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the invisable sheild

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are you grateful UN troops are here?

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the invisable sheild

Postby repulsewarrior » Wed Feb 06, 2008 10:43 pm

Much has been said about the Turkish Army, as an occupying force and as a 'saviour' to the Turkish Cypriot people. Little violence exists between them, and their counterparts, Greek Cypriots, for which many give it credit. Beside the nature of Cypriots as a people, toward respect and inclusiveness, there is i believe one other interlocutor that we should have gratititude, whether we are Turcophone or Grecophone, and those are the troops of the UN, who are 'our' witness. Without them, surely the fanatics that still prowl among us would sway, with the bloodshead which follows.

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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:09 pm

i voted no because if they are not here to make the turks leave cyprus then they are doing no good here they just stand around doing nothing
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Postby umit07 » Wed Feb 06, 2008 11:11 pm

I never have seen the UN peace keeping force doing anything on the island, I always thought of it as a scam so the soldiers get paid serious cash while they live like bloody tourists. But then again their presence doesn't bother me as long as I'm not paying their holiday money.
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Re: the invisable sheild

Postby zan » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:12 am

repulsewarrior wrote:Much has been said about the Turkish Army, as an occupying force and as a 'saviour' to the Turkish Cypriot people. Little violence exists between them, and their counterparts, Greek Cypriots, for which many give it credit. Beside the nature of Cypriots as a people, toward respect and inclusiveness, there is i believe one other interlocutor that we should have gratititude, whether we are Turcophone or Grecophone, and those are the troops of the UN, who are 'our' witness. Without them, surely the fanatics that still prowl among us would sway, with the bloodshead which follows.

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THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECOGNITION OF THE GCS AS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ON THE ISLAND. sorry for the capitals but the loch was on....My brother remembers them standing and watching as Sampson rounded up the people in Kucuk Kaymakli and imprison the women and shoot the men....Fat lot of good they have been....
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Re: the invisable sheild

Postby DT. » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:24 am

zan wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Much has been said about the Turkish Army, as an occupying force and as a 'saviour' to the Turkish Cypriot people. Little violence exists between them, and their counterparts, Greek Cypriots, for which many give it credit. Beside the nature of Cypriots as a people, toward respect and inclusiveness, there is i believe one other interlocutor that we should have gratititude, whether we are Turcophone or Grecophone, and those are the troops of the UN, who are 'our' witness. Without them, surely the fanatics that still prowl among us would sway, with the bloodshead which follows.

Your comments, thank-you.


THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECOGNITION OF THE GCS AS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ON THE ISLAND. sorry for the capitals but the loch was on....My brother remembers them standing and watching as Sampson rounded up the people in Kucuk Kaymakli and imprison the women and shoot the men....Fat lot of good they have been....


a bit like they were standing around when Isaak and SOlomou were getting killed by the grey wolves and tc police in front of the worlds cameras.
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Postby denizaksulu » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:27 am

paliometoxo wrote:i voted no because if they are not here to make the turks leave cyprus then they are doing no good here they just stand around doing nothing


The UN Forces were exactly the same between the years 1963 - 1974. They were incapable of protecting anyone during those terrible years when the GC goverment had no control over the Eoka attacks on TC enclaves. Oh, I do beg your pardon. They did use their helicopters a lot. They were good at locating murdered Turkish Cypriot villagers and ferrying their bodies to the besieged TC controlled areas of Nicosia.

So nothing has changed then.
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Re: the invisable sheild

Postby zan » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:28 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Much has been said about the Turkish Army, as an occupying force and as a 'saviour' to the Turkish Cypriot people. Little violence exists between them, and their counterparts, Greek Cypriots, for which many give it credit. Beside the nature of Cypriots as a people, toward respect and inclusiveness, there is i believe one other interlocutor that we should have gratititude, whether we are Turcophone or Grecophone, and those are the troops of the UN, who are 'our' witness. Without them, surely the fanatics that still prowl among us would sway, with the bloodshead which follows.

Your comments, thank-you.


THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECOGNITION OF THE GCS AS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ON THE ISLAND. sorry for the capitals but the loch was on....My brother remembers them standing and watching as Sampson rounded up the people in Kucuk Kaymakli and imprison the women and shoot the men....Fat lot of good they have been....


a bit like they were standing around when Isaak and SOlomou were getting killed by the grey wolves and tc police in front of the worlds cameras.


Did not quite make up for 300 men in one go but then that is about as useful as they turned up to be......


