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[DT.]

Again, sorry to be a pest, Halil, but here is a satellite image of Arıdamı/Artemi dated 2008. When I focus in on the village at the highest possible resolution, I can quite clearly see the walls of the abandoned buildings. Can you be sure that what we witness here is not simply the ravages of time on Cypriot village houses that have been abandoned for several decades?

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First of all, there is no way that that many buildings can so uniformly and so completely lose their roofs in this time (only two looks like it still has a roof and there are tens of ruins). You would see some that still had half a roof, or part of the roof. Second, you can see that there is absolutely nothing inside any of the buildings, which isn't natural. Third, you can see that many of the buildings have lost walls as well.

Fourth, if you look at the light, regular lines in the ground, you will see that they, too, show the outlines of buildings. They are where walls either on or under the surface have caused different soil conditions, so plants grow differently on top (either better, or worse, or not at all, etc.), so the colour difference shows the outline. Now, I would warn that they could be older buildings, but their outlines look the same as the other buildings', they fit within the other buildings of the village (none of them go under the other buildings, so the other buildings were not built later, on top of them), in fact most, if not all of them, are parallel to the other buildings. So, they used to be buildings in that village - and there is no natural way for them to disappear so completely...

If you're so eager to find destroyed villages, ask GR what happens when you hit a mudbrick village with napalm.

[halil]

Tim ,
I don't know what you are trying to prove me .... It is free now to go any where in Northern Cyprus . Just take your car and visit those places and see it .If it is there or not . Those 2 houses were used to keep animals in it now . this information is given to me by our technicians , they were around those villages again . doing test measurments about our DVB_T broadcasting .

And people of the village are settled in Kufez now . It was mixed village before 64 .

[bill cobbett]

May I urge fellow members to apply a little common sense when discussing what happens to the older style mud-built homes when they are abandoned.

It's a common practise to take away the re-usable parts of these buildings so that things like the slate/tiled roofs, the timber roof trusses, timber doors, windows and shutters, all of which are of value and re-usable would have been reclaimed for use elsewhere. Also very consistent with the hard times of the early '60s and in the years following the 74 Invasion. Need led to recycling.

Seen many examples of this happening to homes in villages in the Occupied North where the valuable, reusable bits have been taken from the older houses leaving just the unusable walls. Also saw this in a number of old abandoned tc hamlets a little way off the Paphos-Polis road.

All that's left are shells.

[kafenes]

May I urge fellow members to apply a little common sense when discussing what happens to the older style mud-built homes when they are abandoned.

It's a common practise to take away the re-usable parts of these buildings so that things like the slate/tiled roofs, the timber roof trusses, timber doors, windows and shutters, all of which are of value and re-usable would have been reclaimed for use elsewhere. Also very consistent with the hard times of the early '60s and in the years following the 74 Invasion. Need led to recycling.

Seen many examples of this happening to homes in villages in the Occupied North where the valuable, reusable bits have been taken from the older houses leaving just the unusable walls. Also saw this in a number of old abandoned tc hamlets a little way off the Paphos-Polis road.

All that's left are shells.

You mean like Famagusta?

[bill cobbett]

May I urge fellow members to apply a little common sense when discussing what happens to the older style mud-built homes when they are abandoned.

It's a common practise to take away the re-usable parts of these buildings so that things like the slate/tiled roofs, the timber roof trusses, timber doors, windows and shutters, all of which are of value and re-usable would have been reclaimed for use elsewhere. Also very consistent with the hard times of the early '60s and in the years following the 74 Invasion. Need led to recycling.

Seen many examples of this happening to homes in villages in the Occupied North where the valuable, reusable bits have been taken from the older houses leaving just the unusable walls. Also saw this in a number of old abandoned tc hamlets a little way off the Paphos-Polis road.

All that's left are shells.

You mean like Famagusta?

Certainly would have been very rich pickings there of course!

[denizaksulu]

May I urge fellow members to apply a little common sense when discussing what happens to the older style mud-built homes when they are abandoned.

It's a common practise to take away the re-usable parts of these buildings so that things like the slate/tiled roofs, the timber roof trusses, timber doors, windows and shutters, all of which are of value and re-usable would have been reclaimed for use elsewhere. Also very consistent with the hard times of the early '60s and in the years following the 74 Invasion. Need led to recycling.

Seen many examples of this happening to homes in villages in the Occupied North where the valuable, reusable bits have been taken from the older houses leaving just the unusable walls. Also saw this in a number of old abandoned tc hamlets a little way off the Paphos-Polis road.

