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[pantheman]

You guys are an absolute fucking joke.... The siege has stopped us having all those things that tjis person is talking about and you blame us.....What a bunch of absolute wankers you are. Pantheman.....You really need to listen to EVERYTHING I say and stop picking and choosing bits that you think matter. I have said why the country has gone forward since the Annan Plan and why there is no infrastructure in the system. You just don't seem to want to listen.

What was promised has not happened because everytime we try to do something positive you fuckers stop us and now you are crying false tears for my people..."I really feel sorry for this person'. What a load of tosh. What you are is rubbing your hands with glee because you have one more piece of information that you distort and use against us. Hoew many times have we asked for the lifting of isolation on this forum and you say that you will not because it makes us suffer and now its our fault.


Miltiades, you can take your "RoC' and roll it up and stick it where the sun don't shine.....You guys think that you were going to make us feel ashamed by posting this story but all it has done is make us angry because it is a direct result of the isolation and siege you have imposed on us. Another example of what we went through when you did this agin in 1963. Our children, our students our old and our families are suffering at your hands and still you are quoting numbers out of the Greek propaganda books. There is no 200,000 people Miltiades and when you quote that number it shows where you are getting your information from. Are you going to as foolish as Piratis was to challenge me on that figure...Go ahead. PLEASE>>>>>>>>>>


We have Germans turning up on our shores to see if they can invest in our students future that will bring in the taxes that will pay for all those things that you show false concern about but what do you do....Your politicians are hard at work trying to stop it...What will you do now...How many of you lying bastards will stand outside your government offices protesting that you are not happy about the situation and these poor people are suffering and you give a shit....Come on...How many of you.....NONE, that's how many..........Not a single one of you......


Greece invaded your our country, at which time we were being slaughtered and then you stole our republic and Turkey came along and preserved a part of for the very peole you tried to exterminate and all this is Turkeys fault...Did you even read the 250 of condemnation of Greek actions I posted....Not a single one of you I bet.......What a bunch of hypocrites...

Zan, there you have it, total bollocks again. You just retaliate with garbage you have been spouting over and over again.

This is the type of mentality I am talking about.

Listen to you, 'we isolated you, Fuck off, you isolated yourselves and you made 200,001 + GC homeless not to mention the ones you murdered. So please don't play the fucking victim again, you are just full of shit mate.

Go protest to your puppet state for a change in policy and maybe, just maybe we can all get somewhere. Otherwise you will rot in that 'isolation' as you like to call it.

The cheek, you bend us over and shaft us and you want us to say thanks please come again. Fuck you man.

[Nikitas]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

[pantheman]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

Nikitas,

save your breath man, no point telling those little shits anything useful. They will only come back and tell you to stick it where the sun don't shine. Because its just there way or the highway.

Just give us back the RoC passports, ID, pensions, medical treatments and god only knows what else you sad bastards are getting from the RoC that you so easily condemn and build a fucking wall. Then we'll see how you get on and how long Turkey will keep paying you scroungers for.

You just don't get it do you. You have the ability to affect change. You want it or not? And please don't keep bring up that Anakara Plan, if you were in our shoes you would have done the same. You only accepted that Plan because it gave you EVERYTHING you asked for but it gave us NOTHING. Wrong, it would have given us the loss of our nation, our identity, our religion, our everything and still expected us to accept it. Well, dream on brother, the Ankara Plan is dead and gone, so please sing another F song will ya?

[Viewpoint]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

Your imposed isolation allows Turkey the opportunity to have financial control over the TRNC, do you realize this?

If we had direct flights and tourism flourished to its full potential we woudl not need to look to Turkey for support and become less financially dependent, do you bite the hand that feeds you? If you allowed us to feed ourselves then we could turn around to Turkey and hold on the GCs also have rights but for now you keeping us isolated means we are at the mercy of Turkey, so now do you realize you are cutting off your nose despite your face?

[pantheman]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

Your imposed isolation allows Turkey the opportunity to have financial control over the TRNC, do you realize this?

