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Postby Kikapu » Thu Feb 07, 2008 8:58 pm

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Viewpoint wrote:So? you still havent got the plot we would rather lose it to Turkey than GCs, why do you have problems accepting this fact? We rejected you in 1974 and sided with Turkey end of story. If you want us or more importantly for you the land you lost you have to compromise, no compromise no solution....viva la TRNC.


So? you still havent got the plot we would rather lose it to Turkey than GCs


Earth to VP, can you hear me...............!!!

Sorry to tell you this, but it is not yours to lose to anyone, least of all to Turkey.

Enough politics, lets play a game called "Spot a TC in the TRNC" contest.!!


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Winners gets to eat "kelle" with Halil and Bananiot. :lol: :lol:



Yuk never touch the stuff you can eat it all you want.

What do you fear? why is it that you hate this Turkish thing? you are all being taken over by Turks, so what? why are you so concerned? we live here and come to accept the fact do you see protests or large scale meeting objecting? We choose Turkey in 1974 and have worked together since then to build this country recognized or not this is ours and will stay ours, what happens here is our business and does not concern anyone else, live with it, its gonna happen whether you like it or not. The GCs can kiss the north goodbye forever we made our choice and are prepared to live with about time the GCs did the same.


Yuk never touch the stuff you can eat it all you want.


Last time I had kelle (sheep's head) was more than 30 years ago in the UK, but as I remember, it wasn't too bad, once you get pass the eyes looking at you.!! It is not something I can tell my friends about who live in the West about eating sheep head, brain, and testicles. :lol: :lol:

Now all that stuff comes in a different package called a "Hamburger" from McDonald's. :lol:

I do not hate anything Turkish. Turkey is one of my favourite destinations for a holiday. I enjoy the people and the country when I'm there, but would never consider living there, so why would I want them to come and live in my country and take over part of it and call it their own. You do not own any part of Cyprus VP. I do not know why this is so hard for you to understand. Just because the North was taken by force, does not make it yours, and to add insult to injury, you want to give it to someone else. Is there no limit to your arrogance. I don't even know why I'm replying to you, as if you have any control as to who is running the North. Is not you, Talat, or the TC's, I don't care how many TC's are in the government. The whole show is run by Turkey and you can't say anything to the contrary. If you really had control and was willingly inviting the Turks or wanting to turn the North into "little Turkey", I would really get mad at you and the other disillusioned individuals on the forum. The truth is, you do not have any say so, but still wants to claim as if you do.

I guess you have to make a showing to the Turkish Army, or else Article 301 will be used on anyone who speaks against Turkey. Shah has made that very clearly. He did not mention Article 301 however, but I know what he meant. Look at how T_C was afraid to write his "Cyprus story" and had to ask you and Zan for some kind of an approval. So much for freedom of expression VP. Just to be fair to you and Zan, T_C did say that you and Zan told him to go ahead and write his story, but the fact he had to ask, is the part that bothered me. Perhaps because he needs to go back and finish his military service this year was the reason to keeping quite. I do not blame him at al, if those are the reasons. Of course, T_C has not written his "Cyprus story".
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:35 pm

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Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So? you still havent got the plot we would rather lose it to Turkey than GCs, why do you have problems accepting this fact? We rejected you in 1974 and sided with Turkey end of story. If you want us or more importantly for you the land you lost you have to compromise, no compromise no solution....viva la TRNC.


So? you still havent got the plot we would rather lose it to Turkey than GCs


Earth to VP, can you hear me...............!!!

Sorry to tell you this, but it is not yours to lose to anyone, least of all to Turkey.

Enough politics, lets play a game called "Spot a TC in the TRNC" contest.!!


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Winners gets to eat "kelle" with Halil and Bananiot. :lol: :lol:



Yuk never touch the stuff you can eat it all you want.

