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Britain definitely caused the Cyprus problem

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Postby Sotos » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:21 pm

In that respect Turkey doesn't need any history lessons from you in its fight against imperialism.


And when the Turks were killing millions to create their empire it was not imperialism? :roll:
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Postby miltiades » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:35 pm

Here is a little story , a true one , that happened many years ago way back in 1953 .
The biggest earthquake to hit Cyprus in the last century had as its epicentre my village in Paphos , Stroumbi the Great !
The British troops were soon on the scene erecting tents for the villagers and sharing out food.
I, along with my two brothers and sister , I was 7 years old at the time , were transported by a kindly middle aged English lady , well at least we thought she was middle aged , to the Limassol orphanage where we stayed , apart from my older brother , for two years . Spent three Xmas's' there and remember them very well .I particularly remember the English men and women visiting the children at the orphanage and sharing out a little comfort to us all. I had my very first real toy given to me by a kind English lady .I do not recall a bloody FILTHY RICH CYPRIOT ever contributing to the orphanage apart from ordinary Cypriots poor themselves but caring . The moral of the story , the overwhelming majority of English are kind hearted gentle men and women who support charitable events more than any other race.
I should also add that in 1958 at the ripe age of 12 I joined ANE , the young brigade of Cypriots fighting the Brits for independence , and I regret none of it .
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Postby purdey » Mon Jan 28, 2008 12:55 pm

It always amazes me,there is good and bad in all cultures,but we always focus on the negative.I have visited the North on one occassion in the past 35 years much to the annoyance of my Cypriot friends.I heard about the dirty Turks and their money grabbing ways.Funnily enough it could not of been further from the truth.In fact the hotel we stayed in was full of Greek Cypriots,not visiting family but having a gamble in the casino.
Greek Cypriots even have footholds in the Turkish property market on mainland Turkey,not your small companies but the big one's.Where do I read of condemnation of that.
We the British are not by any means whiter than white,but we do tend to care about others,and their welfare.
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Postby phoenix » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:11 pm

purdey wrote:Well Phoenix you astound me,where do you get this rubbish from.
Education,we have more Universities per head of population than any other country in Europe.Our entry level and pass rate at University is amongst the highest in the world,our top Universities are still the best in the world.I do not know where you lived in the Uk but it bears no resemblance to what I know as a father with a 12 year old girl.My daughter speaks three languages,but she is not alone ,in her year alone (190 pupils) 98.4% yes 98.4% speak two or more languages other than their mother tongue.
Inner City schools have problems,but we in the UK have always focussed on the neg rather than the pos.
The French,a tabliod story,the majority of UK residents have no problem,in fact we are among the top three visitors to France in Europe,we trade in Billions every day,we even help them out in times of crisis.
Let's not forget the UK is the largest multi cultural society in Europe,with a heddy mix of religions,cultures we seem to do ok in my books.
Cyprus and fish and chips,yes you are correct,but those days are going fast,we travel more frequently now,we travel further afield.Our holiday makers are fed up with high prices and over developed tourist resorts.
Cyprus as a whole,I love it,I have and my family have invested heavilly in Cyprus,property as well as business.I would like to think I have done my bit to support your economy and the people of Cyprus.


Considering I spent most of my time, when I worked at one of Britain's top Universities, in correcting the grammar of University graduates and postgraduates and assisting them with basic maths; I will assume you do not have any experience of what you are talking about.

Also, the Universities set their own pass rates .... the higher the proportion of top grades they award, the bigger the grants they receive .... :D

So what is your point?
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Postby CopperLine » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:19 pm

Also, the Universities set their own pass rates .... the higher the proportion of top grades they award, the bigger the grants they receive ....


Phoenix what you have just said there is absolute crap. If this is what was happening in your 'top university' - which, by the way ? - then you should be whistleblowing to expose basic corruption.

I regret to say it, but you are so full of shit.
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Postby umit07 » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:35 pm

Phoenix

Go easy on the booze :P .


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Postby purdey » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:36 pm

I went to University,I also lectured at two for one year so yes I have limited experience.I also think you will find that British Universities have the highest set pass rates in the World.Have a look at Thessaloniki and Harvard,and compare against Sheffield and Cambridge.

Did you say you spent thirty years in the UK,please tell us learnt something,or are you one of those people who use a country and then abuse it.Please stay in Paphos,we do not need people like yourself in the UK.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:42 pm

Generalizations are always wrong.

There are nice and not so nice people in every country.

If you noticed in this forum it is some British who choose to attack Cypriot people, and some Cypriots then retaliate.

In general Cypriots do not have a problem with the British people. What we have a problem with is the British government and its actions against our country.

Unfortunately some British people instead of showing understanding and support when Cypriots demand the removal of the British bases and a more fair treatment from the British state, they instead attack the Cypriots and defend the crimes of their country against us.

So is there any British here who doubts that the British took Cyprus for their own interests? Is there anybody who doubts the British keep the bases for their own interests? Is there anybody who thinks that the British came to Cyprus and keep there bases here in order to help Cyprus and Cypriots?

If some racists would argue that if we remove the bases they will stop visiting Cyprus as tourists, then honestly those racist colonialist type of people are the last people we want to see setting their foot on our island. They can go to pollute other countries with their presence.
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Postby phoenix » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:49 pm

CopperLine wrote:
Also, the Universities set their own pass rates .... the higher the proportion of top grades they award, the bigger the grants they receive ....


Phoenix what you have just said there is absolute crap. If this is what was happening in your 'top university' - which, by the way ? - then you should be whistleblowing to expose basic corruption.

I regret to say it, but you are so full of shit.



Thank you for the vernacular .....


It's not seen as corruption but "Assessment".

Also, when the polytechnics were converted to Universities, they suddenly promoted a lot of their lecturers to Professor status to improve their Research Assessment Ratings in order to qualify for grants.
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Postby purdey » Mon Jan 28, 2008 1:51 pm

You are a moderator for Gods sake,you are supposedly impartial.You were very keen to have the bases in the past,when under threat,now you want them back.You cannot have your way all the time..
I see very few racist colonial types on this forum,in fact the vast majority support Cyprus and have invested heavily in the country.I think you Sir have a problem with dwelling in the past.
As for British attacking Cypriots it is 50-50,you cannot play the victim all of the time!!!!
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