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[FreeSpirit]

"Of no consequence"? You're kidding, right? How then did Bush et al. expect the coalition forces to go about defending Iraq if they couldn't anticipate their enemy?]

How could anyone expect these idiotic terrorists to go around blowing up the people that they are claiming to support.

[FreeSpirit]

Do you know that there are close to 100 different insurgent groups in Iraq (and yes, many of them come trained in terrorism from Islamic nations outside of Iraq)?

And I suppose you know this to be true because you have their names, addresses and telephone numbers.

[miltiades]

Hello FreeSpirit,

I'm implying no such thing. My point is that had the U.S. not invaded Iraq, it would not be in it's current sad state of affairs no matter from where these insurgence come. My question is: Did Cheney, Rumsfeldt, and Bush such an insurgency or not?

At 62 years old , and can never understand the love relationship between Cypriots and savages !! The Iraqi "WAR " can come to end tomorrow if these f..ng barbarians would somehow forego their spiritual decease and act in a civilized manner !! The Cypriots , excluding my self and a few others , are in love with these blistering ignorant illiterates , Why I ask my self , why on earth do we in Cyprus have to align ourselves with these garbage people who blow them selves up in public places !! What a pivotal , unethical , position to take. Damn these bastards who kill their own people and to hell with those who pretend , (fucking idiots ) to understand why !

miltiades, what you are suggesting is that the people of Iraq should surrender themselves to the aggressors.

Strange how you are unable to accept capitulation in your own country don't you think?.

Same principle on a much smaller scale I'll grant you.

Eliko , I'm going to be rude to you . Are you just plain thick or are you winding me up ? The people of Iraq are being slaughtered by the savages blowing themselves up in public places , where is your grotesque assumption that the people of Iraq are fighting the !aggressor " Do you read or watch news and if so have you noticed that there is in place an Iraqi government that is trying its utmost to control these savages .
These barbarians are not , I repeat are not fighting the " aggressor " but killing the innocent Iraqis , where do you and the other misguided individual keep your brains ffs ?? How many more innocents will be blown up by these prehistoric monsters before it sinks in that if they stopped peace will occur immediately >

Does it never occur to you that perhaps the people of Iraq do not WANT the imposed 'Democracy' ?.

Accepting THAT fact, may throw some light on the terrible actions that are now taking place.

There is no such thing as a 'WAR' in Iraq, such a title conjures up a certain degree of 'Honour' and the aggressors have no right to lay claim to such.

In my humble opinion.

Mate , the savages have recently used mentally disabled children , yes Dawns Syndromes sufferers are only children , to spread death and destruction in a fucking pet market ,, ask your self were these savages fighting the aggressor or resisting democracy !! You are making a fool of yourself in not accepting realities. There is a government in Iraq that the people voted in power.Sadam and his henchmen have gone , freedom and yes democracy has to be given a chance , the allahu ahbar brutes must be contained and eliminated , these are the cause of the daily killings in Iraq.

[Eliko]

Hello FreeSpirit,

I'm implying no such thing. My point is that had the U.S. not invaded Iraq, it would not be in it's current sad state of affairs no matter from where these insurgence come. My question is: Did Cheney, Rumsfeldt, and Bush such an insurgency or not?

At 62 years old , and can never understand the love relationship between Cypriots and savages !! The Iraqi "WAR " can come to end tomorrow if these f..ng barbarians would somehow forego their spiritual decease and act in a civilized manner !! The Cypriots , excluding my self and a few others , are in love with these blistering ignorant illiterates , Why I ask my self , why on earth do we in Cyprus have to align ourselves with these garbage people who blow them selves up in public places !! What a pivotal , unethical , position to take. Damn these bastards who kill their own people and to hell with those who pretend , (fucking idiots ) to understand why !

miltiades, what you are suggesting is that the people of Iraq should surrender themselves to the aggressors.

Strange how you are unable to accept capitulation in your own country don't you think?.

Same principle on a much smaller scale I'll grant you.

Eliko , I'm going to be rude to you . Are you just plain thick or are you winding me up ? The people of Iraq are being slaughtered by the savages blowing themselves up in public places , where is your grotesque assumption that the people of Iraq are fighting the !aggressor " Do you read or watch news and if so have you noticed that there is in place an Iraqi government that is trying its utmost to control these savages .
These barbarians are not , I repeat are not fighting the " aggressor " but killing the innocent Iraqis , where do you and the other misguided individual keep your brains ffs ?? How many more innocents will be blown up by these prehistoric monsters before it sinks in that if they stopped peace will occur immediately >

Does it never occur to you that perhaps the people of Iraq do not WANT the imposed 'Democracy' ?.

Accepting THAT fact, may throw some light on the terrible actions that are now taking place.

There is no such thing as a 'WAR' in Iraq, such a title conjures up a certain degree of 'Honour' and the aggressors have no right to lay claim to such.

In my humble opinion.

Mate , the savages have recently used mentally disabled children , yes Dawns Syndromes sufferers are only children , to spread death and destruction in a fucking pet market ,, ask your self were these savages fighting the aggressor or resisting democracy !! You are making a fool of yourself in not accepting realities. There is a government in Iraq that the people voted in power.Sadam and his henchmen have gone , freedom and yes democracy has to be given a chance , the allahu ahbar brutes must be contained and eliminated , these are the cause of the daily killings in Iraq.

Actually I agree with you that the atrocities taking place in Iraq are horrendous, I think the whole world is of the same opinion (generally) therefore YOU and I cannot lay claim to the moral high ground by also agreeing.

Unfortunately, the manner in which 'Democracy' has been foisted upon the people of Iraq (subsequent to the unlawful and murderous assault) is where the problems are rooted.

