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BC Numismatics wrote:Cyprusgrump,get a life,& grow a brain!
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by cyprusgrump » Sat Feb 23, 2008 9:45 am
BC Numismatics wrote:Cyprusgrump,you belong in one place - a rubber room!
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by webbo » Sat Feb 23, 2008 12:13 pm
Water transport plans ‘not serious’
By Andreas Avgousti
TALK of water transport plans appears to be nothing but hot air.
Only a month ago did the issue briefly resurface, when plans for water transport were leaked to the press by the Minister of Agriculture Fotis Fotiou.
Yesterday, President of Ocean Tankers Michalis Ioannides told Phileleftheros that his company was ready to submit a proposal to the Agriculture Ministry to bring water to Cyprus from Lebanon.
Lebanon is the latest country to be singled out for supplying Cyprus with water, previous candidates including Greece and Egypt.
“Whereas the desalination plant which is being built in Limassol can produce 20,000 cubic metres per day, tankers can bring up to 150,000 cubic metres per day,” Ioannides claimed.
He went on to argue that, “the infrastructure that needs to be built at the ports is a costly but one-off expense, which could deal with droughts whenever they happen to occur.”
It is understood that infrastructure that needs to be built includes extending the water depth of ports to accommodate water-carrying tankers, as well as building pipelines to carry the water from the ports to its destination.
Retired Senior Water Development Department Engineer Nicos Tsiourtis emphasised that transporting water in this manner demands that the necessary infrastructure exists in both countries.
“Lebanon may be replete with water, but do they have the necessary infrastructure to accommodate transporting it?
“And even if they do, we certainly do not.
“A case in point is Turkey, which has built infrastructure in its ports in the 1990s, but this has remained redundant because other countries don’t have it!”
He went on to add that even if we could transport large amounts of water, it would be very costly in the long-term.
“These are not serious proposals,” Tsiourtis stated.
The Port Authority was asked about the water transport plan.
“This is the first I hear of it,” a senior officer told us.
“Our infrastructure can accommodate ships bringing in fuels and crude oil, but not large, water-carrying tankers.
“We can only handle the smaller water barges, which bring in smaller amounts of water,” he said.
Senior Water Engineer at the Water Development Department Spyros Stefanou told us that they had met with Ocean Tankers a week ago.
“Ocean Tankers had expressed their interest in conducting a study which would look at the viability of a water transport plan.
“Initially they did not know where they could bring the water from, but now I read that Lebanon is a possible origin.
“However, I doubt whether Lebanon can provide us with the amounts of water we need throughout the year.”
“Ocean Tankers graciously offered to do the study for free, as long as we provided them with the necessary data,” Stefanou said.
“The Water Development Department obliged, since we are interested to know the viability – at least in the short-term – of such a project.”
Stefanou added that, “water transport is a last ditch solution to the island’s water problems.
“We don’t reject it as a solution, and the study may prove useful in the future if our water woes were to persist.”
Stefanou confirmed what the source at the Cyprus Port authority and Tsiourtis had said: “our ports lack infrastructure, and it would take at least ten months for infrastructure to be built.
“As the public are fully aware, desalinated water is in the front line of our attempts at dealing with the water problem.
“We are both inaugurating new desalination plants and are preparing to upgrade existing ones,” Stefanou said.
President of Ocean Tankers Michalis Ioannides was unavailable for comment.
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By Andreas Avgousti
TALK of water transport plans appears to be nothing but hot air.
Only a month ago did the issue briefly resurface, when plans for water transport were leaked to the press by the Minister of Agriculture Fotis Fotiou.
Yesterday, President of Ocean Tankers Michalis Ioannides told Phileleftheros that his company was ready to submit a proposal to the Agriculture Ministry to bring water to Cyprus from Lebanon.
Lebanon is the latest country to be singled out for supplying Cyprus with water, previous candidates including Greece and Egypt.
“Whereas the desalination plant which is being built in Limassol can produce 20,000 cubic metres per day, tankers can bring up to 150,000 cubic metres per day,” Ioannides claimed.
He went on to argue that, “the infrastructure that needs to be built at the ports is a costly but one-off expense, which could deal with droughts whenever they happen to occur.”
It is understood that infrastructure that needs to be built includes extending the water depth of ports to accommodate water-carrying tankers, as well as building pipelines to carry the water from the ports to its destination.
Retired Senior Water Development Department Engineer Nicos Tsiourtis emphasised that transporting water in this manner demands that the necessary infrastructure exists in both countries.
“Lebanon may be replete with water, but do they have the necessary infrastructure to accommodate transporting it?
“And even if they do, we certainly do not.
“A case in point is Turkey, which has built infrastructure in its ports in the 1990s, but this has remained redundant because other countries don’t have it!”
He went on to add that even if we could transport large amounts of water, it would be very costly in the long-term.
“These are not serious proposals,” Tsiourtis stated.
The Port Authority was asked about the water transport plan.
“This is the first I hear of it,” a senior officer told us.
“Our infrastructure can accommodate ships bringing in fuels and crude oil, but not large, water-carrying tankers.
“We can only handle the smaller water barges, which bring in smaller amounts of water,” he said.
Senior Water Engineer at the Water Development Department Spyros Stefanou told us that they had met with Ocean Tankers a week ago.
“Ocean Tankers had expressed their interest in conducting a study which would look at the viability of a water transport plan.
“Initially they did not know where they could bring the water from, but now I read that Lebanon is a possible origin.
“However, I doubt whether Lebanon can provide us with the amounts of water we need throughout the year.”
“Ocean Tankers graciously offered to do the study for free, as long as we provided them with the necessary data,” Stefanou said.
“The Water Development Department obliged, since we are interested to know the viability – at least in the short-term – of such a project.”
Stefanou added that, “water transport is a last ditch solution to the island’s water problems.
“We don’t reject it as a solution, and the study may prove useful in the future if our water woes were to persist.”
Stefanou confirmed what the source at the Cyprus Port authority and Tsiourtis had said: “our ports lack infrastructure, and it would take at least ten months for infrastructure to be built.
“As the public are fully aware, desalinated water is in the front line of our attempts at dealing with the water problem.
“We are both inaugurating new desalination plants and are preparing to upgrade existing ones,” Stefanou said.
President of Ocean Tankers Michalis Ioannides was unavailable for comment.
Copyright © Cyprus Mail 2008
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