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[repulsewarrior]

the denial on both sides of this divide disgusts me...

...but what do i know, i come from a "mixed" village.

[Get Real!]

the denial on both sides of this divide disgusts me...

...but what do i know, i come from a "mixed" village.

Did someone say "mixed" ???

Excuse me while I place an order...

[halil]

Almost all the Turkish Cypriots are visited their villages in south and they were all shocked .

have a look what was came out in those days in our press .

“Today, we are informed that the brick stones and doors of the houses Turkish Cypriots have abandoned in the South are being dismantled and sold. Following the opening of the crossing points in 2003, many Turkish Cypriots have crossed over hoping to visit their homes and properties in the south but unfortunately the only thing they experienced was disappointment. Some of the Turkish Cypriot villages are completely gone. The houses, graveyards, mosques, schools have all become ruins. Many villages have been destroyed. Had their names not been on the map, the visitors would have thought that those places were plain fields. Therefore, isolating the property issue from the Cyprus problem and launching it to the world as the problem of only the Greek Cypriots is nothing but cruelty”. Ercakica defined the activities of the Greek Cypriot side on this issue as an example of the fact how cruelly they exploit being recognized as “”the Republic of Cyprus” against the Turkish Cypriots.


THE DESTROYED TURKISH CYPRIOT VILLAGES IN THE SOUTH

The Adviser of the Political and Cultural Research Department of the TRNC Presidency Mr. Ahmet Okan stated that 30 Turkish Cypriot villages the Turkish Cypriots have abandoned since 1963, and mostly in 1974-1975, have completely been destroyed.

Referring to the news item issued in the Greek Cypriot press titled “The brick stones of the Turkish Cypriot houses in Tera village are being sold”, Mr. Okan said that since many Turkish Cypriot villages have become victims of such treatment, the said news item did not surprise them. He also distributed to the press the list of 30 Turkish Cypriot villages they have prepared within the frame work of the work they have been carrying out.

Saying that all cultural assets and houses in the villages included in the list have been destroyed, Mr. Okan added that “There is nothing left in the villages in terms of cultural assets”. He also said that in village of Tera, which used to be a village Greek and Turkish Cypriots lived together, the Greek Cypriots continue to reside in their houses whereas the Turkish Cypriot assets have all been destroyed. Responding to a question, Mr.Okan said that the work they have been carrying out regarding South Cyprus is mainly for the international community. He said that their purpose is to determine the current status of the issue and, warning the relevant authorities, enable some measures to be taken. Stating that their purpose is to renovate the cultural assets via this work, Mr. Okan stated that “Our purpose is not retaliation”.

LIST OF DESTROYED TURKISH VILLAGES

According to the information and documents distributed at the press briefing, the Turkish Cypriot villages destroyed in South Cyprus are as follows:

Larnaca; Esendağ (Pertrofan), Softalar, Paphos; Akkargı (Pitargu), Beşiktepe (Melendra), Dağaşan (Vretçça), Dereboyu (Evretu), Faslı, Gökçebel (Falya), Gündoğdu (Antriliku), Kervanyolu (Karamulliyes), Kurtağa, Kuşluca (Sarama), Olukönü (Lukurnu), Uluçam (Marona), Moronero, Susuz, Tabanlı (İstinco), Tatlıca (Zaharga), Uzunmeşe (Tremetusa), Yakacık (Magunda), Yuvalı (Prastyo), Limasol; Aşağı Kivides, Yerovası (Yerovasa), Lefkoşa; Alevkaya, Alifodez, Arpalık (Ay Sozomeno), Aybifan, Kurtboğan (Yukarı Kutrafa), Selçuklu, Yağmuralan (Vroisha).


General condition of Turkish Cypriots Mosques ,Cemeteries ,Tekkes and ancient tomps under the Greek Cypriots controlled Southern Part of the island.(in 171 regions)

Mosques:
In good condition:25
Destroyed:16
In bad condition:14
Neglected:47
Total:102

Cemeteries:
In good condition:3
Destroyed:43
In bad condition:93
Neglrcted:9
Total:148

Turkish Baths.
In good Condition:1
Destroyed:1
İn bad condition:5
Total:7

Fountains
İn good condition:1
destroyed:2
In bad condition:1
Total:4

Tekke-ancient Tombs
Destroyed:1
In bad condition:2
Neglected:1
Total:4


Houses and schools are not in this list .
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[Nikitas]

Famagusta- 15000 homes destroyed, looted, left to rot. That kind of makes the score definitely uneven.

[growuptcs]

halil, forget about your homes like you expect us to. Now stop posting such one-sided posts to support your criminal way to peace. How many times do we have to hear the criminal way to resolve this issue? Go fly a kite or something because your not needed here to post nonsense that only criminal-minded people with nothing to risk can relate to.

[samarkeolog]

Famagusta- 15000 homes destroyed, looted, left to rot.

Just checking, but does that 15,000 include the unfinished homes? And were they looted and left to rot (evacuated, like some Turkish Cypriot refugees' homes), or were they looted and destroyed (razed to the ground, like some other Turkish Cypriot refugees' homes)?

Whether they were left to rot or whether they were destroyed, it is awful, yes. Surely, that is why ordinary Cypriots should empathise with each other and show solidarity with each other against both communities' nationalist extremists? Ordinary Cypriots were not responsible for the destruction of Cypriot community. Criminals, who excused their crimes by claiming they were protecting their ethnic community, were responsible. It is only by open discussion of what both communities' nationalist extremists did to the other community and to their own that ordinary Cypriots will be able to rescue their community from division and distrust.

[Get Real!]

