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Postby zan » Sun Feb 03, 2008 2:51 am

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zan wrote:Give it a rest for fucks sake.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


I agree Zan. I presume you are referring to the bomb blasts in Iraq.

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You see a man standing in the street shouting about his faith and you think him mad...Or a nutjob as you like to coin it. What do you do....You don a sandwich board and join him on the street shouting obscenities about wanting to nuke his people, his country and his ancestors.....The rest of the people around you going about heir business just see one nutob shouting at another nutjob. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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Postby BC Numismatics » Sun Feb 03, 2008 4:26 am

rawk wrote:I agree old mate!

I think old Eliko is a bit of all right, not so much a nutjob as a stirrer.

Hi FreeSpirit

I think Sqamers got his arse roasted over at Limassol though. I think he's free lancing at the moment.

I can't suss the guy, he's either a complete knob jockey or a very clever mischief maker whose got some sort of agenda to make muslims around here as fall guys for what happens a bit east of us.

He's been something up his own arse at Limassol Musk though, seems to be running their website, probably still is, as the poor saps haven't even sussed they've got one!

That other poisoned dwarf, BC Aidan Workshy deserves everything you can throw at him!

How the hell the New Zealand immigration let that twisted demented excuse of a tosspot in, I'll never fathom. Puts you off going there!

Nutjobs of the world unite.

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Rawk,have you admitted to being a nutcase,just like your pal the Nazi Pope of Rome?

You certainly are nuts.In fact,you should go & grow a brain!

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Postby rawk » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:28 pm

zan wrote:
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zan wrote:Give it a rest for fucks sake.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


I agree Zan. I presume you are referring to the bomb blasts in Iraq.

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You see a man standing in the street shouting about his faith and you think him mad...Or a nutjob as you like to coin it. What do you do....You don a sandwich board and join him on the street shouting obscenities about wanting to nuke his people, his country and his ancestors.....The rest of the people around you going about heir business just see one nutob shouting at another nutjob. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


2 things Zan.

1 I can do it better.

2 You forgot to mention vulnerable disabled children being used to carry bombs detonated by cowardly scum from a safe distance.

I'll just get back to my sandwich board then. Anything else to comment on or is that you done now?

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Postby zan » Sun Feb 03, 2008 12:57 pm

rawk wrote:
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zan wrote:Give it a rest for fucks sake.... :roll: :roll: :roll:


I agree Zan. I presume you are referring to the bomb blasts in Iraq.

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You see a man standing in the street shouting about his faith and you think him mad...Or a nutjob as you like to coin it. What do you do....You don a sandwich board and join him on the street shouting obscenities about wanting to nuke his people, his country and his ancestors.....The rest of the people around you going about heir business just see one nutob shouting at another nutjob. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


2 things Zan.

1 I can do it better.

2 You forgot to mention vulnerable disabled children being used to carry bombs detonated by cowardly scum from a safe distance.

I'll just get back to my sandwich board then. Anything else to comment on or is that you done now?

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Delusions of grandeur to add to your list of ailments....You doing it better is not what the outsider sees but hey ho! You seem to be incapable of separating those that have nothing to do with these discusting crimes or to equate them with those who drop bombs on innocent people from "A Safe Distance" all for oil. Next time you go to the supermarket and there is only one loaf of bread left and you want it....Don't worry about the little old lady that is reaching for it......As I said..One nut job verses another.....
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Postby rawk » Sun Feb 03, 2008 7:45 pm

Okay Zan.Whats your answer? Just ignore the loonies and hope they will all go away and decent people just get on with their business?

I think that is how we got to here. These fruitcakes don't wear sandwich boards, they use the internet and forums to promote the poisonous hate and apologistic nonsense to excuse senseless acts of murder.

And if you don't challenge these witless fools and make a stand and use every weapon in your armoury including ridicule and sarcasm, then when they come for you, there will be no one left.

Oh and, "Delusions of grandeur!"

I don't think so. I go with Miltiadies, I'm just a human being, here by a lucky twist of fate that gave some primitive monkeys a chance to evolve.

