shahmaran wrote:Yeah i think you have misunderstood the point there Piratis, maybe deliberately or maybe not, let me clarify it for you a bit, maybe put it in your own words to make it easier for you;
The Kurds are a MINORITY in an internationally recognized democratic country with an internationally recognized government, and are wishing to take land from 2 other countries other then Turkey in order to claim their independent land called Kurdistan.
Don't involve the same garbage about "indigenousness" since no one gives a shit about it but you, plus they are as "indigenous" to those lands as you are to Cyprus, which is not that much, but that's besides to point like i said.
So do you think the Kurds, as illegal as it is, have a right to claim independence if they actually had the military power to do so since they don't believe that their ethnicity is respected in that country?
Or do you think it is NOT OK for a minority, no matter what the reason, to claim their independence at will by violating the democratic and human rights of the majority? ie. Taking their land and properties with them.
Which one will it be Sir? And no wiggling about!
I didn't misunderstood anything and my answer to you was very precise.
The Kurds didn't steal Kurdistan from the Turks. The Kurds have been the majority of that territory long before the Turks arrived. It is their territory, and therefore they should be free to do whatever they want with it. The same could be said for others, e.g. the Scots of UK. It should be up to them if they want their territory to be part of another country or not.
TCs do not have their own separate territory. TCs are a minority like most other ethnic minorities which exist in most of other countries.
I have no problem if TCs are independent. What I have a problem with is with you stealing OUR land. So if you want to have as independent those villages where it is only TC or where the TCs are the majority, then no problem. But how the hell can you claim as yours something that belongs by 82% to us???? How can you claim that Kerynia, Morfou or Famagusta are yours when the great majority of the population are Greek Cypriots and when Greek Cypriots have lived in those places for way longer than you did?
We want our island to finally be liberated from foreign occupation so we can finally have our freedom and self-determination on our island, and you as a minority you can keep your land, the 100% of your human and democratic rights, plus the other minority rights that are given to minorities in all democratic countries.
We do not ask even for a single of your human rights to be violated. On the other hand, in order to forcefully, illegally and unnaturally create some "Turkish state" on land that by 82% belongs to us, you mass violate our human rights and perform the crime of ethnic cleansing against us.