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[halil]

TDP LEADER CAKICI CRITISIZES PRESIDENT FOR REMARKS ON REUNIFICATION.
The leader of the Communal Democracy Party Mehmet Cakici has criticized a remark made by President Mehmet Ali Talat stating that reunification was not a divine decree.

In a statement issued today, the TDP leader reminded that the political will put forward by the Turkish Cypriot people during the 2004 referendum was for a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on the political equality of the two sides.


Stating that President Talat had been chosen to represent the Turkish Cypriot people on the basis of that political will, Cakici called on President Talat to respect and work towards achieving the Turkish Cypriot Peoples’ desire to achieve a federal solution to the Cyprus Problem.

[Kikapu]

bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on the political equality of the two sides.

But of course this is a better option to the TC's than a "Clean cut Partiton".

Who is going to pay for all the clean up otherwise and also be at the mercy of Turkey forever from now on, and the "TRNC" may not even ever become a EU member along with Turkey as a result of a "clean break".

No, I agree with him. What Talat said is a bad idea for the TC's.

[halil]

bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on the political equality of the two sides.

But of course this is a better option to the TC's than a "Clean cut Partiton".

Who is going to pay for all the clean up otherwise and also be at the mercy of Turkey forever from now on, and the "TRNC" may not even ever become a EU member along with Turkey as a result of a "clean break".

No, I agree with him. What Talat said is a bad idea for the TC's.

Talat also saying same things Kikapu,
He also says we are not going to wait another 40 years more or more years .The policies of the GC's side drives us for partitions .
our hand is still on the air this words were from Ferdi as well dated 25 january ,Kikapu.
İ have to go for meeting in ten minutes.i will write down what he was saying for you . latter on.
keep following .

[halil]

bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on the political equality of the two sides.

But of course this is a better option to the TC's than a "Clean cut Partiton".

Who is going to pay for all the clean up otherwise and also be at the mercy of Turkey forever from now on, and the "TRNC" may not even ever become a EU member along with Turkey as a result of a "clean break".

No, I agree with him. What Talat said is a bad idea for the TC's.

Talat also saying same things Kikapu,
He also says we are not going to wait another 40 years more or more years .The policies of the GC's side drives us for partitions .
our hand is still on the air this words were from Ferdi as well dated 25 january ,Kikapu.
İ have to go for meeting in ten minutes.i will write down what he was saying for you . latter on.
keep following .

Ferdi sends a warm messages to future Greek Cypriot Leader.

WE WAİT WİTH OUTSTRECHED HAND.
The Turkish Cypriot people wait with their hands outstreched in a sprit of peace.The time has come for you to clasp those hands.For the last four years , we have been waiting for a leader to appear and shake the TURKİSH CYPRİOT PEOPLE'S hands .

Ferdi says: No one can remove the 1960 treaty of alliance and guarantees or take retrograde step from them.The Turkish Cypriot people need the 1960 Treaty of alliance and guarantees.All the proposals for solutions presented to this day that is the Cuella documents,the Gali set of ideas and finally the Annan plan have confirmed and documented these treaties.NO one can nullify those arguments.
The Turkish Cypriot side is more prepared for a solution than it was in 2004.We have made great improvements , both economically and in our adminstration since than.If we come close to finding a settlement a long the above paramitters i have metioned . İ believe that Turkish Cypriot support , which was previously 65% will rise to over 80%.

[BC Numismatics]

Halil,Talat isn't even a legitimate President.Tassos Papadopoulos is the legitimate President of all Cyprus.

Aidan.

[Kikapu]

bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on the political equality of the two sides.

But of course this is a better option to the TC's than a "Clean cut Partiton".

Who is going to pay for all the clean up otherwise and also be at the mercy of Turkey forever from now on, and the "TRNC" may not even ever become a EU member along with Turkey as a result of a "clean break".

No, I agree with him. What Talat said is a bad idea for the TC's.

Talat also saying same things Kikapu,
He also says we are not going to wait another 40 years more or more years .The policies of the GC's side drives us for partitions .
our hand is still on the air this words were from Ferdi as well dated 25 january ,Kikapu.
İ have to go for meeting in ten minutes.i will write down what he was saying for you . latter on.
keep following .

