the approval of a common position to be pursued on the Cyprus issue in the coming months and years.

Under this common policy -- which does not differ from positions of the past but rather clarifies them -- recognizes that non-resolution of the Cyprus dispute inflicts harm to Turkey and its EU membership process while also contributing to the continued international embargo on the KKTC.

Virgin Birth concept

The Annan plan was the result of a 45-year-long UN effort, recalled a Turkish diplomat.

"Thus this plan is a UN acquis that can never be changed. Turkey no longer calls it the Annan plan, but a comprehensive UN plan. For the sake of a political solution Turkey and the KKTC accepted the Annan plan, though there were elements that did not please either side. But Turkey has swallowed a bitter pill and accepted it," said the same source.

From now on, it is not acceptable for either Turkey or the KKTC to accept any formula that will mean a step back from the Annan plan.

The essence of the Annan plan has been its recognition of a new constituent state to be established on the island; in other words, a state to be created from scratch in what can also be called a "Virgin Birth" state concept, said Turkish diplomatic sources.

This new constituent state will be based on political equality but not numerical equality.

West campaigns against Papadopoulos

With the forthcoming Greek Cypriot presidential elections, after which activity at the international platform is also expected to take place, Turkey's Cyprus policy has been awakened from its slumber.

Though there are nine presidential candidates, three main candidates are running neck and neck, according to opinion polls. They are the incumbent, President Tassos Papadopoulos, AKEL Secretary-General Demetris Christofias and Euro MP and former Foreign Minister Ioannis Kasoulides.

According to Turkish diplomatic sources, leading European Union members have launched a campaign to undermine Papadopoulos' chance to win, on grounds that he has been extremely uncompromising on breaking the current stalemate on Cyprus.

Behind increased attempts by some European capitals as well as the US to further steps to upgrade the KKTC's status has been a policy of undermining Papadopoulos' chance of winning because of his uncompromising policies on the reunification of this tiny eastern Mediterranean island.

The EU has increasingly been alarmed by the potential danger of Cyprus moving toward partition in the face of a longtime stalemate on the island. The visit paid to the KKTC by former German Prime Minister Gerhard Schroeder on Feb. 1 actually carried the message of an EU campaign to weaken Papadopoulos, said a Western diplomat speaking to Today's Zaman.

In fact there have been serious positive steps taken not only in some European capitals but also in the Muslim world to enable the Turkish Cypriot leadership to be accepted as an interlocutor as the Greek Cypriot leadership has increasingly been distancing itself from a solution based on the reunification of the two communities in Cyprus, in particular since its admission to the EU in 2004 as the sole representative of the island.

Europe's increased concern over Cyprus moving toward partition has also been supported lately by an influential organization, the International Crisis Group (ICG), which saw in its latest report "Taiwanization" in the KKTC, urging a new Cyprus bid.

"One more major effort, backed by the United Nations and the European Union, should be made in 2008 to end the deep-seated Cyprus problem," said the ICG report, released on Jan. 10.

It warned that non-resolution would result in negative consequences for all parties concerned.

Developments since 2004, when a UN plan to reunite Cyprus failed after it was rejected by the Greek Cypriots in a referendum, "have rendered obsolete the belief that the relatively tranquil status quo can be preserved indefinitely," said the report. "If no settlement is found, the process referred to locally as 'Taiwanization' will inevitably speed up, consolidating partition," it added.

To facilitate a new and meaningful drive for a solution, Turkey should also open its ports and airports to traffic from Greek Cyprus, followed quickly by action from the Greek Cypriots to remove obstacles they have created to direct EU trade with the Turkish Cypriots, the ICG said.

In the meantime, Western efforts to weaken Papadopoulos may contribute to his defeat in the presidential elections and result in the victory of Christofias, someone who Turkish diplomatic sources describe as in essence not in support of the resolution of the Cyprus problem based on the political equality of the two communities.

"Christofias ... [endorses] propaganda that says that Turkey is the main stumbling block to a solution on Cyprus. So in the event he wins, it will take longer for Turkey to explain to the world that he is not for a solution, either," said a Turkish diplomatic source.

It is understood that in the long term, negotiated partition of the island appears to be the final solution.

[pantheman]

There you go again, funny man.

dream on mate. You keep on spouting this information in many different guises. You just want to believe so much that people will recognise you it has become an obsession to make yourslf believe it.

Well get this , it ain't never gonna happen because international laws are there for a reason and thats to keep invading forces and illegal occupation of others territories at bay.

get a grip man will ya.

Time will tell, in the mean time be a good boy and just kiss turkeys arse once more before you go beddy byes.

You really are a dip stick Zan, and I had you down as one of the more intelligent ones too.