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[purdey]

It's called show boating or I am superior to you.Pinch of salt,with all Phoenix types,with that much hatred on board the odd off load will not do much damage.

[denizaksulu]

You state that you were educated in the UK and yet you have failed miserably in your assessment of the British people , and I do not include British passport holders whose allegiance is to a foreign country ..
Brittain has the most civilized and caring people you are likely to find in the world , it also has the most uncivilized and uncaring people and those are the Brits that make the news , the hooligans , single mothers uneducated relying on the state for hand outs producing kids right left and centre , mostly < and expecting society at large to take care of their offsprings , it also has a very large contingent of third world illiterate mostly immigrants , asylum seekers scroungers that hate our guts but love our benefits.

The most generous people you will come across are the British , the silent vast majority who do not go to Spain and seek out fish and chips , who do not come to Cyprus expecting hand outs from the government , but are solid citizens , orderly , civilized and caring . Our poor animals in Cyprus , if they could talk they would be singing God save the Queen because so much influence has been exerted by the Brits on animal welfare , also let me add here that many thousands of Cypriots , if not EVERY Cypriot has derived some sort of benefit by the presence of the Brits on our island.
As far as the British involvement with Cyprus as a British colony then the governments of the day were entirely responsible for much of the events that followed the 30s , 40s and 50s. Stubborn as mules , totaly absorbed in their own destiny , ignoring the plight of the people of Cyprus but at the same time acting entirely within the frame work of Empire Rule .
Let us also remember that the UK is the home of more than 250 thousand Cypriots .

Well said M. Funny how everyone is always quick to point out the bad points of another country, but very rarely accept the good. It is good to be patriotic but not obsessive and in so becoming blind to see the facts.

When we go abroad, we do not visit the chip shops etc. We taste the local cuisine, do the trips and try to learn a bit more about the country, the language and its culture. It was very wrong of Phoenix to generalise in such a way. The chip shops are there as the countries still think that is what the Brits want. Just like Cyprus they are 30 years out of date!!

I doubt your educational background Phoenix, but you should put it to better use and stop with the wild accusations. That in itself just tells me just how uneducated you are!

Bubbles x

..... I've got you thinking haven't I?

What? No scathing reply/half witty riposte?

If you had spent so many years working in universities how come it is that you still do not fully comprehend the English language? I refer to an earlier post in which you said when talking about your mother - and this is not the exact quote - I cannot get her to stop, desist using the water? Why the need for two words with the same meaning when one is perfectly acceptable - or is that the Cypriot in you?

Bubbles x

You don't read much, do you Bubbles?

Contraditionally - or whatever word you made up on a prior post
Wrong again Phoenix mou
Bubbles x

So why are you so uncomfortable with word-play?

You're easily unnerved by wordsmithery ....

Phoenix playing guessing games again Ha! Ha!
I cannot stand by and let you think that you are soooooooooooooo perfect - that is just so unfair to the other forum members, you do understand don't you?
Bubbles x

Great entertainment though. Imagine poor Phoenix foiled by her own petard, yet again. I think she should give up her PC or Laptop as they only help her 'pile it on' and nothing else. oh ofcourse the entertainment as well, but there is much more elsewhere on the forum.

Give up now PH....before you neglect the more important things in your life.

[zan]

Please tell me where Iraq comes into the thread.I don't wish to remind you but the Iraqi people wanted change,they asked for help from the coalition.Yes it has gone on and on but ? There are still troops in Iraq,from what I gather the British are there now only as back up and spend 99.9% of their time confined to base.
Phoenix please tell us what problem you have with your countrymen and women (the British).Racism comes in all shapes and forms,skin colour is not the only trigger to such backword views.Maybe have a look at some of the Jewish schools in London,why do they feel the need to have 50ft fences and security 24 7.

What makes you think I have a problem with the British? Seeing things for what they are, does not cause me any problems.

BTW Countrymen and British needs a whole new thread.

I was born British, because I was born in Cyprus, whilst it was under colonial rule.

....... As were millions of Indians, Sri Lankans, Jamaicans, Kenyans, Malaysians etc etc etc in their respective homelands.

Someone early on in the thread implied Cypriots were xenophobic ... the discussion moved onto the British (the core of this thread) and then Zan moved it onto the English.

Niki showed us she understands "Scottish" is different (yet where she gets the idea I am Scottish, is perplexing ... maybe she thinks marriage causes a quick conversion )

It seems to me there are a lot of people here not discussing from an equal level of comprehension.

Futility springs to mind upon the realisation that one has made assumptions as to people's level of understanding ..... then it surmises they haven't a clue what is really under discussion.

Purdey, why don't you start a thread so that we can break down terminology (British, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Greek, Turkish, Cypriot plus more?) so that we have a yardstick

I can't do that as I am in and out all day and can't commit too much time ...

And you say I live in a fictitious world Have a look to see who made the third post on this thread and then come back when you have dried your tears little lady.........The title and your post says it all.....Still smarting from yesterday are we....

