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by **insan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 6:29 pm

In How Can Europe Survive, noted free market economist Professor Hans Sennholz, in a piercing critique of the coming European Union, discloses, from the close of World War II through 1953 the United States government poured more than $43 billion dollars through the Marshall Plan, and other “reconstruction programs, into Europe. These were to him, “a windfall for socialism.” For along with the money, came not pressures to “abolish controls and return to sounder principles of government,” but rather to foster controls and centralization at every turn.

Professor Michael J. Hogan, in his work “The Marshall Plan,” concurred with Sennholz: “Through American aid...Marshall Planners tried to underwrite industrial modernization projects, promote Keynesian strategies of aggregate economic management (Keynes was a Fabian socialist), [and]...encourage progressive tax policies (the communist graduated income tax), low-cost housing programs, and other measures of economic and social reform.”

This is in part the agenda of NATO. It’s long term goal was to work hand in hand with the Marshall plan to forge a united Europe and later a united Atlantic along socialistic lines. Today, NATO continues to foster a European dependency upon the United States and is thus still subject to the less than pro free enterprise, less than pro- U.S. sovereignty leanings of our State Department.

The 50 year goal of creating a European Union, has been completed, Europe is drenched in socialism, as planned, and Yugoslavia, thanks to our participation in a war which didn’t involve us, will no doubt be forced into the union, as a very much less than sovereign member, for security sake.

And you can’t help but wonder, how long until America experiences the same fate?

http://www.usiap.org/Viewpoints/Zhold/N ... ries2.html

It seems AKEL is serving for the interests of US but is not aware of it. Or actually AKEL is not a communist party(even socialist) anymore. Perhaps the only thing Akel cares about is the national cause of Hellenes and how to stay in power in order to grab more.

by **insan** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 7:10 pm

Maria Hadjipavlou-Trigeorgis, a Greek Cypriot, was speaking of her work to bridge the divide between the Greek and Turkish Cypriot communities on Cyprus. Together with Turkish Cypriot activists like Sevgul Uludag, several thousand Cypriots have been trained in conflict resolution skills during the past few years.

http://www.gppac.net/documents/pbp/4/3_iforsw.htm

Do you know that they were trained by US?

TURKISH Bananiot journalist Sevgul Uludag has written a book about the missing, which was launched last weekend. As with most people who write books about Cyprus, she tried to flog a few dozen to the Public Information Office, which buys almost anything. She was politely told that the PIO would not be buying any of her books because she had been critical of the President of the Government of the Cyprus Republic. I bet the PIO had no problem buying a few hundred copies of the latest scholarly work by Professor Andreas Theophanous, as he was careful not to include any criticism of our omniscient leader.

http://www.cyprus-mail.com/news/main.ph ... 0&cat_id=7

by **MicAtCyp** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:24 pm

Insan do you deny the fact that the regime in the north is targetting journalists?

by **pantelis** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:06 am

http://www.ifex.org/en/content/view/full/256/

by **insan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 3:48 am

by **pantelis** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:11 am

Insan, we only care about what has to do with Cyprus.
Not Geece, nor Turkey.
http://www.ifex.org/en/content/view/full/193/

by **insan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 4:34 am

pantelis wrote:Insan, we only care about what has to do with Cyprus.
Not Geece, nor Turkey.
http://www.ifex.org/en/content/view/full/193/

One way or another they dug their own hole, Pantelis. There was more than one actor in this game. Provocateurs, pawns and victims. Provocateurs and the pawns trained by provocaturs won. The so-called nationalist pawns and victims lost. I'm sad about the victims. There are also pawns that were not trained by provocateurs but participate in this game unconsciously. This game can be played wherever it is required. Today in Cyprus tomorrow elsewhere.

Btw, the name of the game is "End of Nation States, Born of Emperor of Globe" aka globalization or new world order or regional feuds.

by **pantelis** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 5:32 am

Dearest S-Insan,
Cyprus has always been a “globalized” piece of property. Who ever need it, could have it. We have "changed hands" throughout our history but we always managed to remain intact. The Cypriots have adjusted and changed as necessary, through the ages, in order to survive the hardships that the long series of conquerors have imported and imposed on the Cypriot people.
Every conqueror that arrived and passed from the island has left behind him some characteristics that contributed in the formation of the uniqueness of the Cypriot people. These characteristics are evident in our language/dialect, in the names of the people and places, in our food, in our music and arts in general. This is who we are and this how we ended up the way we are. Cyprus was/is located at the center of the globe, therefore our globalization comes natural.
The secret, which we have learned through our history, is not to fight this "globalization", but to survive it, and if possible, find a way to "enjoy" it.
Our recent history is proof that we have failed to put in practice what our ancestors have mastered throughout the centuries. We attempted to deny our Cypriot Identity and tried to adopt the identities of foreign peoples, Turkish and Greek. The result of this attempt......grand failure!
Is it too late to pick up the pieces and re-create our Cypriot identity?
I hope not.

by **insan** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 11:02 am

The secret, which we have learned through our history, is not to fight this "globalization", but to survive it, and if possible, find a way to "enjoy" it.

Dear Pantelis, the fact is that majority of TCs also want or were obliged to enjoy it but not exactly in the way you want it to enjoy.

Our recent history is proof that we have failed to put in practice what our ancestors have mastered throughout the centuries. We attempted to deny our Cypriot Identity and tried to adopt the identities of foreign peoples, Turkish and Greek.

Ultra nationalist(actually self-interest groups) played the killjoy in this game and they betrayed the masters. Masters of globe believe that everything will be settled by itself through the end of a civil war. However the conditions of civil war must be just or at least balanced for both sides. If it is not just or balanced for both sides, people look for outside alliances to get protection against the other side of the civil war. The first group got out of control in this game is Grivasites. Grivasites confused the interests of global master with the interests of Hellenic masters. Ultra nationalists or National fascists cannot be the pawns of master of the globe. When Grivasites play the killjoy; master of our region as one of the most important actor of the game in our region was obliged to change the rules of the game. The name of the game of the Grivasites was Hellenization. In order to keep the balance, master of the region initiated Turkification. Master of globe only interfered when needed. Master of globe usually watched it and be careful not the game go out of its control. Because they believe that things will be settled by itself through a just and balanced civil war.

The result of this attempt......grand failure!
Is it too late to pick up the pieces and re-create our Cypriot identity?
I hope not.

I think we don't need a Cypriot identity anymore. The new identity of the people of Cyprus should be the citizens of world. Human beings of the world living in Cyprus. Being the citizens of world does not mean losing the sub identities such as Cypriotness, Greek Cypriotness, Turkish Cypriotness etc. It's up to the people of Cyprus to create any kind of sub-identity compatible with age of globalism.

by **Andrik** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 2:00 pm

U mean citizens of the world based on a notion of an era of globalisation??

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