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[FreeSpirit]

I understand your point, FreeSpirit, but how liberating to the Iraqi people is the current state of affairs? The Cheny-Rumsfeldt-Bush triumverate in its "infinite wisdom" must own responsibility for opening "Pandora's Box." The consequences America suffers are bad enough; those suffered by Iraq are far worse.

These aren't iraqis behind this, look what happened to Japan and Germany after the war ended
They were bombed far worse than iraq, the bombings on Germany makes the iraq skirmish look like a garden firework display.
Look how well those two countries fared under allied control; the reason, no scummbag muslims around stirring up trouble.
When will you people wake up and give over with this anti western garbage.
There is a plague sweeping the world today; that plague is islam.

I could show you how much my city was bombed during the WWII blitz, far worse than anything iraq suffered, I was born at a time when my city was being bombed regularly by the Germans, our playgrounds were the bombed building sites and disused air raid shelters, only in recent years were the air raid shelters at my old school demolished, my father worked in a factory during the daytime and was a fireman at night, my grandfather was fetched out of retirement to drive trains and help with the war effort.
Just remember WWII lasted 6 years not 6 weeks

How many German soldiers are still walking about then???????

Zan for the umpteenth time of asking :- And your reason is?

The picture meant I am not spoon feeding you......

Dug yourself into a hole you mean. So come on what did you mean by

How many German soldiers are still walking about then??????? [/

[Filitsa]

I understand your point, FreeSpirit, but how liberating to the Iraqi people is the current state of affairs? The Cheny-Rumsfeldt-Bush triumverate in its "infinite wisdom" must own responsibility for opening "Pandora's Box." The consequences America suffers are bad enough; those suffered by Iraq are far worse.

These aren't iraqis behind this, look what happened to Japan and Germany after the war ended
They were bombed far worse than iraq, the bombings on Germany makes the iraq skirmish look like a garden firework display.
Look how well those two countries fared under allied control; the reason, no scummbag muslims around stirring up trouble.
When will you people wake up and give over with this anti western garbage.
There is a plague sweeping the world today; that plague is islam.

I could show you how much my city was bombed during the WWII blitz, far worse than anything iraq suffered, I was born at a time when my city was being bombed regularly by the Germans, our playgrounds were the bombed building sites and disused air raid shelters, only in recent years were the air raid shelters at my old school demolished, my father worked in a factory during the daytime and was a fireman at night, my grandfather was fetched out of retirement to drive trains and help with the war effort.
Just remember WWII lasted 6 years not 6 weeks

>>the reason, no scummbag muslims around stirring up trouble.<<


FreeSpirit, it is this very reason that distinguishes the nature of war in Iraq as being very different than the nature of WWII. No comparison. Did the "triumverate" anticipate Muslim insurgence or not?

Actualy there was disagreement between Bush and Blair over how to run things after the glorious liberation, Blair wanted to do things the way that conquering forces did in the far east after WWII, where the Japanes were allowed to continue policing under very strict supervision. Bush got his way and sacked the police and armed forces.

For the record it is not muslim insurgence it is terrorism orchestrated from outside iraq; it comes mainly from inside Syria and well proven from Iran along osama Bi Liner..

Is this to imply that Bush and Blair lacked the military intelligence to see this coming?

[FreeSpirit]

I understand your point, FreeSpirit, but how liberating to the Iraqi people is the current state of affairs? The Cheny-Rumsfeldt-Bush triumverate in its "infinite wisdom" must own responsibility for opening "Pandora's Box." The consequences America suffers are bad enough; those suffered by Iraq are far worse.

These aren't iraqis behind this, look what happened to Japan and Germany after the war ended
They were bombed far worse than iraq, the bombings on Germany makes the iraq skirmish look like a garden firework display.
Look how well those two countries fared under allied control; the reason, no scummbag muslims around stirring up trouble.
When will you people wake up and give over with this anti western garbage.
There is a plague sweeping the world today; that plague is islam.

I could show you how much my city was bombed during the WWII blitz, far worse than anything iraq suffered, I was born at a time when my city was being bombed regularly by the Germans, our playgrounds were the bombed building sites and disused air raid shelters, only in recent years were the air raid shelters at my old school demolished, my father worked in a factory during the daytime and was a fireman at night, my grandfather was fetched out of retirement to drive trains and help with the war effort.
Just remember WWII lasted 6 years not 6 weeks

>>the reason, no scummbag muslims around stirring up trouble.<<


FreeSpirit, it is this very reason that distinguishes the nature of war in Iraq as being very different than the nature of WWII. No comparison. Did the "triumverate" anticipate Muslim insurgence or not?