Right, I've just finished reading UN document S/5950 and this is a direct cut & paste of the section that some people were trying to make a point out of...

"UNFICYF' carried out a detailed survey of all damage to properties throughout the island during the disturbances, including the Tylliria fighting, It shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish Cypriot or mixed villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2,000 others have suffered damage from looting. In Ktima 38 houses and shops have been destroyed totally and 122 partially, In the Omorphita suburb of Nicosia 50 houses have been totally destroyed while a further 240 have been partially destroyed there and in adjacent suburbs."

Ok gents, I'm all ears so go for your life...

[Get Real!]

Some interesting observations in that document...

The fact that Turkish Cypriot police personnel have been wearing on their cap badges the national symbol of Turkey is regarded by the Government as evidence of their loyalty to a foreign country, justifying treatment of them as 'insurgents".

and further down...

193. The Government's new policy, as explained by the Greek Cypriot authorities, was a two-pronged one. First, it sought to afford facilities and protection to law-abiding Turkish Cypriots acknowledging the rule of the State, and secondly it was designed to deny all benefits of Government services to "Turkish terrorists" and sympathizers who rejected Government authority, The Government explained that it had to forbid the importation of certain supplies as they might be used to meet the needs of Turkish Cypriot fighters.

ABSOLUTELY!

What in God’s name were the TCs trying to achieve??? So, instead of debating and negotiating Makarios’ 13 points and perhaps even suggesting some of their own, the Turkish Cypriots saw fit to take up arms even though the Greek Cypriots were the 80% majority and had control of almost everything in the Cypriot infrastructure, and put themselves in these enclaves so they could then complain… “Oh look! I’ve just shot myself in the foot and now I don’t have bandages because the GCs won’t give me any and we’re not talking anyway!”

Only a complete fool would put himself in that position. How stupid can you possibly get???

If anything you should blame your stupid leaders who saw fit to place you in this daft predicament, not Makarios or anyone else!

Those who didn’t want to abide by the RoC should’ve been immediately transported to Turkey by the UN, instead of allowing these foolish renegades to flourish!


Regarding the Turkish pilot who was napalming Greek Cypriots and allegedly tortured once captured...

It was during this Turkish air strike that one of the Turkish jet aircraft blew up, in mid-air over Xeros q The pilot ejected himself from the plane and parachuted on Government controlled territory where he was taken prisoner. He V&S removed to a hospital in Nicosia where he later died. Through the good offices of UNFICYP, the pilot’s body was returned to Turkey.

Hmm.... personally I would've cut his balls off and fed them in his mouth since he thought that burning people from the safety of the air was a good idea... he is fucking lucky I wasn't around!

[Viewpoint]

Some interesting observations in that document...

The fact that Turkish Cypriot police personnel have been wearing on their cap badges the national symbol of Turkey is regarded by the Government as evidence of their loyalty to a foreign country, justifying treatment of them as 'insurgents".

and further down...

193. The Government's new policy, as explained by the Greek Cypriot authorities, was a two-pronged one. First, it sought to afford facilities and protection to law-abiding Turkish Cypriots acknowledging the rule of the State, and secondly it was designed to deny all benefits of Government services to "Turkish terrorists" and sympathizers who rejected Government authority, The Government explained that it had to forbid the importation of certain supplies as they might be used to meet the needs of Turkish Cypriot fighters.

ABSOLUTELY!

What in God’s name were the TCs trying to achieve??? So, instead of debating and negotiating Makarios’ 13 points and perhaps even suggesting some of their own, the Turkish Cypriots saw fit to take up arms even though the Greek Cypriots were the 80% majority and had control of almost everything in the Cypriot infrastructure, and put themselves in these enclaves so they could then complain… “Oh look! I’ve just shot myself in the foot and now I don’t have bandages because the GCs won’t give me any and we’re not talking anyway!”

Only a complete fool would put himself in that position. How stupid can you possibly get???

If anything you should blame your stupid leaders who saw fit to place you in this daft predicament, not Makarios or anyone else!

Those who didn’t want to abide by the RoC should’ve been immediately transported to Turkey by the UN, instead of allowing these foolish renegades to flourish!


Regarding the Turkish pilot who was napalming Greek Cypriots and allegedly tortured once captured...

It was during this Turkish air strike that one of the Turkish jet aircraft blew up, in mid-air over Xeros q The pilot ejected himself from the plane and parachuted on Government controlled territory where he was taken prisoner. He V&S removed to a hospital in Nicosia where he later died. Through the good offices of UNFICYP, the pilot’s body was returned to Turkey.

Hmm.... personally I would've cut his balls off and fed them in his mouth since he thought that burning people from the safety of the air was a good idea... he is fucking lucky I wasn't around!

So it was you? you barbarian.

[zan]

Right, I've just finished reading UN document S/5950 and this is a direct cut & paste of the section that some people were trying to make a point out of...

"UNFICYF' carried out a detailed survey of all damage to properties throughout the island during the disturbances, including the Tylliria fighting, It shows that in 109 villages, most of them Turkish Cypriot or mixed villages, 527 houses have been destroyed while 2,000 others have suffered damage from looting. In Ktima 38 houses and shops have been destroyed totally and 122 partially, In the Omorphita suburb of Nicosia 50 houses have been totally destroyed while a further 240 have been partially destroyed there and in adjacent suburbs."

Ok gents, I'm all ears so go for your life...

So Mr.GR You have been arguing against anything people have said and you have only just finished reading the document......What a F****G fake you are mate...Shot yourself in the foot yet again......You are a liability mate....Give it up!!!!!