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[Sotos]

Who are to blame for the problems in Cyprus are the invadors. Turks and British. If Cyprus had no invadors there would be no problems. Think about it. Would there be a Cyprus Problem if the Turks and the British never invaded Cyprus?? NO.

[eracles]

The TCs were an active accessory of first the Turks wishing to secure a piece of 'their' land back - and then even the British used them to turn on the GCs doing the Brits dirty work - TCs were quite happy to do all this - or their very own nationalist muppets would cause them trouble - plus they thought there was something better in it for them than the majority population finally getting self determination after 10,000 years.
I do concur with your view on the Greeks though.

[zan]

Well, the TCs just sat around in shock, watching events unfold, as they saw their families and friends get blown out of their homes with grenades and shot on their way out.

The Turks on the mainland sat around biding their time, issuing warning after warning until the time was right.

And the Greeks talked the talk, but when it came down to it, in typical Greek fashion, they either couldn't or wouldn't walk the walk. Bravado bullshitting big mouth Johnny Big Bollocks all mouth and no trousers pricks that they were. Led by a right royal runty bunch of wankers.

So all in all, my post stands correct - the 2 key factors were ignorance and nationalism.

I agree..The 2 key factors were ignorance and nationalism and Greeks .......are 3 key factors.....

The 3 key factors are ignorance, nationalism and Greeks.....and the Megali idea...Are 4 key factors

[Pumpy]

Who are to blame for the problems in Cyprus are the invadors. Turks and British. If Cyprus had no invadors there would be no problems. Think about it. Would there be a Cyprus Problem if the Turks and the British never invaded Cyprus?? NO.

Er, the British didn't invade 'Sotos'.

There was no British invasion. Cyprus was annexed by Britain on account of Turkey backing the wrong side in WW1.

If you want to use the word invasion, think about this: what are the odds of a country as strategically positioned as Cyprus going through centuries of blissful sun kissed existence and NOT getting invaded? It's just not how the history of the world has panned out is it? And if it did happen, whereby Cyprus was never taken over, it would be nothing short of a 'water-into-win' esque miracle.

Be thankful the British had you from 1914 till independence. Otherwise you'd still be under the iron rod of the heirs to Ataturk, and the flags flying above Cyprus's buildings would have a distinctly non-blue tinge to them.

[zan]

The TCs were an active accessory of first the Turks wishing to secure a piece of 'their' land back - and then even the British used them to turn on the GCs doing the Brits dirty work - TCs were quite happy to do all this - or their very own nationalist muppets would cause them trouble - plus they thought there was something better in it for them than the majority population finally getting self determination after 10,000 years.
I do concur with your view on the Greeks though.

When we were being attacked and killed by EOKA terrorists and the brits came along and offered us protection, it would have been silly and rude to have said no now wouldn't it...

[Piratis]

Who are to blame for the problems in Cyprus are the invadors. Turks and British. If Cyprus had no invadors there would be no problems. Think about it. Would there be a Cyprus Problem if the Turks and the British never invaded Cyprus?? NO.

Spot on.

Cypriots have suffered and continue to suffer because foreigners come to our island to forcefully impose their will on us and stop Cypriots from having their freedom and self-determination. This is the root and the main problem of Cyprus.

Cypriots have never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. We simply revolted against the foreign oppressors, who shouldn't have been on this island in the first place, demanding our freedom and self-determination.

[humanist]

Divide and Conquer is the british way Umit ...... take note of that. Besides your recognition wil certainly come from none other than the British

[utu]

So in summation, all that we have to do now is to remove every last vestige of nationalism from the island and tell every non-Cypriot to get the hell out of the island and let it govern itself....

[Nikitas]

Nice theory Pumpy, now can you explain why the first intercommunal attacks were TC against GC in 1957 and not the other way around? So they did not sit and simply react. Have you never heard of the KIP plan to "Regain Cyprus" for which they sent high ranking officers from Turkey to control the TCs in the mid fifites?

If you are going to bash us with theory at least get some basics clear.

[zan]

Who are to blame for the problems in Cyprus are the invadors. Turks and British. If Cyprus had no invadors there would be no problems. Think about it. Would there be a Cyprus Problem if the Turks and the British never invaded Cyprus?? NO.

Spot on.

Cypriots have suffered and continue to suffer because foreigners come to our island to forcefully impose their will on us and stop Cypriots from having their freedom and self-determination. This is the root and the main problem of Cyprus.

Cypriots have never ventured out of their island to harm anybody. We simply revolted against the foreign oppressors, who shouldn't have been on this island in the first place, demanding our freedom and self-determination.

You got your independence with the first ever republic but you then started killing the only people you should have trusted in order to give hat independence away to Greece....Make up your minds.......You still claim that you have the right to give that independence away again....If your brave terrorists EOKA killers where alive to see you know...Wait they are...They are running your government....