And God? Don't make me laugh! When I'm dead, I'm dead! Thats it, no heaven, no afterlife, the end!

But I do live on, through my children and I have a few, having been married twice, they carry my genes into the future and if they ever discover how to unlock genetic memory, my descendants can find me.

All of which makes a lot more sense that the poisonous religious drivel that Qamersland has attempted to promote on this BB that excuses the bestial behaviour of those who share his world vision all through the revelation of a illiterate mystic who saw an angel several hundred years ago.

Over to you.

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Postby zan » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:09 pm

rawk wrote:Okay Zan.Whats your answer? Just ignore the loonies and hope they will all go away and decent people just get on with their business?

I think that is how we got to here. These fruitcakes don't wear sandwich boards, they use the internet and forums to promote the poisonous hate and apologistic nonsense to excuse senseless acts of murder.

And if you don't challenge these witless fools and make a stand and use every weapon in your armoury including ridicule and sarcasm, then when they come for you, there will be no one left.

Oh and, "Delusions of grandeur!"

I don't think so. I go with Miltiadies, I'm just a human being, here by a lucky twist of fate that gave some primitive monkeys a chance to evolve.

And God? Don't make me laugh! When I'm dead, I'm dead! Thats it, no heaven, no afterlife, the end!

But I do live on, through my children and I have a few, having been married twice, they carry my genes into the future and if they ever discover how to unlock genetic memory, my descendants can find me.

All of which makes a lot more sense that the poisonous religious drivel that Qamersland has attempted to promote on this BB that excuses the bestial behaviour of those who share his world vision all through the revelation of a illiterate mystic who saw an angel several hundred years ago.

Over to you.

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I haven't read all that he has written or yours for hat matter but the general massage I am getting from him is, yes he is spouting off religion as the only option but he is distancing himself from terrorism. Any peaceful movement, whether you believe it or not, and I am with you on this one, should be tolerated if not respected. You on the other hand have made statements that condemn the religion and not the man and I believe you are playing into the hands of the terrorists. He is not knocking on your door but is on an open forum so let him be and stop wasting your time. It just makes you look like more of a zealot than he is. Maybe you can allow him the platform to distance themselves from the terrorist element in the religion.
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Postby rawk » Sun Feb 03, 2008 8:46 pm

"I haven't read all that he has written or yours for hat matter but the general massage I am getting from him is, yes he is spouting off religion as the only option but he is distancing himself from terrorism. Any peaceful movement, whether you believe it or not, and I am with you on this one, should be tolerated if not respected. You on the other hand have made statements that condemn the religion and not the man and I believe you are playing into the hands of the terrorists. He is not knocking on your door but is on an open forum so let him be and stop wasting your time. It just makes you look like more of a zealot than he is. Maybe you can allow him the platform to distance themselves from the terrorist element in the religion."

Indeed Zan. If indeed you had had weeks of watching how this person has failed to respond to some very articulate and convincing arguments by other members of this forum including Tim Drayton who demonstrated a deeper understanding of the Qu'ran that this zealot Qamersland, you may understand the frustration that arises when once again the same dogma of peace and love is trotted out but the harsh realities of militant Islam are skated over and blissfully ignored when presented to him.

All fanatical movements have their apologists.

When I lived in the UK a few years ago, we had the Animal Liberation Front. Old ladies would knock on your door asking you to sign petitions against vivisection, peaceful protests would be held against fox hunting, mink farms would be boycotted.

Genuine protest by genuine people but behind the old ladies at the back of the crowd were the men with bricks, there were thugs who threatened staff at research institutes, the arsonists and bomb makers who even threatened Oxford University if they built a research lab.

Then the fight back began, a 16-year-old schoolboy, Laurie Pycroft used the internet to fight back against the intimidation by the thugs, and it worked.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 16,00.html

All movements have their nice side, I'm not a zealot but I should be free to make my point against someone who behaves like one. And Sqamersland does not attempt to distance himself from the terrorist elements of his religion, he attempts to explain it by blaming Blair, Bush and the invasion of Iraq.