Halil,

I think you have missed some of my points.....they were very subtle, I admit.

What Talat, the TC's and Turkey wants is a BBF, but not a True Federation. He wants all the provisions in the 1960 Constitution that are advantages to the TC's but at the same time, maintain Northern Cyprus as a "True TC state", with it's own laws, much like a Confederate State, or as Kifeas calls it "Virgin Birth TC State", without even allowing all of the GC's refugees to ever go back to their homes or land, and limiting their rights. When Talat talks about "reunification was not a divine decree", he is just bluffing to make believe, that he may push for a "clean break partition". Hasn't that already been tried since 1983 with the "Declaration of Independence of the TRNC", and where has it gotten the TC's.???

No Halil, Talat wants a BBF that gives us all the political rights Domestically and Internationally, and at the same time, live as if the North Cyprus is a separate state (country) from the rest of the island. Not a bad deal if we can get it. That's exactly what Annan Plan was all about and that was the reason why it was voted down by 75% of the GC's and surprisingly, it was ONLY approved by 65% TC's. Did the remaining 35% actually expected more than what was offered in the AP.?? If Talat wants all the provisions of the 1960 Constitution, then there can be no North and South states. We will once again have "just" Cyprus back and everyone goes back to their own towns and villages, if they so wish to do so, and if not, they still remain of their own properties where ever they may be in any part of Cyprus. Once all Cypriots have sorted out their lives, then we can talk about the fate of all the "Aliens" on the island afterwards, as to if and how they will fit into the Cypriot Society..

[DT.]

bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on the political equality of the two sides.

But of course this is a better option to the TC's than a "Clean cut Partiton".

Who is going to pay for all the clean up otherwise and also be at the mercy of Turkey forever from now on, and the "TRNC" may not even ever become a EU member along with Turkey as a result of a "clean break".

No, I agree with him. What Talat said is a bad idea for the TC's.

Talat also saying same things Kikapu,
He also says we are not going to wait another 40 years more or more years .The policies of the GC's side drives us for partitions .
our hand is still on the air this words were from Ferdi as well dated 25 january ,Kikapu.
İ have to go for meeting in ten minutes.i will write down what he was saying for you . latter on.
keep following .

Ferdi sends a warm messages to future Greek Cypriot Leader.

WE WAİT WİTH OUTSTRECHED HAND.
The Turkish Cypriot people wait with their hands outstreched in a sprit of peace.The time has come for you to clasp those hands.For the last four years , we have been waiting for a leader to appear and shake the TURKİSH CYPRİOT PEOPLE'S hands .

Ferdi says: No one can remove the 1960 treaty of alliance and guarantees or take retrograde step from them.The Turkish Cypriot people need the 1960 Treaty of alliance and guarantees.All the proposals for solutions presented to this day that is the Cuella documents,the Gali set of ideas and finally the Annan plan have confirmed and documented these treaties.NO one can nullify those arguments.
The Turkish Cypriot side is more prepared for a solution than it was in 2004.We have made great improvements , both economically and in our adminstration since than.If we come close to finding a settlement a long the above paramitters i have metioned . İ believe that Turkish Cypriot support , which was previously 65% will rise to over 80%.

Hello Halil,

I have to note that the only side talking about the 1960 Constuitution and all its appendices being null has been the Turkish side with words (non-recognition of the ROC and actions (1974 invasion-occupation).

We cannot disregard the entire constitution and then choose one of its appendices and claim that this is still valid. Is the 1960 constitution valid ot not? If it is then Turkey is in violaion of it by occupying its territory, if its not then there is no treaty of gaurantee.

Ferdi needs to choose.

[halil]

bi-zonal, bi-communal federation based on the political equality of the two sides.

But of course this is a better option to the TC's than a "Clean cut Partiton".

Who is going to pay for all the clean up otherwise and also be at the mercy of Turkey forever from now on, and the "TRNC" may not even ever become a EU member along with Turkey as a result of a "clean break".

