State terrorism and racism in Greek South Cyprus.
by alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:35 pm
Of course I am familiar with the blue mosque, the best knock-off of Hagia Sophia there is! That specific building is the first every Turk mentions when asked about Turkish architecture, and it's a bloody COPY!
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by alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:38 pm
In fact, what is known as "Turkish culture" in its whole is a mixture of Persian, Egyptian, Greek and Arab cultures, with no additions by the Ottomans except the language
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by alexISS » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:45 pm
shahmaran wrote:LOL! OK AlexISS i guess we are "inferior" indeed, i hope that really helps your complexes, ill get my coat.
What a tosser!
Uh oh.. did we reach a dead end here? Nothing personal shahmaran, but sometimes some people need to get their facts straight. Also notice how I never personally insulted you and then look at your last sentence. Not that I'm insulted or that I could ever be by anything someone like you says to me, but it just shows how true my previous posts were, regarding culture
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by Nikitas » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:52 pm
The Blue Mosque is indeed a copy. But hardly a great monument worthy of an empire. As for travelling around the foremr Ottoman Empire well I have been to: Greece, Cyprus, Lebanon, Egypt, Yuogslavia, sourhern Austria, and there is not much there that is left from Ottoman days.
The Ottoman empire was not a benign creative power. It was a taxation first system built on the conquering system dveloped by Jenkis Khan. Even in Cyprus, when you look around, the greatest Ottoman monuments are those that were taken over and Ottomanised, Saint Sofia in Nicosia, Saint Nicholas in Famagusta and the walled city of Famagusta itself.
If you go to the Dodecanese you will see how the Italians in twenty or so years the had the islands (1919-1948) carried out more public works than the Ottomans had in 400 years.
A lot is made of the religious tolerance of the Ottomans. Let us not forget that the church was a very good source of tax information and a means to social organizing that allowed tax collecting. From that point on the interst in the local population was less than zero. Like one Lebanese intellectual wrote "the Turks had a knack for making people stupid".
The Ottoman empire was not a benign creative power. It was a taxation first system built on the conquering system dveloped by Jenkis Khan. Even in Cyprus, when you look around, the greatest Ottoman monuments are those that were taken over and Ottomanised, Saint Sofia in Nicosia, Saint Nicholas in Famagusta and the walled city of Famagusta itself.
If you go to the Dodecanese you will see how the Italians in twenty or so years the had the islands (1919-1948) carried out more public works than the Ottomans had in 400 years.
A lot is made of the religious tolerance of the Ottomans. Let us not forget that the church was a very good source of tax information and a means to social organizing that allowed tax collecting. From that point on the interst in the local population was less than zero. Like one Lebanese intellectual wrote "the Turks had a knack for making people stupid".
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by shahmaran » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:54 pm
To be honest AlexISS i cannot see the connection between us being "inferior" and some ancient architecture.
I am eager to find out, if you care to explain.
It is this arrogance that has cost you so much, yet you refuse to let it go. And i don't have to waste my time trying to convince you to anything, you want a god dam building, there you go its a bloody building, you want to argue the authenticity of its aesthetics and the genius behind it, the go find an architect, but don't come here and try backing up your semi-constructive and racist views with such rubbish.
Specially when your main argument is that we are meant to be the barbarians and the ones who don't respect other cultures, listen to yourself you hypocrite, and tell me why i shouldn't insult you, i don't think you deserve an intellectual debate, that's why!
I am eager to find out, if you care to explain.
It is this arrogance that has cost you so much, yet you refuse to let it go. And i don't have to waste my time trying to convince you to anything, you want a god dam building, there you go its a bloody building, you want to argue the authenticity of its aesthetics and the genius behind it, the go find an architect, but don't come here and try backing up your semi-constructive and racist views with such rubbish.
Specially when your main argument is that we are meant to be the barbarians and the ones who don't respect other cultures, listen to yourself you hypocrite, and tell me why i shouldn't insult you, i don't think you deserve an intellectual debate, that's why!
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by Eric dayi » Tue Feb 05, 2008 12:58 pm
alexISS wrote:Eric dayi wrote:
Your superiority complex must be killing you you racist twit.
Another fine speciment of the famous Turkish "culture"
You are welcome to go and see what there is in Turkey, enjoy.
And here's one from the beautiful Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus free of GC state terror.
Hope you enjoy looking at it as much as I do.
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::
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