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[alexISS]

To be honest AlexISS i cannot see the connection between us being "inferior" and some ancient architecture.

I am eager to find out, if you care to explain.

It is this arrogance that has cost you so much, yet you refuse to let it go. And i don't have to waste my time trying to convince you to anything, you want a god dam building, there you go its a bloody building, you want to argue the authenticity of its aesthetics and the genius behind it, the go find an architect, but don't come here and try backing up your semi-constructive and racist views with such rubbish.

Specially when your main argument is that we are meant to be the barbarians and the ones who don't respect other cultures, listen to yourself you hypocrite and tell me why i shouldest insult you, i don't think you deserve an intellectual debate, that's why!

Shahmaran, comparing cultures does not make me a racist, I could say the same for you when you said that the Turks are better survivors than the Greeks and I would be more accurate. The inferiority of the culture produced by the Ottoman Turks compared to their predecessors' is a fact. The problem is that Turks scream "racism" whenever this fact is pointed out. Did you notice how this discussion started? Who provoked whom?

[Nikitas]

Well, nice to see ED showing us the Christian troglodyte dwellings of Cappadocia, which illustrates the point very well, the Ottomans created very little and what they have to show is what they took. End of story.

[Eric dayi]

LOL! OK AlexISS i guess we are "inferior" indeed, i hope that really helps your complexes, ill get my coat.






What a tosser!

He is just another racist GC twat no batter than the others like him in this forum.

[boomerang]

The Blue Mosque is indeed a copy. But hardly a great monument worthy of an empire. As for travelling around the foremr Ottoman Empire well I have been to: Greece, Cyprus, Lebanon, Egypt, Yuogslavia, sourhern Austria, and there is not much there that is left from Ottoman days.

The Ottoman empire was not a benign creative power. It was a taxation first system built on the conquering system dveloped by Jenkis Khan. Even in Cyprus, when you look around, the greatest Ottoman monuments are those that were taken over and Ottomanised, Saint Sofia in Nicosia, Saint Nicholas in Famagusta and the walled city of Famagusta itself.

If you go to the Dodecanese you will see how the Italians in twenty or so years the had the islands (1919-1948) carried out more public works than the Ottomans had in 400 years.

A lot is made of the religious tolerance of the Ottomans. Let us not forget that the church was a very good source of tax information and a means to social organizing that allowed tax collecting. From that point on the interst in the local population was less than zero. Like one Lebanese intellectual wrote "the Turks had a knack for making people stupid".

gough...gough..Sorry Nikitas, did you say Ottomans?...

In 1942 the “Varlik Vergisi” law imposed a wealth tax on property. The provisions of the law were enforced with exceptional zeal only against the non-Moslem minorities at confiscatory rates. Eg Greeks were taxed at 156 percent of annual income and Moslem Turks at 4.96 percent. The Varlik effectively deprived the community of its wealth with massive numbers of property and businesses being transferred to Moslem hands.

In 1949 all Greek religious, charitable and community foundations were stripped of their autonomy and placed under the supervision of the General Directorate for Religious Property (Vakuf).

In 1963 the Turkish Council of State determined that non-moslem foundations could not acquire real estate in excess of that belonging to them in 1926.

In 1967 (Law 903/67) imposed an inspection tax of 5% on the income of minority foundations. This law also prohibited the establishment of new minority foundations and the repair or restoration of real estate belonging to minority foundations.

In 1970 the Ministry of Education prohibited prayers in minority schools. In the same year a new property tax of 6% was imposed on the real estate of minority foundations.

[Nikitas]

A great culture is judged by the elements beneificial to mankind it leaves behind. The Arabs gaves us algebra, astronomy, architecture, the Romans left engineering and Roman Law, the Greeks logic and the scientific method, and the list goes on till you get to the Ottomans who left us what? There is hardly a sign that they wre ever around. So in terms of cultural comparison the Ottoman culture is one of the less important ones. The world would not be a worse place if it had never happened.

[Eric dayi]

Well, nice to see ED showing us the Christian troglodyte dwellings of Cappadocia, which illustrates the point very well, the Ottomans created very little and what they have to show is what they took. End of story.

I knew you would come back with such crap and prove that you have no idea of what you are talking about when it comes to the Ottoman Empire. Your racism and hate against the Ottoman and Turks just does not allow you to learn and I am not about to educate an idiot like you.

[alexISS]

LOL! OK AlexISS i guess we are "inferior" indeed, i hope that really helps your complexes, ill get my coat.






What a tosser!

He is just another racist GC twat no batter than the others like him in this forum.

Ah, thank for your nice words, it's nice to see cornered racist Turks spouting insults when they run out of arguments

[BC Numismatics]

State terrorism and racism in Greek South Cyprus.

Turkey murders journalists, Kurds and everybody that they want and they even have this 301 law for sending everybody they want to jail for no reason! They invade other countries and kill thousands of innocents also. And Eric is saying that the problem of racism and state terrorism is in Cyprus

Sotos,you're not wrong there! The Republic of Ireland is as much a racist country as Turkey is.Protestants,Muslims,& Jews don't enjoy full civil rights in the Republic of Ireland,as the Pope of Rome's Hell-bound cult wields its power like a big stick,as it were.

Did you know that the Republic of Ireland still had slavery until a few years ago? The Cult of Rome were using unmarried women who had children as a source of slave labour in their laundries,& the openly Britanniphobic Irish Government (which still aids & abets Sinn Fein/I.R.A.'s crimes) did absolutely nothing,apart from sweeping it under the carpet.

I knew one guy who visited both Belfast & Dublin.He liked Belfast,but he thought that Dublin was a real dump.

Aidan.

[Nikitas]

Being called an idiot by Eric Dayi! I am not sure if I should be embarassed or proud!

[alexISS]

Being called an idiot by Eric Dayi! I am not sure if I should be embarassed or proud!

Neither. He calls everyone an idiot