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[Leffette]

Gosh, Paphos is way too far!!!

Hello Shipwerck

Thanks for the info...how does one go about and find people, I should make time to surf this site.

Have a good one
Leffette

Hello
First time in this forum.
Does anyone from this forum live in Canada and more specifically in British Columbia?
Leffette

Welcome Lefette 'er indoors (wifey) is from Montreal

Hi again,

In Paphos there is a french connection club, maybe in othere areas as well??

[Mills Chapman]

Hello Mills Chapman

No need to send your American passport to me...You can have my Canadian passport for free.
Did you guys think that Canada is better than Cyprus?
Cheers

Hi Leffette,

I'm not sure if Canada is better than Cyprus (other than being greener and thus not having water problems), but many Americans (especially the progressive/liberal/left-of-center ones) think that Canada is better than the U.S.A. and that it has a higher quality of life. Compared to the U.S., there is far less violent crime in Canada, free health care for everyone, the national test scores in schools are higher, and there is much more international goodwill to Canadians than to the U.S.

Most people in the world think that Canadians are great. Perhaps the only ones who might disagree are the militants in Afghanistan (and maybe Iraq) who sometimes encounter Canadian troops. However, many folks in the world are unhappy with the U.S. government, and thus direct their hostility towards American people in general.

Linked to the crime issue, the gun problem is much worse in the U.S. than in Canada, and from what I hear, there is less of a cocaine problem. Oh, and I think the Canadian social security system (for retirees/pensioners) is better than the one for the U.S. Also, from what I understand, marijuana is not a big crime in Canada, and though I don't smoke/use it, I support that because it frees up the police to focus on more serious issues. And lastly, though I am heterosexual, I have homosexual friends, and I really support civil-union rights for them (essentially the same as marriage in legal terms) so that partners can get health benefits. Canada supports this, but the U.S. doesn't.

The taxes may be lower in the U.S., we don't have to learn French, and it may be relatively warmer here, but other than that, I think the U.S. is not as good a place to live as Canada is.

On the UN livability index for 2006, Canada was #6 and the U.S. was #8. Cyprus was #28. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778562.html

For 2007/2008, Canada was #4, the U.S. had fallen to #12, and Cyprus was still at #28. http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/hdr_200720 ... mplete.pdf

As Amercians are allowed to have dual citizenship with Canadians, I would love to have your passport. Then I can use it to travel with and give it to the airplace hijackers when they single out the Israelis and Americans (and maybe the Brits too). I can claim Canadian innocence.

Unfortunately, I don't know anyway to do this legally.

[Leffette]

Mills Chapman

Thanks for the long letter.

I came here legally. I regret it bitterly. It is all a scam. Canada is full of empty field and are trying to bring as many immigrants as possible to fill out the empty land in the boonies. There is no respect towards any Diplomas and name it, Doctor, Lawyer, Accountant, Engineer. They look down all diplomas. You will find yourself working for $8.00 an hour even if you are 40 or 50 years old....you will be lucky if within a few years you manage to get a decent job.

Crime? Oh yes, they cover the crime. There is lot's of Crime in big cities. They kill each other everyday. Simply it is not on the news. They are being smart to make a big noise on CNN like the Americans do.

There is a big promise on the internet I know. The country of Milk and Honey. No, that is not true.
Medical??? who said is free??? Did you know most companies don't hire full time so you can't get any medical benefits? IF you have no full time job, you can't go to the doctor.

Did you know a simple visit to the Dentist to just pull out a tooth can cost you as much as $120 dollars??? not exaggerating.

BOTTOM LINE
I feel with you, and your deep wish to make it to Canada.
IT is very simple. I bet you if you make an application you will be accepted. IT takes between 2-3 years the process but I guarantee you, you can make it to Canada.

Here is a link to look it up

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/

but honestly don't believe everything you read in the links.

You will end up like all those guys who come from Asia and Philippines in Cyprus and they think they will have a better life, just because the Cypriots have a good life. They end do the odd jobs that no Cypriot will do, with the minimum salary.
It will take you at about 5 or so years to build yourself here, plus another 2-3 years until you get here....so count at about 10 years lost in the drain.