Actualy there was disagreement between Bush and Blair over how to run things after the glorious liberation, Blair wanted to do things the way that conquering forces did in the far east after WWII, where the Japanes were allowed to continue policing under very strict supervision. Bush got his way and sacked the police and armed forces.

For the record it is not muslim insurgence it is terrorism orchestrated from outside iraq; it comes mainly from inside Syria and well proven from Iran along osama Bi Liner..

Is this to imply that Bush and Blair lacked the military intelligence to see this coming?

Two things
1) As I said Blair was well aware of how to deal with it after the liberation Bush Vetoed it.
2) Also I've said previously well over 90% of these terrorists are from outside iraq, Irans involvement has been well documented.

[Filitsa]

FreeSpirit, your answer continues to be inconclusive, so I'll read between the lines and refrain from pushing further.

[miltiades]

No Filitsa , the Iraqis are a liberated people but not as it seems from the Savages who spread death and destruction on a daily basis. There is NO excuse whatsoever for these barbaric acts by these lunatics.

The problem is that when you were a little boy you watched too many black & white Tarzan movies where they had "savages" and other make believe characters like "Cheeta" and "Jane" but in real life its a little more complicated than that Millie... there are factions within Islam like Sunni and Shia, and even more factions within those that the US/UK manipulates to get its way.

Divide and conquer is the method used for decades to keep your very own country (Cyprus – in case you forgot) in turmoil by the bigger and nastier powers so it should be no surprise to you that Iraqis are killing Iraqis just as Cypriots were killing Cypriots at one time not too long ago.

I expect a man of your age to know better than to jump to conclusions about what causes inter-communal conflict and it has nothing to do with “savages” I’m afraid to disappoint...

Re xilon , these bastards are blowing themselves up in market places , such as the last savage attack , and you have the nerve to compare with events in Cyprus . Are you plain stupid or merely pretending to be. You give the impression of being in possession of some education. Ask your self mate , would you condone an event where a G/C from let us say Trikomo , who lost his ancestral home following the invasion , goes to his village and blows himself up in the village square killing men women and children ?? I bloody well wouldn't , I will be thoroughly ashamed that such a barbaric attack was perpetrated by a G/C . These savages are driven to commit such hideous acts by their blind faith and people like you excuse them !!!
ps : Whats Tarzan and Jane have to do with Iraqi suicide shit bags !

[FreeSpirit]

FreeSpirit, your answer continues to be inconclusive, so I'll read between the lines and refrain from pushing further.

Theuy couldn't be more precise if they were written in Janrt & John language.
Read as written.

[Filitsa]

Okay, thank you, I'll pursue further:

FreeSpirit wrote:

Two things
1) As I said Blair was well aware of how to deal with it after the liberation Bush Vetoed it.
2) Also I've said previously well over 90% of these terrorists are from outside iraq, Irans involvement has been well documented.

To deal with what? ... the current 90% of terrorists that are from outside of Iraq? And what was Bush's rationale for the veto?

[FreeSpirit]

Okay, thank you, I'll pursue further:

FreeSpirit wrote:

Two things
1) As I said Blair was well aware of how to deal with it after the liberation Bush Vetoed it.
2) Also I've said previously well over 90% of these terrorists are from outside iraq, Irans involvement has been well documented.

To deal with what? ... the current 90% of terrorists that are from outside of Iraq? And what was Bush's rationale for the veto?

The best way of maintaining law and order after the liberation.

You are implying that the terrorists are from inside Iraq because of UK & US prescence, 700 hundred rockets have been fired at the British base in Basra during the last 12 months the rockets were not from iraq but Iran.
Regarding Bush's rationale ask him.

[Filitsa]

Hello FreeSpirit,

I'm implying no such thing. My point is that had the U.S. not invaded Iraq, it would not be in it's current sad state of affairs no matter from where these insurgence come. My question is: Did Cheney, Rumsfeldt, and Bush such an insurgency or not?

[miltiades]

Hello FreeSpirit,

I'm implying no such thing. My point is that had the U.S. not invaded Iraq, it would not be in it's current sad state of affairs no matter from where these insurgence come. My question is: Did Cheney, Rumsfeldt, and Bush such an insurgency or not?

At 62 years old , and can never understand the love relationship between Cypriots and savages !! The Iraqi "WAR " can come to end tomorrow if these f..ng barbarians would somehow forego their spiritual decease and act in a civilized manner !! The Cypriots , excluding my self and a few others , are in love with these blistering ignorant illiterates , Why I ask my self , why on earth do we in Cyprus have to align ourselves with these garbage people who blow them selves up in public places !! What a pivotal , unethical , position to take. Damn these bastards who kill their own people and to hell with those who pretend , (fucking idiots ) to understand why !