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[BC Numismatics]

Shamaran,you malakas,go & have a look for yourself!

Aidan.

[purdey]

I have never understood this argument regarding the British.In colonial times we were the big cheese.Those days are long gone,the British today are a heddy mix of cultures,rather reserved and not arrogant at all.

[BC Numismatics]

Purdey,the British are in the unfortunate position of having the most racist country in Europe south of their territory - the Republic of Ireland.

Turkey is also a very racist country,but it is a Middle Eastern country like Iran though.

Aidan.

[BirKibrisli]

Birkibrisli,the Ottoman Turks were a terrible colonial power.The British were the best colonial power.I'm tired of telling you why.

Aidan.

Dear Aidan,
There cannot be a "best" colonial power...That is an oxymoron...

Pray tell us ,again...Why were the Ottomans terrible and the British best colonisers?????

Regards,
Bir....

[BirKibrisli]

Lets hear it one more time for those of us who don't know why BC, why are the British so great?


Oh and Birkibrisli, how are you planning to crush these historical claims, by the means of which source?

I have no plans to crush anything,Shah...It is up to others to do that ,if they so chose...I intend to be just the messenger!

[BC Numismatics]

Birkibrisli,go & find out for yourself!

Aidan.

[andreas123]

Question 1 is about the Ottoman conquer of Cyprus and the following administrative order...Here is the opening paragraph in full translation:

"The Ottoman Empire conquered Cyprus in 1571,at a cost of 80,000 martyrs,in order to stop the pirates based on Cyprus from attacking ships sailing through the Mediterranean,and to help the O[b]rthodox Greeks who were oppressed by the Catholic Venetians."[/b]




The ottoman rule lasted for 307 years in practice and 352 years legally...

During this time Cyprus experienced a liberty not seen in her long history.

The Turks liberated the Orthodox church and brought the freedom of religion to Greek Cypriots...By accepting the Archbishop as the political representative of his people,Ottoman rule gave Greek Cypriots the right to take their grievances directly to the Palace...




The Greek Cypriots responded by supporting the Greek uprising of 1821 by means of money,ammunition and soldiers,and by trying to massacre the entire Turkish Cypriot population in the same year...



During the Ottoman rule the economic situation of the Greek Cypriots improved immeasurably...This was the result of the great tolerance shown to them by the Ottomans...

The island's administrative system was redrawn,and brought under 17 districts run by "KADIs"...Greek Cypriots as well as Armenian and Maronite Cypriots were given representation rights on the Administrative Council... Hence for the first time in their history,Greek Cypriots had a say in the running of their island...Also by means of tax collection by the Church,and the liberties in the education system,Greek Cypriots enjoyed an early form of self-rule...

There you are,you ungrateful sods....Now you know how good you had it under the Ottomans....What say you...????????

Orthodox Greeks who were oppressed by the Catholic Venetians."[/b]

hahaha...christians opressing christians? really? what did the ottomans bring..? peace? or beheadings...if you dont become muslims/turks we will cut your heads off (hence the creation of Turkish Cypriot's )....



The ottoman rule lasted for 307 years in practice and 352 years legally...

During this time Cyprus experienced a liberty not seen in her long history.

The Turks liberated the Orthodox church and brought the freedom of religion to Greek Cypriots...By accepting the Archbishop as the political representative of his people,Ottoman rule gave Greek Cypriots the right to take their grievances directly to the Palace...

-----------rights were give i give you that....------------


The Greek Cypriots responded by supporting the Greek uprising of 1821 by means of money,ammunition and soldiers,and[size=18] by trying to massacre the entire Turkish Cypriot population in the same year...

if greek cypriots were so happy under the ottoman rule why did they revolt then???

[miltiades]

Question 1 is about the Ottoman conquer of Cyprus and the following administrative order...Here is the opening paragraph in full translation:

"The Ottoman Empire conquered Cyprus in 1571,at a cost of 80,000 martyrs,in order to stop the pirates based on Cyprus from attacking ships sailing through the Mediterranean,and to help the Orthodox Greeks who were oppressed by the Catholic Venetians."

The ottoman rule lasted for 307 years in practice and 352 years legally...

During this time Cyprus experienced a liberty not seen in her long history.

The Turks liberated the Orthodox church and brought the freedom of religion to Greek Cypriots...By accepting the Archbishop as the political representative of his people,Ottoman rule gave Greek Cypriots the right to take their grievances directly to the Palace...

The Greek Cypriots responded by supporting the Greek uprising of 1821 by means of money,ammunition and soldiers,and by trying to massacre the entire Turkish Cypriot population in the same year...

During the Ottoman rule the economic situation of the Greek Cypriots improved immeasurably...This was the result of the great tolerance shown to them by the Ottomans...

The island's administrative system was redrawn,and brought under 17 districts run by "KADIs"...Greek Cypriots as well as Armenian and Maronite Cypriots were given representation rights on the Administrative Council... Hence for the first time in their history,Greek Cypriots had a say in the running of their island...Also by means of tax collection by the Church,and the liberties in the education system,Greek Cypriots enjoyed an early form of self-rule...

There you are,you ungrateful sods....Now you know how good you had it under the Ottomans....What say you...????????

Well Bir , Im certain that such "historical facts" are included in the other "historical facts " challenge them at article 301 PERIL !!

[shahmaran]

Lets hear it one more time for those of us who don't know why BC, why are the British so great?


Oh and Birkibrisli, how are you planning to crush these historical claims, by the means of which source?

I have no plans to crush anything,Shah...It is up to others to do that ,if they so chose...I intend to be just the messenger!

Well that's fine Bir, but i would seriously like to see people challenge them with credible sources, so we can shed some light on the matter for real, if that is possible at all.

And when i say credible sources, i don't mean "Piratis style" sources nor some other equally dubious propaganda material.

...and no grandpa tales either!

So come on peeps...

[Tim Drayton]

Birkibrisli,the Ottoman Turks were a terrible colonial power.The British were the best colonial power.I'm tired of telling you why.

Aidan.

I do not accept that there is such a thing as a "good colonial power". I support the principle of self-determination for all peoples.