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Postby andri_cy » Sat May 06, 2006 7:44 pm

mrfromng they are definately being rude and bad but to stoop to their level doesnt change anything. They call you names but by replying to them and telling us you have f***** us for hundreds of years you are just giving leverage to their arguments and showing a side of yourself who isnt very pleasant. Have a nice break off the forum.
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Postby miltiades » Sat May 06, 2006 7:59 pm

mrfromng , hope your hospital stay was not a serious matter. The two individuals you mentioned are not representative of GC opinion , their ideas full of hatred are utterly worthless yet if they succeed in affecting your judgement , mine , or anyone else's then their worthless ideas become highly influential. Are you going to have your behaviour dictated and influenced by their irrational arguments , quite crude and childish in many ways.
I think you should consider an apology to the forum and a complete withdrawal of your earlier remarks covering the usage of unsuitable language, which is so utterly out of character.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sat May 06, 2006 9:52 pm

Maybe the moderators should issue warnings to people who use inappropriate language and the person who receives x number of warnings to be banned automatically with no further notice.
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 06, 2006 10:37 pm

You see? You see what happens? Go back and read some of mrfromng's previous posts, Admin. You will see that he is an honourable man who is slow to anger. He has argued clearly and considerately, but he has been sent away by the combined hatred of GCG and malaka.


So kalahari, GCs that are provoked by the actions and illegalities that Turkey and TCs insist upon are expected to stay calm about it, while mrfromng is excused for his bad manners because some GCG or MLK said something?

Why don't you show the same kind of understanding for the Greek Cypriots that were ethnically cleansed and they are still illegally forced to stay out of their homes?

I do not take the side of GCG or Malaka. I said to them directly that they are racists and their actions do not help Cyprus. However I put in the same category mrfromng, who has also shown on several occasions his racism and hate against GCs.

If we want only moderates here, then we should exclude anybody that supports anything else than democracy and human rights, or who demands descrimination of Cypriots based on their race. Is this what you want? Or maybe you want the racists that you don't like to go, and the racists that you like to stay?
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Postby Piratis » Sat May 06, 2006 10:38 pm

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Postby andri_cy » Sat May 06, 2006 10:47 pm

I agree with Piratis totally on this one. One cannot be excused for foul language even if his posts were moderate in the past just because he"was provoked" > People need to grow up and take responsibility. No one Made mrfromng cuss us all out. He is a grown man and he is responsible for his own actions. He could have ignored their language, put his argument in a more polite way but he chose to stoop to the level he accuses others of being at. HE is reposnible for that not GCG and MLK. After all they DO have the right to express their opinions even though the language might be bad. But calling one dog isnt as bad as someone getting on here and telling me and all my compatriots that he has fucked us for hundreds of years and blah blah blah. Maybe thats the kind of behavior that makes GC's think the way they do of Turks. And maybe mrfromng finally showed us who he really is. I want peace in my country and all that crap and if it means negotiations for me so be it. But I will be damned if I will make excuses for the person who is proud to have F***** us for hundreds of years. Where is the damn shame? Dont only see one side, try be fair to all sides.
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Postby miltiades » Sat May 06, 2006 11:32 pm

Andry_cy , I also agree with you that foul inflammatory remarks are not conducive to our cause , our compatriot mrfromng has made a real effort to state his love of Cyprus is based on the fact that he , and he said 99.9% of Cypriot Turks are first and foremost Cypriots and then OF TURKISH ORIGIN, A view that I share since I also believe that Im a Cypriot first and foremost. He has endured endless insults from certain quarters and , beeing a Cypriot reacted with anger and made the ghastly comments that Im certain beyond a shadow of a doubt , he will retract in due course. Our forum hopefully can benefit if momentary outbursts can be recognised and withdrawn
without loss of face .
We all love our Cyprus , let us build that bridge , let us all say we too made errors but have learned from our mistakes , we have nothing but tears and misery to gain by adopting the language of hatred and division.
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Postby kalahari » Sun May 07, 2006 1:01 am

Why don't you show the same kind of understanding for the Greek Cypriots that were ethnically cleansed and they are still illegally forced to stay out of their homes?


Hi Andri

I do show the same level of understanding – or at least I try to. I refer you to previous posts of mine, where I genuinely believed that Malaka was at last trying to make some sense. And I don't really want to get into the ethnic cleansing bit, because I'm still largely ignorant of what went on, despite my best attempts to find an unbiased history of what happened back then. I am trying to educate myself, honest. Maybe somebody should report real stories and experiences rather than just rant the same thing alll the time!

Depending upon what you read however, it appears to me that the Greek Cypriots were not entirely blameless in the buuild up to the invasion, and could even be argued to have provided Turkey with a reason for invading in the first place. Now let me make it quite clear that I am new to this and have not yet found a reliable history – I am not expressing a personal opinion on what took place, only on what appears to have taken place from what i have so far managed to glean.

If anybody would like to give me a better idea of what happened, please do. Just lay off the name calling, eh? I'm a delicate little flower at heart.
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Postby michalis5354 » Sun May 07, 2006 1:09 am

The problem with Malaka and the GC girl went to the opposite extremes without acknowledging any attrocities commited by the GCs towards the TCs. Mr Froming did not take such an extreme approach.

Many times GC girl has used inapropriate words like sh*t , Criminals, animals ! If I was a moderator on this site I should have issued warnings to her and then take a more serious action.
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Postby malaka » Sun May 07, 2006 2:28 am

mrfromng wrote:I have seen enough. It is obvious the likes of Malakas, GCG etc are very much the voice of the majority of GC's. People like miltiadis are a rare breed and are indeed the minority. I will not be visiting the forum for a while, I see no point in discussing anything with people who think of us as DOGS. Before I go just a few words for Malaka, GCG and and other Greeks who agree with them.

These dogs, as you choose to call us have fucked you for hundreds of years and will continue to do so. You say you would spit on any Turk, well I would piss on you two. Malaka, you say you have land in Varosha and that you would be a very wealthy man if you had access to it. I hope we never find a solution the Cyprus problem and you never get an inch of your land back.

YOU BOTH ARE PIECE OF IGNORANT SHITS.


Typical TOURKOO
Call a tief a thief and they dont like.
The only reason you have fucked us over is because you choose to fight battles that you cant lose.
I have never stated I would spit on all Turks
Piss on me maybe we should meat you DOG just you and me not 1000 of your mates then we will see who fucks who.

Hope you never return to this forum.


ADMIN TAKE THIS AS YOU WISH IF THIS IS NOT A PERSONAL ATTACK ON ME WHAT IS.
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