If the attack was JUSTIFIED, I would be standing in the same position as you have adopted, it is because of the fact that it was NOT, that we find ourselves in opposition.

That does NOT mean that I am in AGREEMENT with the atrocities, simply that I understand the reasons which triggered them.

I must say, it all seems perfectly obvious to me and has NOTHING to do with what took place PRIOR to the unlawful actions of the US/UK and others.

I think it is a great pity that we should be constantly at loggerheads miltiades, I think I am quite a nice chap actually and I am sure you are also.

Witness how the evil actions of those in power are able to manipulate the people and set them at each other's throats.

[FreeSpirit]

If the attack was JUSTIFIED, I would be standing in the same position as you have adopted, it is because of the fact that it was NOT, that we find ourselves in opposition.

This is a point that I will keep raising
You have constantly stated that no matter what an elected despot ie (Hitler Saddam Amin Pol Pot) of a country/state etc does is no business of anyone else, you leave the door open for a quick exit by putting "If the attack was justified".

How many million does it take for justification? you'r always quoting figures so surely in your superior mind you must have permanent campaigners league table.
Is it 200,000 for slap, on the wrist, 300,000 for sanctions, 500,000 for a trade embargo, does it have to go platinum before intervention?


Attempting to take the moral high ground is hardly any comfort to the Kurds, Marsh Arabs and hundreds of thousands of other innocent people that Saddam murdered every year.

And using mentaly disabled people to carry out barbaric deeds is disgusting yet you have constantly sanctioned this by playing anti coalition card.

[Eliko]

If the attack was JUSTIFIED, I would be standing in the same position as you have adopted, it is because of the fact that it was NOT, that we find ourselves in opposition.

This is a point that I will keep raising
You have constantly stated that no matter what an elected despot ie (Hitler Saddam Amin Pol Pot) of a country/state etc does is no business of anyone else, you leave the door open for a quick exit by putting "If the attack was justified".

How many million does it take for justification? you'r always quoting figures so surely in your superior mind you must have permanent campaigners league table.
Is it 200,000 for slap, on the wrist, 300,000 for sanctions, 500,000 for a trade embargo, does it have to go platinum before intervention?


Attempting to take the moral high ground is hardly any comfort to the Kurds, Marsh Arabs and hundreds of thousands of other innocent people that Saddam murdered every year.

And using mentaly disabled people to carry out barbaric deeds is disgusting yet you have constantly sanctioned this by playing anti coalition card.

For God's sake man, at least TRY to think about what you write, there is no point in your continual references to events which the entire world is aware of, your 'league table' is quite juvenile and it's contents meaningless in connection with what is under the spotlight here.

If you spent less time in spouting the horrors of the past (which once again I would like to point out is well known to ALL of us) you might discover the fact that we are concerned with what the current situation is in Iraq and HOW it evolved.

Even Saddam himself is now of no consequence since the man has been hanged and the answers to many questions with him.

If you are in agreement with the actions of the US/UK and others, if you are contented to live under the rule of leaders which lie to you in order to destroy others.

If you are content to absorb (sponge-like) all the information you receive from politically controlled newspapers, FINE, just keep one thing on your mind, there are others who prefer to THINK about what is taking place in the world, lest WE should be next on the list.

I think you may have seriously misinterpreted my comments about the leaders of other nations if you are implying that I am in agreement with harsh and unjust policies, perhaps you would benefit from a little THOUGHT on those issues also.

[FreeSpirit]

I think you may have seriously misinterpreted my comments about the leaders of other nations if you are implying that I am in agreement with harsh and unjust policies, perhaps you would benefit from a little THOUGHT on those issues also.

Have you never said words to the effect that "What goes on in a country with an elected government/leader is their business and nobody from outside that country has a right to interfere"?.

Regarding going over old ground, this thread is about barbaric savages striking again, not about why the coalition decided to Liberate Iraq.

This topic is about hilighting the lengths these barbaric savages (muslims killing muslims and using mentaly retarded people to do so) will go to with the likes of you always justifying it and laying the blame elsewhere.

[tessintrnc]

The latest clap-trap from Bush in his interview yesterday with the BBC:

See, I happen to believe we're in an ideological struggle. And, those who murder the innocent to achieve political objectives are evil people

Perhaps he should read what Ghandi said:

What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?

Freespirit said: How many million does it take for justification? you'r always quoting figures so surely in your superior mind you must have permanent campaigners league table.
Is it 200,000 for slap, on the wrist, 300,000 for sanctions, 500,000 for a trade embargo, does it have to go platinum before intervention?

May I suggest you ask Mr Liberator Bush why he refuses to send "help" to Dafur?? Or may I suggest it's because theres not a lot there to get rich on?

Tess

[FreeSpirit]

If you spent less time in spouting the horrors of the past (which once again I would like to point out is well known to ALL of us) you might discover the fact that we are concerned with what the current situation is in Iraq and HOW it evolved.

You keep refering to the horrors of the past with you constant references such as

the illegal invasion by the coalition

.

Talk about the kettle calling the saucepan black.

[FreeSpirit]

As a noun, ransom is consideration demanded for the release of someone or something held captive. As a verb, it is to pay consideration demanded for the release of someone or something held captive. Are you sure you don't mean "holding the world hostage? Nevertheless, I as much believe that Sadam was able to hold the world hostage over oil as I believe your use of the word "ransome" is syntactically correct (or spelled correctly for that matter).

Filitsa my Daughter has an honours degree in English; she teaches 'A' level English to students where English is a second language, I; on the other hand went to school where if you failed your 11+ you got an average education.
My daughter were she here would no doubt find much to correct in you responses.
When you have to resort to nittpicking it shows you are running low on ammunition.