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Postby insan » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:28 pm

Andrik wrote:U mean citizens of the world based on a notion of an era of globalisation??


Yes Andrik. The notion of world citizenship. Globalism and regionalism hand in hand are going through one world government. Empire of human beings. Regional administrative units.

Turkey-Greece and Cyprus are in the same regional administrative unit. They are struggling for the leadership of the region. If Cyprus becomes under full control of GC leadership, Greece will have a very powerful trump card to be the leader of the region. On the other hand a politically equal TC community is sufficient for Turkey to easily take the leadership of the region with its huge military power, cultural/religous factors related with middle east and rich economical resources.

In any case; Turkey, Greece and Cyprus should genuinely come closer to compromise on their common interests. They should strenghten their damaged relationships and restore it on a genuine friendship.

In this regional administrative unit; the working classes of Cyprus should struggle against corrupt politicians and greedy capitalists to protect the rights of working classes.

Political equality of two communities is a must. Let them start two politically equal partner. Their social, political, economical, psychological and influential external dynamics will lead them to the right place they wish. The ability of cooperation, respect and compromise unite; inability of cooperation, respect and compromise divide.
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Postby Andrik » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:21 am

insan wrote:
Andrik wrote:U mean citizens of the world based on a notion of an era of globalisation??


Yes Andrik. The notion of world citizenship. Globalism and regionalism hand in hand are going through one world government. Empire of human beings. Regional administrative units.

Turkey-Greece and Cyprus are in the same regional administrative unit. They are struggling for the leadership of the region. If Cyprus becomes under full control of GC leadership, Greece will have a very powerful trump card to be the leader of the region. On the other hand a politically equal TC community is sufficient for Turkey to easily take the leadership of the region with its huge military power, cultural/religous factors related with middle east and rich economical resources.

In any case; Turkey, Greece and Cyprus should genuinely come closer to compromise on their common interests. They should strenghten their damaged relationships and restore it on a genuine friendship.

In this regional administrative unit; the working classes of Cyprus should struggle against corrupt politicians and greedy capitalists to protect the rights of working classes.

Political equality of two communities is a must. Let them start two politically equal partner. Their social, political, economical, psychological and influential external dynamics will lead them to the right place they wish. The ability of cooperation, respect and compromise unite; inability of cooperation, respect and compromise divide.

I am doing my Masters degree right now at the University of Warwick! My course is called "Globalisation and Development" and the centre for globalisation and regionalisation at Warwick is probably the best in Europe (if not the world). In other words chances are I know more about globalisation than anyone in this forum and I am sorry to tell you that YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!
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Postby brother » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:37 am

So why do you not enlighten us if you know so much?
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Postby insan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 10:53 am

brother wrote:So why do you not enlighten us if you know so much?



Yes, Andrik. why don't you enlighten us with your academic knowledge about regionalism and globalism. It took you 24 hours to reply my post. I think you checked your lecture notes and books.
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Postby insan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 11:30 am

Telò, Mario (ed.), (2001) European Union and New Regionalism. Regional Actors and Global Governance in a Post-hegemonic Era. Aldershot, Ashgate.


http://antibaro.gr/national/kentas_cuprys.php
http://www.unu.edu/unupress/globalism.html
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Postby insan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 12:38 pm

I am doing my Masters degree right now at the University of Warwick! My course is called "Globalisation and Development" and the centre for globalisation and regionalisation at Warwick is probably the best in Europe (if not the world). In other words chances are I know more about globalisation than anyone in this forum and I am sorry to tell you that YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA OF WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!



Are you on holiday in cyprus or doing your Masters degree. Aha you are doing your Masters degree.
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Postby Andrik » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:37 pm

Whatever! Believe what you like..at the end of the year when they post the names of those who get the degree on the Warwick website you can check it as many times as you like!


On the other hand it is so amusing watching you "lecturing" about the subject that I have no intention of stopping you! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby Andrik » Wed Apr 06, 2005 3:41 pm

insan wrote:Telò, Mario (ed.), (2001) European Union and New Regionalism. Regional Actors and Global Governance in a Post-hegemonic Era. Aldershot, Ashgate.


http://antibaro.gr/national/kentas_cuprys.php
http://www.unu.edu/unupress/globalism.html

By the way, dont give me links and references!
The most renowned lecturer/academic on the subject of the notion of a "Global Civi Society" is my tutor! Jan Aart Scholte..feel free to use google!