What do you fear? why is it that you hate this Turkish thing? you are all being taken over by Turks, so what? why are you so concerned? we live here and come to accept the fact do you see protests or large scale meeting objecting? We choose Turkey in 1974 and have worked together since then to build this country recognized or not this is ours and will stay ours, what happens here is our business and does not concern anyone else, live with it, its gonna happen whether you like it or not. The GCs can kiss the north goodbye forever we made our choice and are prepared to live with about time the GCs did the same.


So whats all the bleating (Baaaaa) about isolation and embargoes and recognition for. You are full of crap, really, the Trash Can state cannot function on its own, turkey will soon tire of you and then you will be stuffed. Wake up, look at the long term future not the na nana na we got it you ain't phylosophy and short term gains. You may be here today, you will be gone tomorrow and we have children who will have this bad blood pasted onto them for our fuckups. Turkey does not love you, honest can you not see that? They are using you like pawns and you are singing her praises. You keep going on about the RoC and being un safe, this is RoC 33 years later in the 21 centuary, get a grip and lets talk some sense here. There is no killing or screwing you to be done by the RoC, its all in your head and the sooner you realise that the better. You are heading for a very bleak future if you maintain your present course.

Its not rocket science.


Have you finished? this is your interpretation to which we do not have to subscribe, you appear clearly to have problems stomaching the fact that we have chosen the "evil" Turkey over you GCs, when will you learn that garbage like the above does not effect us, what makes a difference is concrete actions to encourage unification and not the actions of the last 45 years, even in 2008 you are the same as you were in 1963 where you want to dominate and control a community which is unwilling to capitulate to a GC majority, you need to prove that we will better off in a united Cyprus where we will not be pushed to one side by GCs and not allowed to control our own future. Actions speak louder than words.
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Postby Viewpoint » Thu Feb 07, 2008 9:55 pm

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Last time I had kelle (sheep's head) was more than 30 years ago in the UK, but as I remember, it wasn't too bad, once you get pass the eyes looking at you.!! It is not something I can tell my friends about who live in the West about eating sheep head, brain, and testicles.

Now all that stuff comes in a different package called a "Hamburger" from McDonald's.


Each to their own, not my cup of tea.

I do not hate anything Turkish. Turkey is one of my favourite destinations for a holiday. I enjoy the people and the country when I'm there, but would never consider living there,


You really need to go back and read your own posts the hate and venom you spew out about anything Turkish is all over this forum for all to read and you have the audacity to claim you like Turkey and its people, you bend like the wind and makes things up as you go along.

so why would I want them to come and live in my country and take over part of it and call it their own.


No problem the TRNC is not your country, its ours.

Just because the North was taken by force, does not make it yours, and to add insult to injury, you want to give it to someone else. Is there no limit to your arrogance.


Deja vu Kikapu, do you recall this scene from 1963? it was called enosis.

I don't even know why I'm replying to you, as if you have any control as to who is running the North. Is not you, Talat, or the TC's, I don't care how many TC's are in the government. The whole show is run by Turkey and you can't say anything to the contrary. If you really had control and was willingly inviting the Turks or wanting to turn the North into "little Turkey", I would really get mad at you and the other disillusioned individuals on the forum. The truth is, you do not have any say so, but still wants to claim as if you do.


You can stop replying at anytime that's your provocative, the government is full of TCs, obviously you would not know this as you have never been to the TRNC. Yes you are right we do work closely with Turkey our only ally isn't this the "True Democracy" you are on about where the majority vote and get what they want? Turks vs GCs...time to wake up the choice was made in 1974 and sorry to burst your bubble but it was not the GCs.

I guess you have to make a showing to the Turkish Army, or else Article 301 will be used on anyone who speaks against Turkey. Shah has made that very clearly. He did not mention Article 301 however, but I know what he meant. Look at how T_C was afraid to write his "Cyprus story" and had to ask you and Zan for some kind of an approval. So much for freedom of expression VP. Just to be fair to you and Zan, T_C did say that you and Zan told him to go ahead and write his story, but the fact he had to ask, is the part that bothered me. Perhaps because he needs to go back and finish his military service this year was the reason to keeping quite. I do not blame him at al, if those are the reasons. Of course, T_C has not written his "Cyprus story".