Good Luck though, (sorry I am not a supporter of Canada, neither do I support that people should leave their countries.)

Hello Mills Chapman

No need to send your American passport to me...You can have my Canadian passport for free.
Did you guys think that Canada is better than Cyprus?
Cheers

Hi Leffette,

I'm not sure if Canada is better than Cyprus (other than being greener and thus not having water problems), but many Americans (especially the progressive/liberal/left-of-center ones) think that Canada is better than the U.S.A. and that it has a higher quality of life. Compared to the U.S., there is far less violent crime in Canada, free health care for everyone, the national test scores in schools are higher, and there is much more international goodwill to Canadians than to the U.S.

Most people in the world think that Canadians are great. Perhaps the only ones who might disagree are the militants in Afghanistan (and maybe Iraq) who sometimes encounter Canadian troops. However, many folks in the world are unhappy with the U.S. government, and thus direct their hostility towards American people in general.

Linked to the crime issue, the gun problem is much worse in the U.S. than in Canada, and from what I hear, there is less of a cocaine problem. Oh, and I think the Canadian social security system (for retirees/pensioners) is better than the one for the U.S. Also, from what I understand, marijuana is not a big crime in Canada, and though I don't smoke/use it, I support that because it frees up the police to focus on more serious issues. And lastly, though I am heterosexual, I have homosexual friends, and I really support civil-union rights for them (essentially the same as marriage in legal terms) so that partners can get health benefits. Canada supports this, but the U.S. doesn't.

The taxes may be lower in the U.S., we don't have to learn French, and it may be relatively warmer here, but other than that, I think the U.S. is not as good a place to live as Canada is.

On the UN livability index for 2006, Canada was #6 and the U.S. was #8. Cyprus was #28. http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0778562.html

For 2007/2008, Canada was #4, the U.S. had fallen to #12, and Cyprus was still at #28. http://hdr.undp.org/en/media/hdr_200720 ... mplete.pdf

As Amercians are allowed to have dual citizenship with Canadians, I would love to have your passport. Then I can use it to travel with and give it to the airplace hijackers when they single out the Israelis and Americans (and maybe the Brits too). I can claim Canadian innocence.

Unfortunately, I don't know anyway to do this legally.

[orokliniservices]

leave canada then if you don't like it so much.. you just admitted that you entered there illegally.. then you said you don't support people that leave their countries when you're one of these people..

Canada is a great place to live.. and the whole medical system costs a lot is a load of rubbish.. it depends on what province you're living in.. me, I never paid for any medical care while living in nova scotia. I never paid for a dentist visit, a doctor visit, a hospital visit.. maybe if you're not happy in BC you should think of relocating to another province.. Alberta is a province where yes they do look at diplomas and you are paid for it.. Working for the government.. provincial or federal are great jobs.. you can work an admin job with the provincial government and make a great wage..

[Leffette]

You are an idiot
Where did you read that i entered illegally.
I am here legally
Yes it does cost the medical
They deduct it from your salary
Huge bills
IF you have no full time job, you have no medical benefits, so you pay HUGE bills yourself
NOVA SCOTIA is like a small village in Paphos, that is whyyou found it cheap
We live in the great city of Vancouver
and LEGALLY
i wish i could come back

continueyour sarcasm
waiting

leave canada then if you don't like it so much.. you just admitted that you entered there illegally.. then you said you don't support people that leave their countries when you're one of these people..

Canada is a great place to live.. and the whole medical system costs a lot is a load of rubbish.. it depends on what province you're living in.. me, I never paid for any medical care while living in nova scotia. I never paid for a dentist visit, a doctor visit, a hospital visit.. maybe if you're not happy in BC you should think of relocating to another province.. Alberta is a province where yes they do look at diplomas and you are paid for it.. Working for the government.. provincial or federal are great jobs.. you can work an admin job with the provincial government and make a great wage..