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http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q= ... te&spell=1
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Postby insan » Wed Apr 06, 2005 4:12 pm

Jan Aart Scholte: For me, the most helpful and distinctive way of thinking about globalization is as a process of increasing transplanetary connections between people. By 'transplanetary', I mean a situation in which people anywhere on the planet may have quite direct connections with each other, no matter where on earth they may happen to be located. This restricted meaning, I think, helps us to capture what is characteristically 'global' about globalization.

So often, as you just mentioned, 'globalization' gets conflated with other notions and other terms that, although important, we actually have other vocabulary to cover. Thus, globalization is not simply about 'international' relations between territorial units such as nation-states. Similarly, it is not intrinsically about policies of economic liberalization; nor is it the same as Americanization or westernization. All of these other attributes can be connected to globalization, but the process of globalization itself is about increasing connections between people on a transworld basis.





Jan Aart Scholte: As a move towards small-scale social organization, localization strikes me as sensible and democratizing. In small-scale structures, people have better chances of contact, communication, access, and control. That said, I wouldn't want to romanticize the local. You can have local mafias; similarly, your local bureaucrat can be just as distant, untransparent, and authoritarian as an IMF official in Washington, DC. There is nothing holy about the local.

Another caution is that, in a globalizing world, there is no way we can reduce the process of governance to local governance alone. We need coordination across wider spaces than the local in order to address issues like climate change, global health issues, global migration flows, global money flows, global financial flows, and global trade. Although some of the implementation and adjustment of global and regional rules can be made at local level in line with local circumstances, we can't ultimately have a world without substantial global and regional regulation existing alongside national and local governance. By all means, we should try to make everything as local as possible, but we should not see the local as a panacea or believe that everything local by definition will be good.

As a footnote to this, we also perhaps need to rethink what we actually mean by "local". In a globalizing world, where we can be in very immediate contact with other people and places on the earth through the internet, telecommunications, air travel and more, we might conceive of the local as a form of small group solidarity that is expressed through connections other than those based on simply having dwellings in the same district. Indeed, we might come to a supra-territorial or non-territorial notion of locality, premised upon the solidarities between people who have commonalities in terms of their disability, their gender, their hobbies, or other nonterritorial bases for identity and community. In this way, we might think of the local itself in deterritorialized terms.



I liked the views of Scholte.






Professor Jan Aart Scholte

The relationship between globalisation and capitalism to which you referred is important. Capitalism is a significant causal factor in the globalisation process, but it will not determine the political framework we must adopt in relation to globalisation. I would therefore draw a major distinction between globalisation as a factor for social change and liberalisation, which is actually a policy adopted in relation to globalisation. A great number of forms of globalisation are possible: neo-liberalism, world social democracy, central planning and so on.

Your comment on territorial roots is perfectly valid and also covers the re-territorialisation to which I referred and which accompanies globalisation. In certain respects, globalisation will abolish sovereign states' monopoly of governance, because there are now all these interchanges that prevent states from exercising their former absolute and central control. This has created much more opportunity for sub-national and supra-national governance, and the identities that accompany them.



Very interesting indeed. Almost proves what I've put forward about regionalism and globalism.



Professor Jan Aart Scholte

Globalisation is both a continuous phenomenon and a change over time and I hope that my contribution did have a historical dimension, though perhaps the long-term perspective was lacking. My conclusion finally was that, over the long term, the qualitative difference in geographical structuring is striking. In the 1940s, supraterritorial relationships did not exist. I therefore believe that there is a form of continuity and that mixing the continuity of territoriality and territorial identities with the emergence of new territorial identities is the right approach.



Congratz!

And thanks Andrik :lol: :lol:
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Postby Andrik » Wed Apr 06, 2005 5:09 pm

All that is nice and hopefull! But you havent chatted with him in private have you :o :o :o
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