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State terrorism and racism in Greek South Cyprus.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:58 pm

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alexISS wrote:Opinions do not and cannot change facts: The Turks invaded an already fully inhabited land, killed and/or pushed away the former inhabitants and replaced their marvellous culture with an inferior one. I'm sorry, but noone in the world believes that the coming of the Turks changed the area for the better


Which civilisations have we ended exactly?

But going by your argument, many civilisations have ended other great ones, some for the better and some for the worst, humanity is still very much up and kicking regardless, so what is your point? We shouldn't exist? I am not understanding what you are trying to prove here, please explain.


Shah, ask alexiss about the Trojans and tell him to explain the genocide which wiped a whole nation off the face of the earth.


I hope Shah won't ask me, because if he will I'll be put in the difficult position of explaining why Homer decided to write the Iliad the way he did, and I'm certainly not capable of such judgment. Nice to have another sample of your education status, though :lol:
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:59 pm

So that gives you an excuse to behave the way you do. A true historic Darwinist. But remember this sentiment when things go against you and not give us all sob story when it does.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:00 pm

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shahmaran wrote:Well the Germans killed because they believed everyone around them were inferior and that all the land was needed to expand the superior German race. Which is pretty much along the line with what you were saying except that we have supposedly replaced these "superior" nations with an "inferior" one, and I'm guessing you are talking about the Ottomans replacing you guys from Turkey, since that is where the whole argument had begun. So can you not read or shall i make it even BOLDER?


Here we go again... WHEN did I say that superior nations were replaced by inferior ones... I was talking about cultures, how many times do I have to say it? Only someone who actually feels inferior would perceive everything said to him as a racist remark but your inferiority complexes are not my problem Shahmaran! I'll say it again and I hope this time you'll actually read it and stop repeating the same nonsense: Greeks are not superior to Turks, Turks are not superior to Greeks


Oh right pardon me, you have said INFERIOR CULTURE, i guess you were only referring to your little hypothesis on ancient architecture. Well i am truly sorry, you are not as racist as i thought you were.

I have already told you what i believe in, no need to stuff words into my mouth, my stance is pretty clear, however i am still waiting for some clarification on what you exactly mean by this "inferiority" since you are the one who brought it up, if you don't mind, thanks.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:01 pm

Were not the Trojans Greeks too? They worshipped the same gods and obviously spoke the same language as the Spartans, othewise how did they insult each other before battle?
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:05 pm

Nikitas wrote:Were not the Trojans Greeks too? They worshipped the same gods and obviously spoke the same language as the Spartans, othewise how did they insult each other before battle?


They were? :shock:

Does that prove that the Greeks even genocide their own kind?

Barbarians! :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:07 pm

shahmaran wrote:Oh right pardon me, you have said INFERIOR CULTURE, i guess you were only referring to your little hypothesis on ancient architecture. Well i am truly sorry, you are not as racist as i thought you were.

I have already told you what i believe in, no need to stuff words into my mouth, my stance is pretty clear, however i am still waiting for some clarification on what you exactly mean by this "inferiority" since you are the one who brought it up, if you don't mind, thanks.

You want me to explain why the Ottoman culture was inferior to the Greeks? Architecture is the least of the reasons Shahmaran, compare for instance the works of literature or science of the two people and you'll see there is a huge gap between them
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Postby DT. » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:10 pm

alexISS wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Oh right pardon me, you have said INFERIOR CULTURE, i guess you were only referring to your little hypothesis on ancient architecture. Well i am truly sorry, you are not as racist as i thought you were.

I have already told you what i believe in, no need to stuff words into my mouth, my stance is pretty clear, however i am still waiting for some clarification on what you exactly mean by this "inferiority" since you are the one who brought it up, if you don't mind, thanks.

You want me to explain why the Ottoman culture was inferior to the Greeks? Architecture is the least of the reasons Shahmaran, compare for instance the works of literature or science of the two people and you'll see there is a huge gap between them


speaking of huge gaps...Where's Eric?
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:13 pm

Nikitas wrote:So that gives you an excuse to behave the way you do. A true historic Darwinist. But remember this sentiment when things go against you and not give us all sob story when it does.


What excuse are you talking about, you were a part of the battles, it takes 2 to tango Nikitas, is your actions any more acceptable than ours, considering you are meant to be the more "advanced" and "awakened" ? I don't think so.

History has tested us many times already, pretty violently too mind you, and we are still here. Regardless of our so called "inferior culture".

So it does go against us pretty often as it is going against the TC's as we speak.

But what option do we have other than trying to do our best? You cant blame people for trying to look out for their interests.

This is why people need to respect each other regardless of their conflicts, because at the end of the day we are all doing the same thing, and you need to be able to step back and see the big picture without thinking like a Greek or a Turk or whatever.

Hence the wonderful quote in my signature ;)
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:19 pm

alexISS wrote:
shahmaran wrote:Oh right pardon me, you have said INFERIOR CULTURE, i guess you were only referring to your little hypothesis on ancient architecture. Well i am truly sorry, you are not as racist as i thought you were.

I have already told you what i believe in, no need to stuff words into my mouth, my stance is pretty clear, however i am still waiting for some clarification on what you exactly mean by this "inferiority" since you are the one who brought it up, if you don't mind, thanks.

You want me to explain why the Ottoman culture was inferior to the Greeks? Architecture is the least of the reasons Shahmaran, compare for instance the works of literature or science of the two people and you'll see there is a huge gap between them


How can you even begin to compare literature of the 2 totally different cultures Alex? What aspects of it would you compare? Have you even read any Turkic literature?
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Postby alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 2:24 pm

shahmaran wrote:How can you even begin to compare literature of the 2 totally different cultures Alex? What aspects of it would you compare? Have you even read any Turkic literature?

What do you mean? Why can't you compare the literature of different cultures?!? :?

Anyway, don't take the "have you ever" road again because that was your argument before when discussing about Ottoman architecture and you ended up saying "ok so we are not great builders" :lol:
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