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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:01 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
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MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:I bet MR is pissing himself now..................................................(laughing that is) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where have you disappeared to? :lol:

Honestly people this thread has turned into a schoolyard... it's amazing what people say to each other when they don't see each other! :lol:


Turned into a madhouse without you GR :lol: :lol:

Yeah right... as if it was sane before! :lol:

When's your next trip here again? We'll get Phoenix to come along and I'll just laugh my head off watching the two of you go all red! :lol:


Am I invited GR or is it VIP's only? :cry: :cry:

Well yeah, we're all very ignorant people but you can come along too if in Cyprus... will you? :)
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Postby shahmaran » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:03 pm

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shahmaran wrote:.... plus i hate people like yourself and Piratis and his likes who lurk around this forum simply to spread racist hate and bigoted propaganda, therefore i do not need to prove your racism, you do it plenty with your remarks, which i simply reply to and you can clearly see that i am not alone in thinking such way.


I have never known you to be passive. If anyone lurks around the forum ... you do it plenty too, and many others, otherwise we would have blank screens.

shah wrote:IF you actually read my posts properly (unlike yours) they are generally directed at YOU as in person and not YOU as in a nation, and again (unlike you) i do find it highly illogical and idiotic to simply hate an entire nation of people who you do not know anything about, this is the root of racism and you as a scientist, are so deeply muddled up in it that you don't even see it yourself.


So you think hating individuals (as you admit to) justifies the hatred ... but hating a Nation that violates your country's Human Rights and sends troops to kill you, is somehow not normal?

Do you also realise Hitler justified killing Jews, because he was blighted by one Jew ...

shah wrote:Wake up madam, you are the epitome of racism!


Again by refusing to see your inherent problem, you fester it unguarded ... very dangerous.

Take the log out of your own eye before removing the splinter out of someone else's ....

shah wrote:So please don't go talking crap about my parents and my upbringing which you have no clue about, unlike many GC's i have met in my lifetime, we have no place for hate in our homes, not for the Greeks nor for anyone else, believe it or not, I don't give a rats ass about you or your existence on the other side of our island. If we get along great, if not, who cares, I still get on with life.


No one has a place for hate ... as I said, mine was developed from personal experience through the direct actions of the Turks .... you clearly have no personal experience of violence from GCs .... so why should you hate them?

shah wrote:We have won our peace of mind long time ago, why shall we keep grudges about something that happened so long ago, my grandmother might, very rightfully, and so can my parents, but i don't need to nor will my children and i feel very lucky about it.


If you can have peace of mind whilst violating the Human Rights of 200,000 GCs, then you are extremely thick skinned and have been brought up well. :roll:

shah wrote:You have been clearly damaged as a child and i feel sorry for you because you seem to be a lost cause, and i hope this does not reflect on the upbringing of your children too, if not for our sake then at least for the sake of the poor Scotsmen :lol: :lol: :lol:


I very much believe in allowing people to develop their own characters ... I have no wish to impose my views on anyone. However, we are in an environment now, with many people who are a walking testament of the abuses inflicted by Turkey.

He has seen for himself, Europe's last remaining divided Capital City.

And eventually, it will seep through, that there are Turks like yourself, in the guise of normal rational beings, who are happy to comply with Turkey because you believe it is justifiable to not hate a Nation ... because you only hate individuals.


What a load of shit, this is a forum, we all come here to express opinions about the matters at hand or about each others views, we seem to be in a constant state of conflict with you simply because you hate me for being Turkish and i hate you for being racist. I don't hate you for what the GC did to us but only for your personal views.

Can you not see the difference here?

If you hate an entire nation for its politics or its history that makes you nothing but a racist, you don't just oppose our, or Turkeys government, you insist on making comments about our genetic traits, history and ways of life etc. constantly referring to the Turks while doing it, well guess what? There are many other countries around Turkey who are also Turkic, do you hate them too?

The reality is, I did not drop bombs on you, nor i violate any one's human rights, i simply live here as the rest of the Cypriots do, i do not live on any one's land or property, just like many other TC's.

Yet you with your racist and sweeping mentality seem to be quite happy to treat me as your enemy simply because i am a Turkish Cypriot. Can you not see the lack of logic in your views? And you call yourself a scientist? I cant believe i find myself explaining this to someone older then me who's profession actually relies on logic and rationality, yet she cant seem to distinguish them from her feelings :?

