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Does Reunification equal Reconciliation?

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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:07 pm

Maybe we can start with your current leader?
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 08, 2008 1:43 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Maybe we can start with your current leader?



They wont havethat. He is 'legal', recognised by the entire world. If he did, ( :roll: ) we would be halfway there. :lol: :lol: Even my old friend Clerides would not escape. :lol: :lol:
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 08, 2008 3:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Maybe we can start with your current leader?



They wont havethat. He is 'legal', recognised by the entire world. If he did, ( :roll: ) we would be halfway there. :lol: :lol: Even my old friend Clerides would not escape. :lol: :lol:




not to mention Rauf Denktash

whats clerides done to you?
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Postby denizaksulu » Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:43 pm

DT. wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Maybe we can start with your current leader?



They wont havethat. He is 'legal', recognised by the entire world. If he did, ( :roll: ) we would be halfway there. :lol: :lol: Even my old friend Clerides would not escape. :lol: :lol:




not to mention Rauf Denktash

whats clerides done to you?



Clerides has done nothing to me. I like him although he was in the Eoka (so I believe). Correct me if I am wrong. You are right about RRDenktas.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:26 pm

phoenix wrote:Northern Ireland is the closest analogy to the Cyprus Problem in my opinion.

The only means of re-unification that would work speedily is for the TCs to remove the Turks and go back to their original homes thus allowing the GCs to return to theirs.

This could take place in months.

The slower re-unification will come about when the EU forces Turkey to withdraw from EU properties ....

This will be initiated in the next few years culminating in withdrawal of Turkish troops in < / = 5 years.



Are you referring to pre-1974 homes, or pre-1963 homes?
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Postby phoenix » Fri Feb 08, 2008 8:35 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
phoenix wrote:Northern Ireland is the closest analogy to the Cyprus Problem in my opinion.

The only means of re-unification that would work speedily is for the TCs to remove the Turks and go back to their original homes thus allowing the GCs to return to theirs.

This could take place in months.

The slower re-unification will come about when the EU forces Turkey to withdraw from EU properties ....

This will be initiated in the next few years culminating in withdrawal of Turkish troops in < / = 5 years.



Are you referring to pre-1974 homes, or pre-1963 homes?


If you are going to be obtuse, let's go the whole hog and say pre - 1571 homes :roll:
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Postby utu » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:15 pm

phoenix wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
phoenix wrote:Northern Ireland is the closest analogy to the Cyprus Problem in my opinion.

The only means of re-unification that would work speedily is for the TCs to remove the Turks and go back to their original homes thus allowing the GCs to return to theirs.

This could take place in months.

The slower re-unification will come about when the EU forces Turkey to withdraw from EU properties ....

This will be initiated in the next few years culminating in withdrawal of Turkish troops in < / = 5 years.



Are you referring to pre-1974 homes, or pre-1963 homes?


If you are going to be obtuse, let's go the whole hog and say pre - 1571 homes :roll:



Phoenix, Expatkiwi makes a good point. From December 1963 through 1965, Turkish Cypriots were forced of their land and homes and into enclaves, leaving those vacated areas to be filled by Greek Cypriots. Now whether they were forced off by GC militants or TC militants is immaterial. Would these properties be returned?
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Postby phoenix » Fri Feb 08, 2008 9:43 pm

utu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
phoenix wrote:Northern Ireland is the closest analogy to the Cyprus Problem in my opinion.

The only means of re-unification that would work speedily is for the TCs to remove the Turks and go back to their original homes thus allowing the GCs to return to theirs.

This could take place in months.

The slower re-unification will come about when the EU forces Turkey to withdraw from EU properties ....

This will be initiated in the next few years culminating in withdrawal of Turkish troops in < / = 5 years.



Are you referring to pre-1974 homes, or pre-1963 homes?


If you are going to be obtuse, let's go the whole hog and say pre - 1571 homes :roll:



Phoenix, Expatkiwi makes a good point. From December 1963 through 1965, Turkish Cypriots were forced of their land and homes and into enclaves, leaving those vacated areas to be filled by Greek Cypriots. Now whether they were forced off by GC militants or TC militants is immaterial. Would these properties be returned?


.... And by extrapolation I make an even better point. 8)

If you are going to keep being dissatisfied with everything on offer .... then the kindest solution of all, makes the deepest cut, back prior to 1571 ....
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:11 pm

phoenix wrote:
utu wrote:
phoenix wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
phoenix wrote:Northern Ireland is the closest analogy to the Cyprus Problem in my opinion.

The only means of re-unification that would work speedily is for the TCs to remove the Turks and go back to their original homes thus allowing the GCs to return to theirs.

This could take place in months.

The slower re-unification will come about when the EU forces Turkey to withdraw from EU properties ....

This will be initiated in the next few years culminating in withdrawal of Turkish troops in < / = 5 years.



Are you referring to pre-1974 homes, or pre-1963 homes?


If you are going to be obtuse, let's go the whole hog and say pre - 1571 homes :roll:



Phoenix, Expatkiwi makes a good point. From December 1963 through 1965, Turkish Cypriots were forced of their land and homes and into enclaves, leaving those vacated areas to be filled by Greek Cypriots. Now whether they were forced off by GC militants or TC militants is immaterial. Would these properties be returned?


.... And by extrapolation I make an even better point. 8)

If you are going to keep being dissatisfied with everything on offer .... then the kindest solution of all, makes the deepest cut, back prior to 1571 ....


You are the ones who say OHI not us.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Feb 08, 2008 10:23 pm

our president says if he is re-elected he would reject ANY plan by the U.N as it would lead to permenant division of the island... while the other two top presidents would move faster for settlement... next weekend when the president is elected
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