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State terrorism and racism in Greek South Cyprus.

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:35 pm

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Yes the argument begun when you jumped in with more unfounded information about Turkey against my opposition to Sotos who was also simply taking cheap shots with no real knowledge. And so the story continues, and i am still waiting for you to explain me why we are "inferior" :lol:

Yes the Ottomans might not have been the most creative but you would also appreciate that as much as arts and culture are important it is not fundamental for the creation and survival of nations. So if you could ever drop your racist and arrogant goggles and try to see the world from the perspective of nature, you would maybe appreciate what really goes on in history from a totally new angle.

I personally respect every culture nation and race ever existed and exists, not because of my nationality but because of my love and understanding towards all living things. Because it is our nature to try and survive in any means possible, and that's what we do, so i can never believe that one is superior to another since they are all parts of the same mechanism.

However this does not mean i will stand by and listen to your bigoted accusations without saying nothing.

Can you say the same or will you just sit there and continue justifying every crime that was committed against us by the fact that "we cant make nice buildings so we don't deserve to be free", i find your view nothing but amusing.


Could you please point where I called the Turks "inferior"? Am I a racist because I consider the Ottoman culture to be inferior to others?!? Am I a racist because I believe that the coming of the Ottomans was the end of many great civilizations who could have given much more to humanity if they were allowed to exist? If the answer is yes, then the whole world is racist because I'm only saying what is widely accepted to be the truth


alexISS wrote:Opinions do not and cannot change facts: The Turks invaded an already fully inhabited land, killed and/or pushed away the former inhabitants and replaced their marvellous culture with an inferior one. I'm sorry, but noone in the world believes that the coming of the Turks changed the area for the better


Which civilisations have we ended exactly?

But going by your argument, many civilisations have ended other great ones, some for the better and some for the worst, humanity is still very much up and kicking regardless, so what is your point? We shouldn't exist? I am not understanding what you are trying to prove here, please explain.
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Postby alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:39 pm

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alexISS wrote:Opinions do not and cannot change facts: The Turks invaded an already fully inhabited land, killed and/or pushed away the former inhabitants and replaced their marvellous culture with an inferior one. I'm sorry, but noone in the world believes that the coming of the Turks changed the area for the better


And where am I saying that Turks are inferior to Greeks?!?
In WWII the Germans killed a lot more people in 5 years than the Turks, does accepting this fact make me a racist? Does it sound like I'm saying that the Turkish race is superior to the German? Wake up, get over your fear that the whole world is against you!
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:42 pm

Well the Germans killed because they believed everyone around them were inferior and that all the land was needed to expand the superior German race. Which is pretty much along the line with what you were saying except that we have supposedly replaced these "superior" nations with an "inferior" one, and I'm guessing you are talking about the Ottomans replacing you guys from Turkey, since that is where the whole argument had begun. So can you not read or shall i make it even BOLDER?
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:43 pm

shahmaran wrote:
alexISS wrote:Opinions do not and cannot change facts: The Turks invaded an already fully inhabited land, killed and/or pushed away the former inhabitants and replaced their marvellous culture with an inferior one. I'm sorry, but noone in the world believes that the coming of the Turks changed the area for the better


Which civilisations have we ended exactly?

But going by your argument, many civilisations have ended other great ones, some for the better and some for the worst, humanity is still very much up and kicking regardless, so what is your point? We shouldn't exist? I am not understanding what you are trying to prove here, please explain.


Shah, ask alexiss about the Trojans and tell him to explain the genocide which wiped a whole nation off the face of the earth.
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:44 pm

Some of these amazing and "awakened" nations, including you guys, have tried very hard to divide us a few times, not that long ago, so excuse us for being a little paranoid.
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Postby Nikitas » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:51 pm

"I am truly having difficulty understanding your position Nikitas, what is it that you want us to accept exactly? "

Illustrates the point rather well. The world moved on from the Middle Ages. Time you moved on too. Leave the cynicism behind and move on. If there was on quality I would attach to modern Turkey is cynicism. And a lot of it is evident here in the posts of some TCs.
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Postby Eric dayi » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:51 pm

DT. wrote:Miltiades the only govt on this island is the ROC which is the Cyprus Republic.


How wrong can you be? A lot it seems.

There is a border in Cyprus with the Greek South Cyprus and the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus with it's won government, so it seems that you have been caught out lying through closed teeth again Daft Twat.

Is your passport up to date? Must be if you want to cross over to the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus governed by a Turkish Cypriot government.

If you don't know where the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus with it's own Turkish Cypriot government is just look north, you'll see a great big flag on the mountain showing you the way. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby BC Numismatics » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:55 pm

Eric,you ARE a malakas! The 'TRNC' ISN'T a country! It is an illegal entity that has no right to exist!

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Postby alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:55 pm

shahmaran wrote:Well the Germans killed because they believed everyone around them were inferior and that all the land was needed to expand the superior German race. Which is pretty much along the line with what you were saying except that we have supposedly replaced these "superior" nations with an "inferior" one, and I'm guessing you are talking about the Ottomans replacing you guys from Turkey, since that is where the whole argument had begun. So can you not read or shall i make it even BOLDER?


Here we go again... WHEN did I say that superior nations were replaced by inferior ones... I was talking about cultures, how many times do I have to say it? Only someone who actually feels inferior would perceive everything said to him as a racist remark but your inferiority complexes are not my problem Shahmaran! I'll say it again and I hope this time you'll actually read it and stop repeating the same nonsense: Greeks are not superior to Turks, Turks are not superior to Greeks
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Postby shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 1:56 pm

Nikitas wrote:"I am truly having difficulty understanding your position Nikitas, what is it that you want us to accept exactly? "

Illustrates the point rather well. The world moved on from the Middle Ages. Time you moved on too. Leave the cynicism behind and move on. If there was on quality I would attach to modern Turkey is cynicism. And a lot of it is evident here in the posts of some TCs.


The world moved on from the middle ages?!?

What planet are you living on Nikitas, constellation of the ignorant?

Don't you ever watch the news?

We have genocides that took place in this century, and concentration camps working TODAY!

And funny enough, most of them belong to the amazing "awakened" nations of the world.

When has the world moved from the middle ages exactly? I must have missed it. :roll:
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