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[zan]

My My! Just a quick visit and I find he wicked witch of the south has been at it again.......I will have more time tomorrow to reply better but how about this for a start........See you tomorrow I hope RuffPaella

On Sept. 10, 1964, the U.N. Secretary-General reported that "UNFICYP" carried out a detailed survey of all damage to properties throughout the island during the disturbances... It shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish-Cypriot or mixed villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2,000 others have suffered damage from looting. In Ktima 38 houses and shops have been destroyed totally and 122 partially. In the Orphomita suburb of Nicosia, 50 houses have been totally destroyed while a further 240 have been partially destroyed there and in adjacent suburbs."


"180. UNFICYP carried out a detailed survey of all damage to
properties throughout the island during the disturbances ... It
shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish Cypriot or mixed
villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2000 others have
suffered damage from looting."

"190. In addition to losses incurred in agriculture and in
industry during the first part of the year, the Turkish community
had lost other sources of its income ... The trade of the Turkish
community had considerably declined during the period, due to the
existing situation, and unemployment reached a very high level as
approximately 25,000 Turkish Cypriots had become refugees."
(S/5950, 10 September 1964)

[miltiades]

Can you provide a link to the above since Im searching for this report and cant find.
Thanks ..

[phoenix]

Zan ... none of the reports state 100s of TC villages burned down.

Looting, yeah ... probably by TCs.

[miltiades]

Just found out where Zan got the information from, it appears that www.mediaprof.org is a propaganda site for the "TRNC" Nothing in the contents is , so far corraborated , by independent saurces. We shall see as I carry my searches through UN archives.
This what the site does and ZAN Presents this as gospel truth !!

This site provides information and histories (both official and personal) related to Turkish Cypriots and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus (TRNC). The focus is on the personal stories told by Turkish Cypriots who lived through "the troubles" on Cyprus between 1963 and 1974. Oral histories were collected in 1996 by students at Eastern Mediterranean University in Turkish Cyprus.

In addition to these collected personal stories, the site provides some contemporary histories of Cyrpus from official sources within the governments of the US, UK, and the TRNC. These histories, reflecting the perspectives of the sources, focus on the circumstances leading to the division of the island between the Greek Cypriot South, and the Turkish Cypriot North.

The information in this site is intended to help visitors better understand the perspective of Turkish Cypriots in what has come to be known in the international community as "the Cyprus Issue." Cyprus today is a divided island; the world community officially recognizes the entire island as the Republic of Cyprus, with administration in what is essentially the Greek South. The Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus is recognized only by Turkey and is considered occupied territory by many Greek Cypriots.

When this site was launched in 1996, graphics were kept to a minimum and photos were reproduced in black and white to provide faster access for visitors from parts of the world with limited telecommunications infrastructure.

[phoenix]

Miltiades .... finally welcome to the real world of how corrupt the TCs have now become under the influence of the Turks ... they are not the "romanticised" versions you hold in your 1960 post-dated heart ...

[kafenes]

Zan, what you've posted is completely irelevent to this thread and Rafaella's question. Do you or don't you have a list of the 100 burnt down villages.

[polis]

some how to satisfy they are own ........ keep forcing us to talk about past.
they don't want talk about today. wanting evidance .......
UN's documents are full up. we can put some names....... only some.............

Kaymaklı
Tahtakale
Arpalık
Lapta
Kazafana
Vasilya
Ayvasıl
Yılmazkoy
Denya
Ayermola
Many villages at Paphos . Limasol and Larnaca discretes.
Girne
Arapköy

That's Kaimakli, Nicosia Old Town, Kazafani, Vasileia, Lapithos, Deneia, Kyrenia and Klepini (my father's village)? Do you guys have any clue what you are talking about? Now if you want to talk about villages being "burnt down", why don't you visit http://www.cyprus1974.org and look at the 200 or so villages ethnically cleansed by the turks (and their turkish cypriot allies) in 1974.

Here's the entry regarding Klepini:

"Klepini is a community of the occupied District of Keryneia.

Geographical Location: It lies 10 klm East of the town of Keryneia, on the northern slopes of the Pentadaktylos mountain range at a height of 220m.

Population: The 1960 population of this community consisted of 206 Greeks and 27 Turks. Its Greek population in 1973 was estimated at 173 and its Turkish population at 28.

Schools: The greek Primary School that operated here before the Turkish Invasion of 1974 had during the 1973-74 school year 13 students.

Effects of Turkish Invasion: During the Turkish Invasion of 1974 the community was taken over by the Turkish army and as a result the whole of its Greek population was displaced. Since then, the Turkish occupation forces and the illegal occupation authority prohibit their return."

[zan]

Miltiades old chap.......

"180. UNFICYP carried out a detailed survey of all damage to
properties throughout the island during the disturbances ... It
shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish Cypriot or mixed
villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2000 others have
suffered damage from looting."

"190. In addition to losses incurred in agriculture and in
industry during the first part of the year, the Turkish community
had lost other sources of its income ... The trade of the Turkish
community had considerably declined during the period, due to the
existing situation, and unemployment reached a very high level as
approximately 25,000 Turkish Cypriots had become refugees."
(S/5950, 10 September 1964)


Any idea what those highlighted mean...


I do like this thread though..........The more you guys deny what happened to us the more you make us unite......

[MR-from-NG]

Zan, what you've posted is completely irelevent to this thread and Rafaella's question. Do you or don't you have a list of the 100 burnt down villages.

The report clearly says 109 village's. What do you want Zan to do? Name them all?

And how is it "completely irrelevant" to what Rafaella asked

@Forget it Zan, its just not worth the effort with these guys.

[miltiades]

Miltiades .... finally welcome to the real world of how corrupt the TCs have now become under the influence of the Turks ... they are not the "romanticised" versions you hold in your 1960 post-dated heart ...

Phoenix , let me put you straight as exactly where I stand .
I do not consider the T/Cs as corrupt , on the contrary since I happen to know hundreds , not just one or two but hundreds , and in my personal and business life I have met ONE only T/C that I would call corrupt , a well known individual on the run from UK Justice. Now let me tell you that I have met a great deal more corrupt G/Cs including a Nicosia lawyer whom I had the misfortune of meeting . I attack any view that has as its sole purpose the partition of our island , therefore when I attack Zan's and VPs views I m not attacking them but ther partitionist views.Let me also state quite clearly that I consider the G/C fanatics along with the Greek junta as the main parties responsible for inviting Turkey to Cyprus.
Let me also state that I believe that the T/Cs DID suffer and DID have to run for their lives under the threat of extremists from mostly the G/C site . I know that the aim of their leadership was the partition of our island but I'm convinced that the extremists from the G/C side played in their hands.
What matters now is the creation of an atmosphere where good will , mutual respect and appreciation of each others concerns is of paramount importance not by proving and challenging views that have the opposite effect. I as an individual have build a tiny bridge that allows me to reach out and embrace my compatriots .Try it your self it might help the Cyprob , you current views and " attacks" are not the least constructive but rather damaging I would say !