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[Viewpoint]

You have obviously made your choice on the side of the GCs, that is natural as you think just like them (still believe you are one) but you have to understand that given the option of living in a GC state without and safety measures (which the GCs oppose) or continuing as we are you will find that the majority of TCs will choose as we are. I would even be prepared to vote on it an accept the outcome that's how confident I am that you are totally wrong.

[Kikapu]

You have obviously made your choice on the side of the GCs, that is natural as you think just like them (still believe you are one) but you have to understand that given the option of living in a GC state without and safety measures (which the GCs oppose) or continuing as we are you will find that the majority of TCs will choose as we are. I would even be prepared to vote on it an accept the outcome that's how confident I am that you are totally wrong.

What exactly is your argument this time VP, because I've failed to see it.!!

If True Democracy, True Federation and a member of the EU is not enough of a safeguards for us VP, then we can always ask for special protection as minorities. Do you want to be a minority with special safeguards.??? I did not think so, because that's the definition of safeguards in an open society, which special preferential treatments are given to, because being a equal citizen is not enough for them, which they are looked down upon as "beggars". No VP, I want to earn what's coming to me and not be treated like a special charity case. We TC's deserve more than that, then be given special preferential treatment and lose our dignity in the process..

[Viewpoint]

You have obviously made your choice on the side of the GCs, that is natural as you think just like them (still believe you are one) but you have to understand that given the option of living in a GC state without and safety measures (which the GCs oppose) or continuing as we are you will find that the majority of TCs will choose as we are. I would even be prepared to vote on it an accept the outcome that's how confident I am that you are totally wrong.

What exactly is your argument this time VP, because I've failed to see it.!!

If True Democracy, True Federation and a member of the EU is not enough of a safeguards for us VP, then we can always ask for special protection as minorities. Do you want to be a minority with special safeguards.??? I did not think so, because that's the definition of safeguards in an open society, which special preferential treatments are given to, because being a equal citizen is not enough for them, which they are looked down upon as "beggars". No VP, I want to earn what's coming to me and not be treated like a special charity case. We TC's deserve more than that, then be given special preferential treatment and lose our dignity in the process..

Kikapu for whatever reason you have more confidence in the GCs than I do so it is natural to believe that they will treat a sizable TC community with EU "safeguards". Let me ask you a question the balance being 80% in favor of the GC community would most definitely result in a GC government, who would have the power to stop all trade with Turkey. What safeguards do you propose to stop this one example? How can we say no? Kindly try to stick to the question.

[zan]

Well which one is it then Kikapu?

Why don't you just answer the man, i have not seen you once, not ONCE say anything remotely positive about us or our cause, other then a few reminiscence's of your childhood, it really begs the question of who you really are, you cant blame people for doubting since you simply come across to be a GC who is only claiming to be a TC.

And i am trying to be as objective as possible here, after all i do not know you nor i have any issues with you and more importantly i have no reason to insult you in any kind of way.

Hi Shah,

Answer what exactly Shah.?? Just because Zan and others lose an argument and are unable to accept some truth, they want to lash out by trying to discredit others argument by attaching labels to them. Zan argument is self defeating from the start. In order for me to "convert" to be a GC, then I must be/had been a TC first. Now do you see how Zan loses his own argument even before I need to answer him in a serious way. By pointing out reality Shah, that does not make me a GC. If it did, then the end conclusion can only be, that no TC's are able to see reality or worse, speak the truth., so I would be very careful on how you reach your conclusions about me.

Now you are asking me the same question that VP has been asking me for the last year or so, regarding the " not ONCE say anything remotely positive about us or our cause", and my answer to him finally was, if it means violation of other Cypriots Human Rights, then NO, I cannot think of one, but if I do not take into account of other Cypriots Human Rights violations, then I can say a lot of "positives". Given the above two choices, even VP could not answer his own question, so perhaps you would like to have a go and see how you would do Shah.

I'm an independent thinking TC who does not like to see what the leaders of his community are doing to the True TC's. If you are happy Shah, since most TC's are not speaking up as to what is happening to our unique TC culture and language by being flooded with the Turkish settlers to turn the North into "little Turkey", then remain quiet. You actually have more to lose than me, since you live in Cyprus. If I wanted to spend time in a real True Turkish culture, I would visit Turkey, as I have done so on many occasions. Having said all that Shah, I also understand your own personal situation, having been born into that system of the "TRNC". That's all you know. That's all you have seen, and that's all you have been told growing up. You are an "innocent bystander" Shah. You have done nothing wrong, just like T_C. You want to support your elders, because that is what is expected of you, so I do not blame you for questioning as to who I am. You already know who I am Shah. I am you.!