If we had direct flights and tourism flourished to its full potential we woudl not need to look to Turkey for support and become less financially dependent, do you bite the hand that feeds you? If you allowed us to feed ourselves then we could turn around to Turkey and hold on the GCs also have rights but for now you keeping us isolated means we are at the mercy of Turkey, so now do you realize you are cutting off your nose despite your face?

VP, this is the most positive thing I have ever heard you say, Bravo.

But really, do you really mean that you would embrace the RoC or your GC brothers if you were able to self sufficient?

Somehow, I am finding hard to believe that you really do mean that. I think you would still look to turkey, beacause, I don't think you honestly have the political or military power to do otherwise. So in actual fact we would be even worst off.

I would like to believe what you are saying, but when I get Zan and others who are constantly tellings where to get off, I think is all just a con trick.

heres to hope though

[Viewpoint]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

Nikitas,

save your breath man, no point telling those little shits anything useful. They will only come back and tell you to stick it where the sun don't shine. Because its just there way or the highway.

Just give us back the RoC passports, ID, pensions, medical treatments and god only knows what else you sad bastards are getting from the RoC that you so easily condemn and build a fucking wall. Then we'll see how you get on and how long Turkey will keep paying you scroungers for.

You just don't get it do you. You have the ability to affect change. You want it or not? And please don't keep bring up that Anakara Plan, if you were in our shoes you would have done the same. You only accepted that Plan because it gave you EVERYTHING you asked for but it gave us NOTHING. Wrong, it would have given us the loss of our nation, our identity, our religion, our everything and still expected us to accept it. Well, dream on brother, the Ankara Plan is dead and gone, so please sing another F song will ya?

Prey tell how we can effect change?

Tell your leaders to stop issuing passports etc and watch the negative backlash from the world, can you then claim representating all Cypriots?

[pantheman]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

Nikitas,

save your breath man, no point telling those little shits anything useful. They will only come back and tell you to stick it where the sun don't shine. Because its just there way or the highway.

Just give us back the RoC passports, ID, pensions, medical treatments and god only knows what else you sad bastards are getting from the RoC that you so easily condemn and build a fucking wall. Then we'll see how you get on and how long Turkey will keep paying you scroungers for.

You just don't get it do you. You have the ability to affect change. You want it or not? And please don't keep bring up that Anakara Plan, if you were in our shoes you would have done the same. You only accepted that Plan because it gave you EVERYTHING you asked for but it gave us NOTHING. Wrong, it would have given us the loss of our nation, our identity, our religion, our everything and still expected us to accept it. Well, dream on brother, the Ankara Plan is dead and gone, so please sing another F song will ya?

Prey tell how we can effect change?

Tell your leaders to stop issuing passports etc and watch the negative backlash from the world, can you then claim representating all Cypriots?

You know full well the RoC cannot refuse you the passports, bacause then you would have something to shout about. Given you hatred for our community, I don't see you guys refusing to apply for them, do you? So now whos biting the hand that feeds them?

As for the change, when was the last demonstartion against the illegal importation of setllers, when was the last demstration for the poor job prospects wheres the lobbying to make compromise to hold talks etc etc.

Doesn't happen, you lot are all very vocal here, you shout your mouths off, but you are shouting at the wrong people.

Oh, I am sorry, turkey has no respect for human rights, you might just get your sorry asrses slung in jail or even killed for insulting turkishness or something.

Com on whers your plan to make the change?

[Viewpoint]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

Your imposed isolation allows Turkey the opportunity to have financial control over the TRNC, do you realize this?

If we had direct flights and tourism flourished to its full potential we woudl not need to look to Turkey for support and become less financially dependent, do you bite the hand that feeds you? If you allowed us to feed ourselves then we could turn around to Turkey and hold on the GCs also have rights but for now you keeping us isolated means we are at the mercy of Turkey, so now do you realize you are cutting off your nose despite your face?

VP, this is the most positive thing I have ever heard you say, Bravo.