All that's left are shells.

Some forumers may never have seen a mud brick / kerpic house ever. Townees would not have a clue. Left alone to the elements, a moderate size house would disappear within ten or 20 years if not regularly replastered or the roof not re-laid. I helped my grandfather do this a few times when I was a kid. We had our own cane plantation and we would help the 'roofer' tie the canes up like a mat and lay them on the beams. Then the mud/hay mixture was spread on top. Luckily the newer parts of our house had proper tiles, which lasted much longer.

[bill cobbett]

May I urge fellow members to apply a little common sense when discussing what happens to the older style mud-built homes when they are abandoned.

It's a common practise to take away the re-usable parts of these buildings so that things like the slate/tiled roofs, the timber roof trusses, timber doors, windows and shutters, all of which are of value and re-usable would have been reclaimed for use elsewhere. Also very consistent with the hard times of the early '60s and in the years following the 74 Invasion. Need led to recycling.

Seen many examples of this happening to homes in villages in the Occupied North where the valuable, reusable bits have been taken from the older houses leaving just the unusable walls. Also saw this in a number of old abandoned tc hamlets a little way off the Paphos-Polis road.

All that's left are shells.

Some forumers may never have seen a mud brick / kerpic house ever. Townees would not have a clue. Left alone to the elements, a moderate size house would disappear within ten or 20 years if not regularly replastered or the roof not re-laid. I helped my grandfather do this a few times when I was a kid. We had our own cane plantation and we would help the 'roofer' tie the canes up like a mat and lay them on the beams. Then the mud/hay mixture was spread on top. Luckily the newer parts of our house had proper tiles, which lasted much longer.

Thanks for that info. re the roof construction Deniz. Didn't know that, so very...well ..informative.

[denizaksulu]

May I urge fellow members to apply a little common sense when discussing what happens to the older style mud-built homes when they are abandoned.

It's a common practise to take away the re-usable parts of these buildings so that things like the slate/tiled roofs, the timber roof trusses, timber doors, windows and shutters, all of which are of value and re-usable would have been reclaimed for use elsewhere. Also very consistent with the hard times of the early '60s and in the years following the 74 Invasion. Need led to recycling.

Seen many examples of this happening to homes in villages in the Occupied North where the valuable, reusable bits have been taken from the older houses leaving just the unusable walls. Also saw this in a number of old abandoned tc hamlets a little way off the Paphos-Polis road.

All that's left are shells.

Some forumers may never have seen a mud brick / kerpic house ever. Townees would not have a clue. Left alone to the elements, a moderate size house would disappear within ten or 20 years if not regularly replastered or the roof not re-laid. I helped my grandfather do this a few times when I was a kid. We had our own cane plantation and we would help the 'roofer' tie the canes up like a mat and lay them on the beams. Then the mud/hay mixture was spread on top. Luckily the newer parts of our house had proper tiles, which lasted much longer.

Thanks for that info. re the roof construction Deniz. Didn't know that, so very...well ..informative.

Do I sense a bit of.................

its that the mention of the subject brought back memories.

[bill cobbett]

May I urge fellow members to apply a little common sense when discussing what happens to the older style mud-built homes when they are abandoned.

It's a common practise to take away the re-usable parts of these buildings so that things like the slate/tiled roofs, the timber roof trusses, timber doors, windows and shutters, all of which are of value and re-usable would have been reclaimed for use elsewhere. Also very consistent with the hard times of the early '60s and in the years following the 74 Invasion. Need led to recycling.

Seen many examples of this happening to homes in villages in the Occupied North where the valuable, reusable bits have been taken from the older houses leaving just the unusable walls. Also saw this in a number of old abandoned tc hamlets a little way off the Paphos-Polis road.

All that's left are shells.

Some forumers may never have seen a mud brick / kerpic house ever. Townees would not have a clue. Left alone to the elements, a moderate size house would disappear within ten or 20 years if not regularly replastered or the roof not re-laid. I helped my grandfather do this a few times when I was a kid. We had our own cane plantation and we would help the 'roofer' tie the canes up like a mat and lay them on the beams. Then the mud/hay mixture was spread on top. Luckily the newer parts of our house had proper tiles, which lasted much longer.

Thanks for that info. re the roof construction Deniz. Didn't know that, so very...well ..informative.

Do I sense a bit of.................

its that the mention of the subject brought back memories.

...not in the least mate. I thought your post was genuinely informative.

[repulsewarrior]

...ironically, mud houses are the healthiest to live in.