No, I agree with him. What Talat said is a bad idea for the TC's.

Talat also saying same things Kikapu,
He also says we are not going to wait another 40 years more or more years .The policies of the GC's side drives us for partitions .
our hand is still on the air this words were from Ferdi as well dated 25 january ,Kikapu.
İ have to go for meeting in ten minutes.i will write down what he was saying for you . latter on.
keep following .

Ferdi sends a warm messages to future Greek Cypriot Leader.

WE WAİT WİTH OUTSTRECHED HAND.
The Turkish Cypriot people wait with their hands outstreched in a sprit of peace.The time has come for you to clasp those hands.For the last four years , we have been waiting for a leader to appear and shake the TURKİSH CYPRİOT PEOPLE'S hands .

Ferdi says: No one can remove the 1960 treaty of alliance and guarantees or take retrograde step from them.The Turkish Cypriot people need the 1960 Treaty of alliance and guarantees.All the proposals for solutions presented to this day that is the Cuella documents,the Gali set of ideas and finally the Annan plan have confirmed and documented these treaties.NO one can nullify those arguments.
The Turkish Cypriot side is more prepared for a solution than it was in 2004.We have made great improvements , both economically and in our adminstration since than.If we come close to finding a settlement a long the above paramitters i have metioned . İ believe that Turkish Cypriot support , which was previously 65% will rise to over 80%.

Hello Halil,

I have to note that the only side talking about the 1960 Constuitution and all its appendices being null has been the Turkish side with words (non-recognition of the ROC and actions (1974 invasion-occupation).

We cannot disregard the entire constitution and then choose one of its appendices and claim that this is still valid. Is the 1960 constitution valid ot not? If it is then Turkey is in violaion of it by occupying its territory, if its not then there is no treaty of gaurantee.

Ferdi needs to choose.

Hello DT,
Ferdi and TC's choose the what all the agreements has been proposed before. more details of the agreements are at below web page . TC's side clearly stating from where we can come. there is a english ones. u may get once more chance to read them.
All the proposals for solutions presented to this day that is the Cuella documents,the Gali set of ideas and finally the Annan plan.

http://www.ctpkibris.org/Belgeler/fbelgeler.htm

[halil]

CYPRUS PEACE PLATFORM STAGES PROTEST ACTION IN FRONT OF PRESIDENTIAL PALACE.

The newly formed Cyprus Peace Platform has staged an action in front of the Presidential Palace protesting President Mehmet Ali Talat for his statement that the unification of the island is not an `utterance of God”.

In a statement during the action, the Cyprus Turkish Teachers’ Union General Secretary Sener Elcil said that the organizations forming the Platform have been struggling for the reunification of Cyprus and to bring peace to the country.

Reading out a statement on behalf of the Platform, Mr Elcil said all Cypriots have been suffering from the continuation of the Cyprus problem, which he said, was created by secessionism, the struggle for power and outside interference.

Claiming that the recent statements issued by President Talat and his spokesperson Erçakıca showed that they are far from a federal solution, he accused the President of acting as-if he is in support of a solution, while working for the continuation of the problem.

[halil]

CYPRUS PEACE PLATFORM STAGES PROTEST ACTION IN FRONT OF PRESIDENTIAL PALACE.

The newly formed Cyprus Peace Platform has staged an action in front of the Presidential Palace protesting President Mehmet Ali Talat for his statement that the unification of the island is not an `utterance of God”.

In a statement during the action, the Cyprus Turkish Teachers’ Union General Secretary Sener Elcil said that the organizations forming the Platform have been struggling for the reunification of Cyprus and to bring peace to the country.

Reading out a statement on behalf of the Platform, Mr Elcil said all Cypriots have been suffering from the continuation of the Cyprus problem, which he said, was created by secessionism, the struggle for power and outside interference.

Claiming that the recent statements issued by President Talat and his spokesperson Erçakıca showed that they are far from a federal solution, he accused the President of acting as-if he is in support of a solution, while working for the continuation of the problem.

ERCAKICA RESPONDED TO THE PROTEST ACTION