Answer the question and stop farting around.....


Have you converted back to being a Greek because you found out that that is what your family are.....It is not rocket science... Yes you were a TC and now you are a GC...Did you convert??????Don't be ashamed...That is not your shame but pretending to be a TC when you are not is.....

[Kikapu]

Answer the question and stop farting around.....


Have you converted back to being a Greek because you found out that that is what your family are.....It is not rocket science... Yes you were a TC and now you are a GC...Did you convert??????Don't be ashamed...That is not your shame but pretending to be a TC when you are not is.....

When all else fails, always refer back to this Zan, so that you can find your way out of your own mess by talking to your imaginary friend "Roger the Rabbit"

So tell me Zan, what is it like to be talking with yourself. First you pose the question, then you answer your own question to yourself.

Who is your imaginary talking partner Zan, "Roger the Rabbit".

I know you are bored to death Zan, so let me liven your boring life for you a little.

Who am I.??

Perhaps I'm that 5 year old GC boy who was shot in the leg in '74 then was sent to Turkey for treatment, but was never returned back to his family, but instead Denktash told his parents that he was dead, so he was forced to grow up in Turkey, be circumcised, lose his Greek language, culture, heritage, family and was forced to learn Turkish, and even made to marry a Turkish girl, to raise his own kids with Greek Blood in them, but they will never know the truth.

Is this enough for you Zan, or shall I continue.??

[zan]

Answer the question and stop farting around.....


Have you converted back to being a Greek because you found out that that is what your family are.....It is not rocket science... Yes you were a TC and now you are a GC...Did you convert??????Don't be ashamed...That is not your shame but pretending to be a TC when you are not is.....

When all else fails, always refer back to this Zan, so that you can find your way out of your own mess by talking to your imaginary friend "Roger the Rabbit"

So tell me Zan, what is it like to be talking with yourself. First you pose the question, then you answer your own question to yourself.

Who is your imaginary talking partner Zan, "Roger the Rabbit".

I know you are bored to death Zan, so let me liven your boring life for you a little.

Who am I.??

Perhaps I'm that 5 year old GC boy who was shot in the leg in '74 then was sent to Turkey for treatment, but was never returned back to his family, but instead Denktash told his parents that he was dead, so he was forced to grow up in Turkey, be circumcised, lose his Greek language, culture, heritage, family and was forced to learn Turkish, and even made to marry a Turkish girl, to raise his own kids with Greek Blood in them, but they will never know the truth.

Is this enough for you Zan, or shall I continue.??

ANSWER THE QUESTION

[Kikapu]

Answer the question and stop farting around.....


Have you converted back to being a Greek because you found out that that is what your family are.....It is not rocket science... Yes you were a TC and now you are a GC...Did you convert??????Don't be ashamed...That is not your shame but pretending to be a TC when you are not is.....

When all else fails, always refer back to this Zan, so that you can find your way out of your own mess by talking to your imaginary friend "Roger the Rabbit"

So tell me Zan, what is it like to be talking with yourself. First you pose the question, then you answer your own question to yourself.

Who is your imaginary talking partner Zan, "Roger the Rabbit".

I know you are bored to death Zan, so let me liven your boring life for you a little.

Who am I.??

Perhaps I'm that 5 year old GC boy who was shot in the leg in '74 then was sent to Turkey for treatment, but was never returned back to his family, but instead Denktash told his parents that he was dead, so he was forced to grow up in Turkey, be circumcised, lose his Greek language, culture, heritage, family and was forced to learn Turkish, and even made to marry a Turkish girl, to raise his own kids with Greek Blood in them, but they will never know the truth.

Is this enough for you Zan, or shall I continue.??

ANSWER THE QUESTION

Just out of interest Zan, how does one convert to another Nationality. ??

I know one can convert from one religion to another, but how the hell do you convert your nationality, unless you are stolen at a young age, just like that 5 year old GC boy was. I mean, what happens to your circumcised penis.??

Questions questions.

[zan]

Answer the question and stop farting around.....


Have you converted back to being a Greek because you found out that that is what your family are.....It is not rocket science... Yes you were a TC and now you are a GC...Did you convert??????Don't be ashamed...That is not your shame but pretending to be a TC when you are not is.....

When all else fails, always refer back to this Zan, so that you can find your way out of your own mess by talking to your imaginary friend "Roger the Rabbit"

So tell me Zan, what is it like to be talking with yourself. First you pose the question, then you answer your own question to yourself.

