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[DT.]

Only goes to show how Greek the south still is, so all this talk of we are all Cypriots is a load of bullshit.

How greek the south still is!!

You'd think a full scale invasion of 40,000 troops and the cleansing of 200,000 people from their homes would have diluted this greekness from these people.

[zan]

Only goes to show how Greek the south still is, so all this talk of we are all Cypriots is a load of bullshit.

How greek the south still is!!

You'd think a full scale invasion of 40,000 troops and the cleansing of 200,000 people from their homes would have diluted this greekness from these people.

I think you have just shot yourself in the foot yet again DT....Your foot must look like a colander....

By your above statement...Just goes to show that that is not what the intervention was about........You have succeeded in diluting us as you claim but we have no intention of diluting you.

[zan]

It is possible to have more than one language in any national anthem but it has not happened and that is the point here....




Look at the RSA national Anthem



South Africa's national anthem

Nkosi sikelel' iAfrika
Maluphakanyisw' uphondo lwayo,
Yizwa imithandazo yethu,
Nkosi sikelela, thina lusapho lwayo.
Morena boloka setjhaba sa heso,
O fedise dintwa la matshwenyeho,
O se boloke, O se boloke setjhaba sa heso,
Setjhaba sa South Afrika - South Afrika.

Uit die blou van onse hemel,
Uit die diepte van ons see,
Oor ons ewige gebergtes,
Waar die kranse antwoord gee,

Sounds the call to come together,
And united we shall stand,
Let us live and strive for freedom,
In South Africa our land.

Translation
The isiXhosa and isiZulu of the first stanza, the Sesotho of the second stanza and the Afrikaans of the third stanza translate into English as follows:

Lord, bless Africa
May her spirit rise high up
Hear thou our prayers
Lord bless us.
Lord, bless Africa
Banish wars and strife
Lord, bless our nation
Of South Africa.

Ringing out from our blue heavens
From our deep seas breaking round
Over everlasting mountains
Where the echoing crags resound ...




Not bad huh!!!....

Just as a mater of interest...This is what the Xhosa people sound like. They are great with the clicking sound they make as they talk...

[Marz]

Well ZAn having 2 languages in a national anthem work work, and by the way if the Greeks didnt come to CYprus first where there no Turks here then we wouldnt be on this Island, so it is how it is that we have ties with Greece but those ties arent as strong as they were.

Just like you hypocrits and VP who are Turkish have a Trukish national anthem and fly a Turk flag that makes you Turks and you havent shown that thats not want tyou want to represent yourself as.

[BC Numismatics]

As seen as Cyprus has 3 languages,there should be 3 versions of the Cypriot national anthem - in Cypriot Greek,in Cypriot Turkish,& in English.The words should reflect Cyprus' independence as a member state of the British Commonwealth.

Using the national anthems of both Greece & Turkey are extremely provocative.

Zan,prior to 1994,there were 2 versions of the South African national anthem - Die Stem Van Suid-Afrika (Afrikaans) & The Call of South Africa (English).

The British national anthem 'God Save The Queen' is retained as an official national anthem of all the Dominions,including New Zealand.In fact,I prefer the British national anthem,as 'God Defend New Zealand',to me,contains a very negative message,including the use of the racist term 'Pakeha'.

Aidan.

[humanist]

How coame its always the RoC that has to make changes? ........................ When will the Turkish speaking Cypriot community say we'll do this .......... in good gesture and aim for reconciliation. Aah but that is okay because they do not need the RoC as they have the support of Turkey. Why don't they then just come out and clearly say they don't want unification and stop wasting everyones' time.

[Nikitas]

First we must find the poet or the poem that will inspire all of us. Australians chose a folk song for their anthem, maybe we could do the same, we have several that are common to both sides. As for the flag, one with a donkey on it would do fine for me, and I am not joking. It would win us a lot of international PR points too. Definitely no cross or crescents which are national as well as religious symbols.

[Marz]

maybe we should have a picture of a topless woman as a flag, sitting on a donkey, on the beach.

[Expatkiwi]

Zan pointed out that South Africa's national anthem uses multiple languages. It is also an amalgamation of N'kosi Sikeli i'Afrika (What the Black Africans sang) and Die Stem van Suid Afrika (What the White South Africans sing). If this model is used for Cyprus, then part of this proposed Cypriot anthem would have the music for the Greek National Anthem for the first part, and the Turkish National Anthem for the second. Given the differences in both scores, it could not be done.

Regardless, something should be done about the anthems. TRNC using the Turkish Anthem and RoCy using the Greek anthem makes a mockery of both their claims to independence.

Incidentally, Aidan, I do like 'God Defend New Zealand'. 'God Save the Queen' is appropriate as well due to the fact that Her Majesty Queen Eleizabeth II is New Zealand's head of state, but the latter should be restricted to Royal and Vice-Regal occasions.

[BC Numismatics]

Dean,I don't reckon that 'God Save The Queen' should be restricted only to royal & viceregal occasions.As a retired constitutional ally to former Governor-General Sir Michael Hardie Boys,I am very defensive of the British national anthem.

I don't agree with using the music from either the Greek or the Turkish national anthems,either alone or combined,as it just doesn't reflect Cyprus' independent status.

The Cypriot national anthem has to be an original composition,not plagiarised & hashed together.

Aidan.