You appear more concerned than those who live here, why do you not visit and experience the freedom here in the TRNC yourself then you will know for real what you appear to guessing about all the time. T_C can write what he wants and the TCs have the right to go live in the heavenly GC south tomorrow no one is stopping them or do you think the "evil" TCs and Turks are keeping them trapped in the TRNC? :lol:

You do not know how delusional you sound from this side of the divide.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:13 am

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So? you still havent got the plot we would rather lose it to Turkey than GCs, why do you have problems accepting this fact? We rejected you in 1974 and sided with Turkey end of story. If you want us or more importantly for you the land you lost you have to compromise, no compromise no solution....viva la TRNC.


So? you still havent got the plot we would rather lose it to Turkey than GCs


Earth to VP, can you hear me...............!!!

Sorry to tell you this, but it is not yours to lose to anyone, least of all to Turkey.

Enough politics, lets play a game called "Spot a TC in the TRNC" contest.!!


Image

Winners gets to eat "kelle" with Halil and Bananiot. :lol: :lol:



Yuk never touch the stuff you can eat it all you want.

What do you fear? why is it that you hate this Turkish thing? you are all being taken over by Turks, so what? why are you so concerned? we live here and come to accept the fact do you see protests or large scale meeting objecting? We choose Turkey in 1974 and have worked together since then to build this country recognized or not this is ours and will stay ours, what happens here is our business and does not concern anyone else, live with it, its gonna happen whether you like it or not. The GCs can kiss the north goodbye forever we made our choice and are prepared to live with about time the GCs did the same.


Yuk never touch the stuff you can eat it all you want.


Last time I had kelle (sheep's head) was more than 30 years ago in the UK, but as I remember, it wasn't too bad, once you get pass the eyes looking at you.!! It is not something I can tell my friends about who live in the West about eating sheep head, brain, and testicles. :lol: :lol:

Now all that stuff comes in a different package called a "Hamburger" from McDonald's. :lol:

I do not hate anything Turkish. Turkey is one of my favourite destinations for a holiday. I enjoy the people and the country when I'm there, but would never consider living there, so why would I want them to come and live in my country and take over part of it and call it their own. You do not own any part of Cyprus VP. I do not know why this is so hard for you to understand. Just because the North was taken by force, does not make it yours, and to add insult to injury, you want to give it to someone else. Is there no limit to your arrogance. I don't even know why I'm replying to you, as if you have any control as to who is running the North. Is not you, Talat, or the TC's, I don't care how many TC's are in the government. The whole show is run by Turkey and you can't say anything to the contrary. If you really had control and was willingly inviting the Turks or wanting to turn the North into "little Turkey", I would really get mad at you and the other disillusioned individuals on the forum. The truth is, you do not have any say so, but still wants to claim as if you do.

I guess you have to make a showing to the Turkish Army, or else Article 301 will be used on anyone who speaks against Turkey. Shah has made that very clearly. He did not mention Article 301 however, but I know what he meant. Look at how T_C was afraid to write his "Cyprus story" and had to ask you and Zan for some kind of an approval. So much for freedom of expression VP. Just to be fair to you and Zan, T_C did say that you and Zan told him to go ahead and write his story, but the fact he had to ask, is the part that bothered me. Perhaps because he needs to go back and finish his military service this year was the reason to keeping quite. I do not blame him at al, if those are the reasons. Of course, T_C has not written his "Cyprus story".


You really need to go back and read your own posts the hate and venom you spew out about anything Turkish is all over this forum for all to read and you have the audacity to claim you like Turkey and its people, you bend like the wind and makes things up as you go along


My complaint is with the Turkish Government for wanting to take over the lives of the TC's and controlling them to an extinction, as well as causing destruction to the lives of many Cypriots in my country of birth that does not belong to her. This is separate from hard working Turks and the country it self, Turkey. I have family members who live there, as well as living there 2 years myself as a child from age 9-11. I do not agree with American Foreign policies either, but I remain to be an American. So do not confuse the two issues. I know you love anything and everything that Turkey does. For some, such as yourself, is blinded by such love and are not willing to raise their voice to any wrong doings by the "TRNC" or Turkey. That's the difference between the two of us. I question everything and anything, but you, well, what can I say VP, you and Zan and few others are good foot soldier and does what they are told. The same was said about Hitler's henchman. They too were good foot soldiers and did what ever they were told. History has not taken too kindly to them since, and neither will with people like yourselves for helping to cause the extinction of their own people.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:27 am

Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age in the TRNC. Although Turkey is not perfect they are our only ally in times of need, unlike the GCs who only wanted to gift our home to Greece without out best wishes because they felt it was their god given right. We were the underdogs yet we did not give up, we fought against what we saw as danger and anniahalation. So the TRNC is heaven in comparision to the ghettos GCs forced us to live in...viva la TRNC.
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Postby Kikapu » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:32 am

Viewpoint wrote:Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age in the TRNC. Although Turkey is not perfect they are our only ally in times of need, unlike the GCs who only wanted to gift our home to Greece without out best wishes because they felt it was their god given right. We were the underdogs yet we did not give up, we fought against what we saw as danger and anniahalation. So the TRNC is heaven in comparision to the ghettos GCs forced us to live in...viva la TRNC.


Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age


I wish you both and others a very long life. In fact, may you live long enough to witness your own "death sentence" imposed on you by yourselves.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:38 am

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Viewpoint wrote:Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age in the TRNC. Although Turkey is not perfect they are our only ally in times of need, unlike the GCs who only wanted to gift our home to Greece without out best wishes because they felt it was their god given right. We were the underdogs yet we did not give up, we fought against what we saw as danger and anniahalation. So the TRNC is heaven in comparision to the ghettos GCs forced us to live in...viva la TRNC.


Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age


I wish you both and others a very long life. In fact, may you live long enough to witness your own "death sentence" imposed on you by yourselves.


Are you refering to the TRNC becoming more Turkish than Cypriot? that is only a "death sentence" to those that allow it to be like yourself.
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:43 am

Viewpoint wrote:Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age in the TRNC. Although Turkey is not perfect they are our only ally in times of need, unlike the GCs who only wanted to gift our home to Greece without out best wishes because they felt it was their god given right. We were the underdogs yet we did not give up, we fought against what we saw as danger and anniahalation. So the TRNC is heaven in comparision to the ghettos GCs forced us to live in...viva la TRNC.


You say that line with such disgust. WHat exactly have YOU done with OUR home? Who did you gift it to?

DO you seriously not see the double standard of your post?
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:47 am

DT. wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age in the TRNC. Although Turkey is not perfect they are our only ally in times of need, unlike the GCs who only wanted to gift our home to Greece without out best wishes because they felt it was their god given right. We were the underdogs yet we did not give up, we fought against what we saw as danger and anniahalation. So the TRNC is heaven in comparision to the ghettos GCs forced us to live in...viva la TRNC.


You say that line with such disgust. WHat exactly have YOU done with OUR home? Who did you gift it to?

DO you seriously not see the double standard of your post?


So you are still non repentant?, you lost your homes because of enosis, but there is a way back for you, would there have been for me? you are the one applying double standards.
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Postby DT. » Fri Feb 08, 2008 12:54 am

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Viewpoint wrote:Dont worry about us Kikapu zan and I will live to a ripe old age in the TRNC. Although Turkey is not perfect they are our only ally in times of need, unlike the GCs who only wanted to gift our home to Greece without out best wishes because they felt it was their god given right. We were the underdogs yet we did not give up, we fought against what we saw as danger and anniahalation. So the TRNC is heaven in comparision to the ghettos GCs forced us to live in...viva la TRNC.


You say that line with such disgust. WHat exactly have YOU done with OUR home? Who did you gift it to?

DO you seriously not see the double standard of your post?


So you are still non repentant?, you lost your homes because of enosis, but there is a way back for you, would there have been for me? you are the one applying double standards.


you condemn one thing and in the same breath you commit the exact same offence and you don;t fin anything wrong with it?
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