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[Kifeas]

What guarantees will ensure being the majority in a constituent state?

Similar provisions like those of Annan plan for quarantined majority. Permanent derogations as to the percentage of GCs that will be allowed, at any given time, to hail from the GC constituent state and obtain TCCS internal citizenship. What else do you want? I am sure GCs will understand and accommodate such provisions in exchange of TC political equality on the basis of Constituent states instead of ethnicity.

Unrestricted bi-zonality and majority rule?

I do not understand what you mean! Read what I said above!

Until GC becomes majority in North we can all close our eyes for the sake of national cause; then we all start to shout about the unfairness of being ruled by TCs in TCCS where majority of its inhabitants are GCs.

I do not understand what you mean! Again, please read what I said above!

Kifeas, none of the TCs are as naive as you imagine.

No, I do not imagine TCs are naive at all. perhaps its you who imagines that GCs are naive!

[insan]

Similar provisions like those of Annan plan for quarantined majority. Permanent derogations as to the percentage of GCs that will be allowed, at any given time, to hail from the GC constituent state and obtain TCCS internal citizenship. What else do you want? I am sure GCs will understand and accommodate such provisions in exchange of TC political equality on the basis of Constituent states instead of ethnicity.

This is the first time I hear these words from you, re Kifea. Why do you shout to me, then.

Ok. agreed.


So you agree with a senate composed as follows:

Senators of GCCS: 24 GCs (It might be 23 GCs + 1 TCs - Depends upon the number of internal TC citizens of GCCS)

Senators of TCCS: 16 TCs + 8 GCs


Half of the Senate including at least 9+ TC senators is required to pass or reject a bill.

[Kifeas]

Insan, Are you taking me for a ride?

[insan]

Insan, Are you taking me for a ride?

[Kifeas]

This is the first time I hear these words from you, re Kifea. Why do you shout to me, then.

Ok. agreed.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=1228&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

It is obvious that it is not the first time I talk about it.

So you agree with a senate composed as follows:

Senators of GCCS: 24 GCs (It might be 23 GCs + 1 TCs - Depends upon the number of internal TC citizens of GCCS)

Senators of TCCS: 16 TCs + 8 GCs

Half of the Senate including at least 9+ TC senators is required to pass or reject a bill.

With a 25% TCCS territory and 20%-25% of GC voting power within TCCS, clearly what you tried to imply above as a possible composition of a senate, cannot be the case.

The worst case senario for a TC perspective (i.e. if all GCs unite under one umbrella in the ellections,) will be 18 TCs and 6 GCs and to pass a bill it will require at least 13 Senators from each CS.

[insan]

The worst case senario for a TC perspective (i.e. if all GCs unite under one umbrella in the ellections,) will be 18 TCs and 6 GCs and to pass a bill it will require at least 13 Senators from each CS.

Ahaa.. ok. keep struggle to get a GC state with a TC minority in a so-called bi-communal, bi-zonal federation based on political equality of two communities.

[Kifeas]

Ahaa.. ok. keep struggle to get a GC state with a TC minority in a so-called bi-communal, bi-zonal federation based on political equality of two communities.

Where did you see the TC minority?? Explain???
In order to pass an unfavourable bill for TCs, the 6 GCs will need at least another 7 TCs to make up the 13 needed. If the bill is indeed going to be unfavourable for TCs, do you thing that anyone; set aside 7 TC senators will join forces with the GCs?

[Kifeas]

Insan, do we speak the same language in this forum, or what?

[insan]

In your worst case scenario, vote of 7 TC senators are required to pass a bill; even if the rest of the TC senators(11) vote against the bill. So what kind of political equality of two communities is this? This is political equality of two constituent states. We are talking about political equality of two communities.

[insan]

Insan, do we speak the same language in this forum, or what?

I think so.