Plus what is most irritating is that you don't even seem to live here, you are nothing but a bloody tourist who sits behind a keyboard whinging about irrational crap because evil old Turkey scared you as a child, well everyone was scared so grow the fuck up, you are a mother for fucks sake, this does not justify any of your views! Most people in my family who even took part in the combat, fell prisoner and lost other relatives, doesn't hate the GCs! What the hell is your excuse?
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:10 pm

Get Real! wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:I bet MR is pissing himself now..................................................(laughing that is) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where have you disappeared to? :lol:

Honestly people this thread has turned into a schoolyard... it's amazing what people say to each other when they don't see each other! :lol:


Turned into a madhouse without you GR :lol: :lol:

Yeah right... as if it was sane before! :lol:

When's your next trip here again? We'll get Phoenix to come along and I'll just laugh my head off watching the two of you go all red! :lol:


Am I invited GR or is it VIP's only? :cry: :cry:

Well yeah, we're all very ignorant people but you can come along too if in Cyprus... will you? :)



Phoenix will have to wait till summer before she has the pleasure of meeting me. Lets wait and see. Glad your home is finished at last. What will you do with the Turkish/Kurdish workers now? Give them RoC Passports?

Take care and regards to..................................everybody. :lol:
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Postby paliometoxo » Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:43 pm

why dont the turks in the north use the flag that the turkish guy made and that we in the south use?? TRNC flag is basically a second turkey flag seems a bit stupid its a bit like saying cyprus north is turkish not cypriot at all instead of using one cyprus nstead the police in the north dont even let u hang the cy flag up that was designed b a turk! so stupid
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:42 pm

paliometoxo wrote:why dont the turks in the north use the flag that the turkish guy made and that we in the south use?? TRNC flag is basically a second turkey flag seems a bit stupid its a bit like saying cyprus north is turkish not cypriot at all instead of using one cyprus nstead the police in the north dont even let u hang the cy flag up that was designed b a turk! so stupid


Yogurt is a Turkish word and you stuck Greek in front of it just like the flag... :wink: :lol:
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:44 pm

iceman wrote:
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Nikitas wrote:Shahamaran talks about hatred and abuses of human rights and adds:

"we all know what happened here," well here is a small example of what happened here, read it and then we talk about hatred- it is from Sener Levent who quotes Sevgul Oludag:

"The soldiers wanted to rape an 18 year old GC girl in the village of Tavros in Karpasia. She resisted, so they killed her and raped her headless body."

Is this incident posted in that museum you keep in the TRuNC? This incident, like many others in Karpasia happened after the Turkish army quashed all resistance. There was no military engagement in Karpasia. This is how they behaved towards people they had at their complete mercy. And you dare talk about genocide and abuse of rights. You regard these people as heroes. Fuck off will ya!


I see, so if you want to hurl abuses at me you don't need to make shit up that i have not even talked about Nikitas, you can just go a head and show your true face mate, it really means fuck all to me anyways.

Show me where i have stated that "they are my heroes" ?

Was there any military engagement in the 3 villages that had been totally dumped into massgraves? I very much doubt it my friend, unless women and children also took up warfare.

So dont give me this crap about the TRNC flag being the symbol for human rights abuses and all that because the "RoC" means nothing less to the people in the North, the fact that the South is "legal" changes nothing about the things that has been done to the innocent on this island.

The little "rape" article is nothing new to the TC's either, i think we all know that historically, the Greeks also love to rape and burn down villages at will when given the chance, so what is your point Nikitas?

Because I dont actually think that you have got one this time, so please you fuck off and come back when you do.



you always talk bout people killed TC'S etc etc....if we killed so many...then how comes for every Turkish cypriot discovered today there 10 Greek Cypriot's discovered?...how many Turkish Cypriots have gone missing,,and how many Greek Cypriots? i know it doesnt matter people died.end of day .it doesnt matter if they were TC'S or GC'S end of day they are people..but looking at the numbers,..erm,,, who was killing who?? serisously?


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First of all let me say i agree with you that at the end of the day it does not matter what ethic group they belonged the people who went missing were human beings and Cypriots...
The fact is tho...most of the discovered GC's went missing in 1974...discovered TC's mainly went missing before 1974..



What was that bloke Makarios shouting about in 74 as well...something about the coupists killing thousands of GCs...Bloody idiot...
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Postby zan » Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:47 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
phoenix wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:I bet MR is pissing himself now..................................................(laughing that is) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where have you disappeared to? :lol:

Honestly people this thread has turned into a schoolyard... it's amazing what people say to each other when they don't see each other! :lol:


Turned into a madhouse without you GR :lol: :lol:

Yeah right... as if it was sane before! :lol:

When's your next trip here again? We'll get Phoenix to come along and I'll just laugh my head off watching the two of you go all red! :lol:


Hopefully in the next 3-4 weeks. Enjoy your new home GR. You're right, its embarrassing to get into such childish exchanges with Phoenix, She is after all a lady and I should know better.