[phoenix]

So Leffettte ...... Why don't you go back to live in Turkey ... or the "TRNC" ?

[Mills Chapman]

Hi Leffette,

This has been an interesting exchange. I should have been clearer in my first post (about swapping passports) as I was half-joking. I would love to have a Canadian passport (ie, Canadian citizenship), but I wouldn't want to give up my American passport and citizenship. It's having dual citizenship that I'd like to have. I was being facetious about the passport trade, but of course I shouldn't write online in such a way that my tone is confusing.

Canada is a beautiful place. Regarding the diplomas, I'm sure the more prestigious organizations know the good diplomas from the bad diplomas. The crime may be bad, but on a national scale, I'm sure it's not as bad as the U.S. Yes, Vancouver's Eastside and Chinatown may be dodgey, but all cities have some bad parts, and I've seen statistics showing Seattle to have triple the murder rate of Vancouver's. A lot of that has to do with the prevalence of guns in the U.S.

The tooth-pulling at a decent U.S. dentist office can cost you twice that much ($240). Dental fees in the U.S. are so high that there is even an industry called "dental tourism" that books people on trips to Mexico and Central Europe where people can have a vacation and get good dental care (and return air) while still paying less overall than a trip to a U.S. dental office. See these Google results to know what I'm talking about: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%2 ... tourism%22

I probably won't move to Canada though I do like Toronto, Vancouver, and Victoria. It just would be nice to marry a good ol' Canadian girl so at least my future kids will have dual citizenship.

The U.S. has its benefits such as warmth and also good business laws that foster innovation (like Silicon Valley and biotechnology). Also, its varied terrain makes roadtrips interesting.

Still, I know a lot of Americans who sew Canadian flags onto their suitcases and knapsacks when they travel abroad. (or they wear t-shirts with Canadian flags)

Have a good day. - Mills

[jacoby]

Leffette you are sadly mistaken and again if you don't like it LEAVE. Ontario has free medical care and yes you pay for it with your taxes how the hell else would it be paid for. As for not recognizing your diploma try any other country in the world most are the same because they demand certain standards. My parents went to Canada with neither a diploma or a cent and had three kids tagging along. By working hard and yes I mean hard my dad was roofer they put there three kids through university and paid of a house and socked away money for their retirement. Land of milk and honey? I wish I knew of such a fairy tale land EYES WIDE OPEN. Every opportunity is what you make it and by the sounds of it your cup is always half empty. There are many return flights I'm sure. We recently moved to Cyprus to try something new and if it doesn't work out so be it. But I'm not here saying all the Cypriots are racist in order to get anything done you need to know someone or be EXTREMELY patient as it takes for ever. But this is Cyprus not Canada this is how things are done so accept it and don't compare it. If you have diplomas wich do you have? As someone else stated you might want to move to another province. ALberta is currently having a huge boom so if you are skilled in any way I'm sure you should not have a problem finding work. As for them wanting to move people to the outskirts it's because the major cities are socially overburdened and the country needs more people spread out as opposed to being concentrated in the major cities. Yes I lived there for 30 years and its a great place to live except for the crappy winter weather.

[Leffette]

Duhhhhhhhh Phoenix I never thought of that.
I will do so, if you only come with me!!!!

I don't mean to say Canada is bad country you guys, but it is not what everyone thinks. You need to work hard to make a living, and you will not be in any better situation, than the one you are all currently in your country.

I love Cyprus Phoenix, I love Canada too, and Turkey is a cosmopolitan country, if it wasn't of them to occupy Cyprus and be our enemies, I would have love to go there.

anything else?

So Leffettte ...... Why don't you go back to live in Turkey ... or the "TRNC" ?

[orokliniservices]

sweetheart you don't need to tell me what my home country and province is like.. I lived there all my life and am dying to go back. Yes, medical in NS is free.. it's something called MSI. Sorry i mis-read your post and see you are there legally but it would appear you're not actually a canadian citizen?? where are you from? wherever that is go back there.. Our country needs one less person like you in it.. complaining about it.. god some people would give their right bollock to live in a country like that..