Sorry...Don't want this tit for tat business again...Went on for hours last night.... :evil: :evil:
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Re: the invisable sheild

Postby DT. » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:31 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Much has been said about the Turkish Army, as an occupying force and as a 'saviour' to the Turkish Cypriot people. Little violence exists between them, and their counterparts, Greek Cypriots, for which many give it credit. Beside the nature of Cypriots as a people, toward respect and inclusiveness, there is i believe one other interlocutor that we should have gratititude, whether we are Turcophone or Grecophone, and those are the troops of the UN, who are 'our' witness. Without them, surely the fanatics that still prowl among us would sway, with the bloodshead which follows.

Your comments, thank-you.


THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECOGNITION OF THE GCS AS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ON THE ISLAND. sorry for the capitals but the loch was on....My brother remembers them standing and watching as Sampson rounded up the people in Kucuk Kaymakli and imprison the women and shoot the men....Fat lot of good they have been....


a bit like they were standing around when Isaak and SOlomou were getting killed by the grey wolves and tc police in front of the worlds cameras.


Did not quite make up for 300 men in one go but then that is about as useful as they turned up to be......


Sorry...Don't want this tit for tat business again...Went on for hours last night.... :evil: :evil:

a comment like the one above basically says that the UN was only unfair to TC's being killed and not when GC's were being killed.

Tit for tat is all that happens around here because we aren't require to think as much when doing it.

When we raise the level of discussion around here I'll be right there with you.
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Re: the invisable sheild

Postby zan » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:34 am

DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Much has been said about the Turkish Army, as an occupying force and as a 'saviour' to the Turkish Cypriot people. Little violence exists between them, and their counterparts, Greek Cypriots, for which many give it credit. Beside the nature of Cypriots as a people, toward respect and inclusiveness, there is i believe one other interlocutor that we should have gratititude, whether we are Turcophone or Grecophone, and those are the troops of the UN, who are 'our' witness. Without them, surely the fanatics that still prowl among us would sway, with the bloodshead which follows.

Your comments, thank-you.


THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECOGNITION OF THE GCS AS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ON THE ISLAND. sorry for the capitals but the loch was on....My brother remembers them standing and watching as Sampson rounded up the people in Kucuk Kaymakli and imprison the women and shoot the men....Fat lot of good they have been....


a bit like they were standing around when Isaak and SOlomou were getting killed by the grey wolves and tc police in front of the worlds cameras.


Did not quite make up for 300 men in one go but then that is about as useful as they turned up to be......


Sorry...Don't want this tit for tat business again...Went on for hours last night.... :evil: :evil:

a comment like the one above basically says that the UN was only unfair to TC's being killed and not when GC's were being killed.

Tit for tat is all that happens around here because we aren't require to think as much when doing it.

When we raise the level of discussion around here I'll be right there with you.


When everything we say is dismissed without a thought DT then things turn silly. I am with you when and IF the mentality gets to a point that our plight and the facts are accepted...I am not holding my breath on that one though but ever hopeful....
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Re: the invisable sheild

Postby DT. » Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:40 am

zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
DT. wrote:
zan wrote:
repulsewarrior wrote:Much has been said about the Turkish Army, as an occupying force and as a 'saviour' to the Turkish Cypriot people. Little violence exists between them, and their counterparts, Greek Cypriots, for which many give it credit. Beside the nature of Cypriots as a people, toward respect and inclusiveness, there is i believe one other interlocutor that we should have gratititude, whether we are Turcophone or Grecophone, and those are the troops of the UN, who are 'our' witness. Without them, surely the fanatics that still prowl among us would sway, with the bloodshead which follows.

Your comments, thank-you.


THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR RECOGNITION OF THE GCS AS THE ONLY GOVERNMENT ON THE ISLAND. sorry for the capitals but the loch was on....My brother remembers them standing and watching as Sampson rounded up the people in Kucuk Kaymakli and imprison the women and shoot the men....Fat lot of good they have been....


a bit like they were standing around when Isaak and SOlomou were getting killed by the grey wolves and tc police in front of the worlds cameras.


Did not quite make up for 300 men in one go but then that is about as useful as they turned up to be......


Sorry...Don't want this tit for tat business again...Went on for hours last night.... :evil: :evil:

a comment like the one above basically says that the UN was only unfair to TC's being killed and not when GC's were being killed.

Tit for tat is all that happens around here because we aren't require to think as much when doing it.

When we raise the level of discussion around here I'll be right there with you.


When everything we say is dismissed without a thought DT then things turn silly. I am with you when and IF the mentality gets to a point that our plight and the facts are accepted...I am not holding my breath on that one though but ever hopeful....


your plight was in the past....(and the fact that both communities suffered it is arguable) Our plight is now, my home is held now. WHen is our plight going to be understood by you?
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