Damn computers, damn internet, damn forums. :twisted: :lol:

I hope you can spare 2-3 hours so we can all have another reunion.


It was a pleasure last time and am sure it will be just as good this time. Will let you know the dates I'll be there.

Take care mate and once again enjoy your new house.


I'm game if you organise it for a Tuesday or a Thursday .... :D


Tuesday or Thursday it will be, cant wait. :wink: :wink:


Make sure you sit with your backs to the wall and so that you can see the door guys, just in case a woman with a mustache and a kilt turns up.....Just as I have always imagined her.... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:29 pm

zan wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
phoenix wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:I bet MR is pissing himself now..................................................(laughing that is) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where have you disappeared to? :lol:

Honestly people this thread has turned into a schoolyard... it's amazing what people say to each other when they don't see each other! :lol:


Turned into a madhouse without you GR :lol: :lol:

Yeah right... as if it was sane before! :lol:

When's your next trip here again? We'll get Phoenix to come along and I'll just laugh my head off watching the two of you go all red! :lol:


Hopefully in the next 3-4 weeks. Enjoy your new home GR. You're right, its embarrassing to get into such childish exchanges with Phoenix, She is after all a lady and I should know better.

Damn computers, damn internet, damn forums. :twisted: :lol:

I hope you can spare 2-3 hours so we can all have another reunion.


It was a pleasure last time and am sure it will be just as good this time. Will let you know the dates I'll be there.

Take care mate and once again enjoy your new house.


I'm game if you organise it for a Tuesday or a Thursday .... :D


Tuesday or Thursday it will be, cant wait. :wink: :wink:


Make sure you sit with your backs to the wall and so that you can see the door guys, just in case a woman with a mustache and a kilt turns up.....Just as I have always imagined her.... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:



What a weird imagination you have Zan. I have have been informed that Phoenix is rather a piece of what was it.... delicious piece of cake. Well something like that. I trust my source :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby MR-from-NG » Wed Jan 30, 2008 6:36 pm

zan wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
phoenix wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:I bet MR is pissing himself now..................................................(laughing that is) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where have you disappeared to? :lol:

Honestly people this thread has turned into a schoolyard... it's amazing what people say to each other when they don't see each other! :lol:


Turned into a madhouse without you GR :lol: :lol:

Yeah right... as if it was sane before! :lol:

When's your next trip here again? We'll get Phoenix to come along and I'll just laugh my head off watching the two of you go all red! :lol:


Hopefully in the next 3-4 weeks. Enjoy your new home GR. You're right, its embarrassing to get into such childish exchanges with Phoenix, She is after all a lady and I should know better.

Damn computers, damn internet, damn forums. :twisted: :lol:

I hope you can spare 2-3 hours so we can all have another reunion.


It was a pleasure last time and am sure it will be just as good this time. Will let you know the dates I'll be there.

Take care mate and once again enjoy your new house.


I'm game if you organise it for a Tuesday or a Thursday .... :D


Tuesday or Thursday it will be, cant wait. :wink: :wink:


Make sure you sit with your backs to the wall and so that you can see the door guys, just in case a woman with a mustache and a kilt turns up.....Just as I have always imagined her.... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Postby phoenix » Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:19 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
zan wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
phoenix wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
MR-from-NG wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
iceman wrote:I bet MR is pissing himself now..................................................(laughing that is) :lol: :lol: :lol:

Where have you disappeared to? :lol:

Honestly people this thread has turned into a schoolyard... it's amazing what people say to each other when they don't see each other! :lol:


Turned into a madhouse without you GR :lol: :lol:

Yeah right... as if it was sane before! :lol:

When's your next trip here again? We'll get Phoenix to come along and I'll just laugh my head off watching the two of you go all red! :lol:


Hopefully in the next 3-4 weeks. Enjoy your new home GR. You're right, its embarrassing to get into such childish exchanges with Phoenix, She is after all a lady and I should know better.

Damn computers, damn internet, damn forums. :twisted: :lol:

I hope you can spare 2-3 hours so we can all have another reunion.


It was a pleasure last time and am sure it will be just as good this time. Will let you know the dates I'll be there.

Take care mate and once again enjoy your new house.


I'm game if you organise it for a Tuesday or a Thursday .... :D


Tuesday or Thursday it will be, cant wait. :wink: :wink:


Make sure you sit with your backs to the wall and so that you can see the door guys, just in case a woman with a mustache and a kilt turns up.....Just as I have always imagined her.... :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


And Zan ... I imagine you in a pink-sequined, belly-dancing outfit complete with veil .... but very bald on top .... :lol:

It would be nice, if like Deniz you also grew a beard to complete the look 8)
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