Cyprus-Forum.com

[Bananiot]

Phoenix, what Kasoulides said added up to a scathing attack on Papadopoulos. The outgoing President is responsible for the reversal of our fortunes and by the way, Iceman is dead right about the fascists that have brought us to this state. You can now find these fools at the side of Papadopoulos, scheming for more problems for Cyprus. I agree with Miltiades too. What he said amounts to a fair statement.

[Piratis]

The outgoing President is responsible for the reversal of our fortunes

If we had gone with your way we would have no fortune at all. We would be dead and buried.

[Bananiot]

Ask the Denktash's Piratis, they seem to think like you too, only they reckon the Turkish Cypriot community would be dead and buried had we said yes to the "dreaded" plan of that black (what's his name, again?) geezer. I am glad you did not contest (and thus you agree) that Papadopoulos has rerversed our fortunes and we now, alone, stand accused.

[iceman]

The root of the Cyprus problem is foreigners invading our island and trying to impose on us their will by force.

Would any of the problems of Cyprus exists if turks and british had never came to this island with the intention to enslave the Cypriot people and exploit our island? The answer is no.

The Cyprus problem will be solve when, and only when, Cypriots are finally liberated from foreign troops and are allowed to be free and democratically take decisions for their own island.

the root of the problem is people like Phoenix

I guess you are missing the meaning of the word "root". People like Phoenix simply react to the oppressions and crimes committed against Cypriots. Had those crimes not been committed, and had the Cypriots been allowed to be free and decide in a democratic way about their own island, then people like Phoenix would not be provoked to react in the way they do.

If you want to silence "people like Phoenix" the way is easy: Finally allow to the Cypriot people to have their freedom and democracy without human rights violations and foreign troops.

Thats a load of bollox piratis...The present state of Cyprus problem existed before 1974...Stop going back centuries looking for some one to blame!!

[shahmaran]

People couldn't invade us and convince us that we couldn't live together if we were such lovey dovey compatriots in the first place, we clearly weren't, it didn't take much for them to turn us against each other because the foundations were there already.

[Bananiot]

But, that can spur a sane man argue that the problem begun with the arrival of the Greeks at around 1400 BC, who were Mycenaen merchants and started the Hellenisation of the island. It took the Greeks some 350-400 years to fully Hellenise Cyprus and I can just about hear the Piratises of the time crying "foul".

Should I spend more time in this stupid and futile excersise?

[bill cobbett]

The REAL Cyprus Problem is not about Turkish Cypriot isolation or recognition for their pseudo-state.

The REAL Cyprus Problem is not about the problem of re-homing Anatolian settlers.

The REAL Cyprus Problem is not whether Turkey may or may not join the EU.

~~~ - ~~~

The REAL Cyprus Problem simply requires the reversal of the Invasion and Occupation of Cyprus by Turkey.

Unfortunately, the Cyprus issue has been turned from one of an invasion and occupation into the so-called Turkish Cypriot isolation and this creates a lot of problems for us. We have to win back our friends.

Euro MP Ioannis Kasoulides


The REAL Cyprus Problem has been hijacked by the Turk-TCs in order to cloud and veil their crimes.

Absolutely, spot on. There is no "Cyprus Problem" - the world and the free areas of the Republic have moved on.

The problem that does remain is The Turkish Occupation.

[paaul12]

Phoenix wrote

Even friends need reminding of the REAL Cyprus Problem.

“friends” have realised after ALL these years, who has been lying to them

The waters have been muddied, issues clouded

Finally the waters are clearing and the world has started to see for the first time who is responsible for the prolonging of the Cyprob

and too many people are confused about what we REALLY need to solve.

There is no confession, you do not want a settlement with the Turkish Cypriots, unless it is completely on your terms, and you are in a position once again to dominate the Turkish Cypriot people, well it aint gonna happen!!!!!!!

[phoenix]

Phoenix, what Kasoulides said added up to a scathing attack on Papadopoulos. The outgoing President is responsible for the reversal of our fortunes and by the way, Iceman is dead right about the fascists that have brought us to this state. You can now find these fools at the side of Papadopoulos, scheming for more problems for Cyprus. I agree with Miltiades too. What he said amounts to a fair statement.

What fortune did we have that the incumbent President has reversed?

I was not aware Cyprus had any good fortune prior to Papadopoulos' Presidency.

I was aware only that we had great misfortune. The misfortune to be neighbours of a country that cannot keep its hands off its smaller, friendly neighbours.

What good fortune did we have prior to Papadopoulos? .... please tell me Bananiot.

We had no good fortune and we have no good fortune because Turkey has been occupying Cyprus both before and during Papadopoulos' premiership.

Turkey is still occupying Cyprus ... not because of what the President did or failed to do .... but because Turkey is a big country with a big Army ..... and like a blood-sucking parasite, it is hard to remove once it has taken root.

[Viewpoint]

Did the GCs have a link in the chain of events that lead us directly to division?