But really, do you really mean that you would embrace the RoC or your GC brothers if you were able to self sufficient?

Somehow, I am finding hard to believe that you really do mean that. I think you would still look to turkey, beacause, I don't think you honestly have the political or military power to do otherwise. So in actual fact we would be even worst off.

I would like to believe what you are saying, but when I get Zan and others who are constantly tellings where to get off, I think is all just a con trick.

heres to hope though

Believe it because its the the truth you have just taken a step forward in realizing our situation as long as we are forced to live in isolation we cannot bite the hand that feeds us, we woudl never do that but allowed the flexibility to stand on our own to feet we would see that we can build a united Cyprus where it would be better for everyone who chooses to live here. e are a peaceful people and just want to get on with our lives, we have no problem sharing but we will not be dominated or steam rollered thats why a structure has to be found that can accomadate both sides demands, you have to be allowed to return, and the Turkish army has to go, some settlers have to go we are not against these things its how we are going to get there is what is important. But for now and with your policies we have no hope in agreeing anything with you guys, its a dead end so we have come to accept assimilation with Turkey as our only option.

[Viewpoint]

There is external and internal business. Assuming there is isolation as you say, which has not stopped the selling of GC properties to foreign investors who manage to get there despite the embargoes, that leaves internal business. That internal business is in the hands of an oligarchy and that is the major problem.

Shake off the Turkish stranglehold first and then complain about what the RoC is doing to you, assuming it is doing anything to you.

You talk about embargoes but all kinds of foreign dignitaries and delegations manage to make their way to the TRNC, the EU has offices there, you operate two ports and an airport. Produce from the TRNC is finding its way to Munich and London fruit markets.

Perhaps the problems is not any embargo but the inability to create wealth. And that has nothing to do with embargoes.

Nikitas,

save your breath man, no point telling those little shits anything useful. They will only come back and tell you to stick it where the sun don't shine. Because its just there way or the highway.

Just give us back the RoC passports, ID, pensions, medical treatments and god only knows what else you sad bastards are getting from the RoC that you so easily condemn and build a fucking wall. Then we'll see how you get on and how long Turkey will keep paying you scroungers for.

You just don't get it do you. You have the ability to affect change. You want it or not? And please don't keep bring up that Anakara Plan, if you were in our shoes you would have done the same. You only accepted that Plan because it gave you EVERYTHING you asked for but it gave us NOTHING. Wrong, it would have given us the loss of our nation, our identity, our religion, our everything and still expected us to accept it. Well, dream on brother, the Ankara Plan is dead and gone, so please sing another F song will ya?

Prey tell how we can effect change?

Tell your leaders to stop issuing passports etc and watch the negative backlash from the world, can you then claim representating all Cypriots?

You know full well the RoC cannot refuse you the passports, bacause then you would have something to shout about. Given you hatred for our community, I don't see you guys refusing to apply for them, do you? So now whos biting the hand that feeds them?

As for the change, when was the last demonstartion against the illegal importation of setllers, when was the last demstration for the poor job prospects wheres the lobbying to make compromise to hold talks etc etc.

Doesn't happen, you lot are all very vocal here, you shout your mouths off, but you are shouting at the wrong people.

Oh, I am sorry, turkey has no respect for human rights, you might just get your sorry asrses slung in jail or even killed for insulting turkishness or something.

Com on whers your plan to make the change?

The examples you have provied are hardiy mind blowing, just last week there were a number of unions who came together and formed a platform to address the issues you mention but TCs have not shown any interest as they know full well the GC intrangience and lack of commitment to any solution that will not give them 101% of what they demand.

[umit07]

For god sake have you forgotten that we live on a small island thats main income is from sectors like education,tourism and construction. We don't have heavy industry or other big service sectors other than tourism when you combine this with the fact that most cypriots are well educated what do you expect? Don't tell me there is an influx of jobs in the south! Loads of people immigrate because they cannot find jobs as well. Being embargoed we in the north might have more people immigrating but this is the curse of living on a small island.