Who is your imaginary talking partner Zan, "Roger the Rabbit".

I know you are bored to death Zan, so let me liven your boring life for you a little.

Who am I.??

Perhaps I'm that 5 year old GC boy who was shot in the leg in '74 then was sent to Turkey for treatment, but was never returned back to his family, but instead Denktash told his parents that he was dead, so he was forced to grow up in Turkey, be circumcised, lose his Greek language, culture, heritage, family and was forced to learn Turkish, and even made to marry a Turkish girl, to raise his own kids with Greek Blood in them, but they will never know the truth.

Is this enough for you Zan, or shall I continue.??

ANSWER THE QUESTION

Just out of interest Zan, how does one convert to another Nationality. ??

I know one can convert from one religion to another, but how the hell do you convert your nationality, unless you are stolen at a young age, just like that 5 year old GC boy was. I mean, what happens to your circumcised penis.??

Questions questions.

How many nails is that in your coffin Kikapolous....ANSWER THE QUESTION

[Kikapu]

Answer the question and stop farting around.....


Have you converted back to being a Greek because you found out that that is what your family are.....It is not rocket science... Yes you were a TC and now you are a GC...Did you convert??????Don't be ashamed...That is not your shame but pretending to be a TC when you are not is.....

When all else fails, always refer back to this Zan, so that you can find your way out of your own mess by talking to your imaginary friend "Roger the Rabbit"

So tell me Zan, what is it like to be talking with yourself. First you pose the question, then you answer your own question to yourself.

Who is your imaginary talking partner Zan, "Roger the Rabbit".

I know you are bored to death Zan, so let me liven your boring life for you a little.

Who am I.??

Perhaps I'm that 5 year old GC boy who was shot in the leg in '74 then was sent to Turkey for treatment, but was never returned back to his family, but instead Denktash told his parents that he was dead, so he was forced to grow up in Turkey, be circumcised, lose his Greek language, culture, heritage, family and was forced to learn Turkish, and even made to marry a Turkish girl, to raise his own kids with Greek Blood in them, but they will never know the truth.

Is this enough for you Zan, or shall I continue.??

ANSWER THE QUESTION

Just out of interest Zan, how does one convert to another Nationality. ??

I know one can convert from one religion to another, but how the hell do you convert your nationality, unless you are stolen at a young age, just like that 5 year old GC boy was. I mean, what happens to your circumcised penis.??

Questions questions.

How many nails is that in your coffin Kikapolous....ANSWER THE QUESTION

Zan the Pinocchio

Whats the matter Zan, cat got your tongue.

How does one convert their nationality.??

[zan]

Answer the question and stop farting around.....


Have you converted back to being a Greek because you found out that that is what your family are.....It is not rocket science... Yes you were a TC and now you are a GC...Did you convert??????Don't be ashamed...That is not your shame but pretending to be a TC when you are not is.....

When all else fails, always refer back to this Zan, so that you can find your way out of your own mess by talking to your imaginary friend "Roger the Rabbit"

So tell me Zan, what is it like to be talking with yourself. First you pose the question, then you answer your own question to yourself.

Who is your imaginary talking partner Zan, "Roger the Rabbit".

I know you are bored to death Zan, so let me liven your boring life for you a little.

Who am I.??

Perhaps I'm that 5 year old GC boy who was shot in the leg in '74 then was sent to Turkey for treatment, but was never returned back to his family, but instead Denktash told his parents that he was dead, so he was forced to grow up in Turkey, be circumcised, lose his Greek language, culture, heritage, family and was forced to learn Turkish, and even made to marry a Turkish girl, to raise his own kids with Greek Blood in them, but they will never know the truth.

Is this enough for you Zan, or shall I continue.??

ANSWER THE QUESTION

Just out of interest Zan, how does one convert to another Nationality. ??

I know one can convert from one religion to another, but how the hell do you convert your nationality, unless you are stolen at a young age, just like that 5 year old GC boy was. I mean, what happens to your circumcised penis.??

Questions questions.

How many nails is that in your coffin Kikapolous....ANSWER THE QUESTION

Zan the Pinocchio

Whats the matter Zan, cat got your tongue.

How does one convert their nationality.??

He goes to the "RoC" and gets membership for a murderous regime and then declares himself GC........Is that what the birth certificate thing was about Kikapolous....Did you want to check your ancestral name so that the "RoC" would accept you........Are you planning to get married in a Greek orthodox Church......When is your communion?????