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Postby FreeSpirit » Sun Feb 03, 2008 9:30 pm

zan wrote:I haven't read all that he has written or yours for hat matter but the general massage I am getting from him is, yes he is spouting off religion as the only option but he is distancing himself from terrorism. Any peaceful movement, whether you believe it or not, and I am with you on this one, should be tolerated if not respected. You on the other hand have made statements that condemn the religion and not the man and I believe you are playing into the hands of the terrorists. He is not knocking on your door but is on an open forum so let him be and stop wasting your time. It just makes you look like more of a zealot than he is. Maybe you can allow him the platform to distance themselves from the terrorist element in the religion.


The only thing that I keep asking this man is to put his own house in order first, none of us come on here spouting the virtues of the UK or western culture, yet this man refuses to go home or wherever he comes from and sort out his own backyard.
Who in their right minds would choose islam right now with all the barbaric goings on.
Remember nobody here is trying to sell our way of life to him.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:00 pm

rawk wrote:"I haven't read all that he has written or yours for hat matter but the general massage I am getting from him is, yes he is spouting off religion as the only option but he is distancing himself from terrorism. Any peaceful movement, whether you believe it or not, and I am with you on this one, should be tolerated if not respected. You on the other hand have made statements that condemn the religion and not the man and I believe you are playing into the hands of the terrorists. He is not knocking on your door but is on an open forum so let him be and stop wasting your time. It just makes you look like more of a zealot than he is. Maybe you can allow him the platform to distance themselves from the terrorist element in the religion."

Indeed Zan. If indeed you had had weeks of watching how this person has failed to respond to some very articulate and convincing arguments by other members of this forum including Tim Drayton who demonstrated a deeper understanding of the Qu'ran that this zealot Qamersland, you may understand the frustration that arises when once again the same dogma of peace and love is trotted out but the harsh realities of militant Islam are skated over and blissfully ignored when presented to him.

All fanatical movements have their apologists.

When I lived in the UK a few years ago, we had the Animal Liberation Front. Old ladies would knock on your door asking you to sign petitions against vivisection, peaceful protests would be held against fox hunting, mink farms would be boycotted.

Genuine protest by genuine people but behind the old ladies at the back of the crowd were the men with bricks, there were thugs who threatened staff at research institutes, the arsonists and bomb makers who even threatened Oxford University if they built a research lab.

Then the fight back began, a 16-year-old schoolboy, Laurie Pycroft used the internet to fight back against the intimidation by the thugs, and it worked.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story ... 16,00.html

All movements have their nice side, I'm not a zealot but I should be free to make my point against someone who behaves like one. And Sqamersland does not attempt to distance himself from the terrorist elements of his religion, he attempts to explain it by blaming Blair, Bush and the invasion of Iraq.

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Sounds to me that this is more a political argument rawk and not the religious one you are fighting....I find Blair and Bush guilty as well but have no religion of which they can use as a scapegoat.
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Postby zan » Sun Feb 03, 2008 10:01 pm

FreeSpirit wrote:
zan wrote:I haven't read all that he has written or yours for hat matter but the general massage I am getting from him is, yes he is spouting off religion as the only option but he is distancing himself from terrorism. Any peaceful movement, whether you believe it or not, and I am with you on this one, should be tolerated if not respected. You on the other hand have made statements that condemn the religion and not the man and I believe you are playing into the hands of the terrorists. He is not knocking on your door but is on an open forum so let him be and stop wasting your time. It just makes you look like more of a zealot than he is. Maybe you can allow him the platform to distance themselves from the terrorist element in the religion.


The only thing that I keep asking this man is to put his own house in order first, none of us come on here spouting the virtues of the UK or western culture, yet this man refuses to go home or wherever he comes from and sort out his own backyard.
Who in their right minds would choose islam right now with all the barbaric goings on.
Remember nobody here is trying to sell our way of life to him.


I suppose the Christian crusades that are going on is much more attractive..... :roll:
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