What is your point? ....

I never claimed to not have made posts ...I very much keep on thread and it was in direct response to "noaxetogrind" who quotes me in his thread topic ... so it would have been rude to not present him with a response.

The first to assert Cypriot xenophobia that led to the digression (for which I do not have a problem ...I love free-flowing ideas) ... was in fact Pumpy. Then the rest is as above.

So I really do not understand what you are on about Zan ... really you are as flibberty jibberty as they come these days

And... what on Earth was I meant to be smarting about ?... your ability to draw conclusions regarding the discussion at hand is as accurate as Turkey's records on its atrocities ... a suspension of belief. I give you no credence.

Now stop wasting time on inane tittle tattle and offer some interesting perspectives / opinions / youtubes ....

You said that I turned it into a British issue and now you say it was pumpy...Make up your mind......Then you pretend you don't know what I am talking about....
As for your last snipe.......I get information from everywhere and do not subscribe to your insular Greek propaganda resources. I can then filter out the irrelevant and post.....I wish the same could be done to your irrelevance...

When you can account for your astrocities aganst the peaceful Turkish Cypriot people then I will pay attention to your accusations against Turkey... [/i]

Zan concentrate ... it's all written above ... I said you brought up English ... which you did ... go back over your posts ... in fact you accused me of being anti-English when I had not even mentioned them.

We were discussing the British .... (not English!) (are you with me ).

Pumpy brought up xenophobia .....

And you brought up bile and are now choking on it.....

[denizaksulu]

Please tell me where Iraq comes into the thread.I don't wish to remind you but the Iraqi people wanted change,they asked for help from the coalition.Yes it has gone on and on but ? There are still troops in Iraq,from what I gather the British are there now only as back up and spend 99.9% of their time confined to base.
Phoenix please tell us what problem you have with your countrymen and women (the British).Racism comes in all shapes and forms,skin colour is not the only trigger to such backword views.Maybe have a look at some of the Jewish schools in London,why do they feel the need to have 50ft fences and security 24 7.

What makes you think I have a problem with the British? Seeing things for what they are, does not cause me any problems.

BTW Countrymen and British needs a whole new thread.

I was born British, because I was born in Cyprus, whilst it was under colonial rule.

....... As were millions of Indians, Sri Lankans, Jamaicans, Kenyans, Malaysians etc etc etc in their respective homelands.

Someone early on in the thread implied Cypriots were xenophobic ... the discussion moved onto the British (the core of this thread) and then Zan moved it onto the English.

Niki showed us she understands "Scottish" is different (yet where she gets the idea I am Scottish, is perplexing ... maybe she thinks marriage causes a quick conversion )

It seems to me there are a lot of people here not discussing from an equal level of comprehension.

Futility springs to mind upon the realisation that one has made assumptions as to people's level of understanding ..... then it surmises they haven't a clue what is really under discussion.

Purdey, why don't you start a thread so that we can break down terminology (British, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Greek, Turkish, Cypriot plus more?) so that we have a yardstick

I can't do that as I am in and out all day and can't commit too much time ...

And you say I live in a fictitious world Have a look to see who made the third post on this thread and then come back when you have dried your tears little lady.........The title and your post says it all.....Still smarting from yesterday are we....

What is your point? ....

I never claimed to not have made posts ...I very much keep on thread and it was in direct response to "noaxetogrind" who quotes me in his thread topic ... so it would have been rude to not present him with a response.

The first to assert Cypriot xenophobia that led to the digression (for which I do not have a problem ...I love free-flowing ideas) ... was in fact Pumpy. Then the rest is as above.

So I really do not understand what you are on about Zan ... really you are as flibberty jibberty as they come these days

And... what on Earth was I meant to be smarting about ?... your ability to draw conclusions regarding the discussion at hand is as accurate as Turkey's records on its atrocities ... a suspension of belief. I give you no credence.

Now stop wasting time on inane tittle tattle and offer some interesting perspectives / opinions / youtubes ....

You said that I turned it into a British issue and now you say it was pumpy...Make up your mind......Then you pretend you don't know what I am talking about....
As for your last snipe.......I get information from everywhere and do not subscribe to your insular Greek propaganda resources. I can then filter out the irrelevant and post.....I wish the same could be done to your irrelevance...

When you can account for your astrocities aganst the peaceful Turkish Cypriot people then I will pay attention to your accusations against Turkey... [/i]

Zan concentrate ... it's all written above ... I said you brought up English ... which you did ... go back over your posts ... in fact you accused me of being anti-English when I had not even mentioned them.

We were discussing the British .... (not English!) (are you with me ).

Pumpy brought up xenophobia .....

And you brought up bile and are now choking on it.....

Come on Zan, have a bit of compassion. Obviously the poor girl is suffering badly. Is it Britain she misses or England?

[Noaxetogrind]

When I started this thread it was written, partly tongue in cheek but also in a forlorn attempt to show those GCs who wish to blame their present woes on anybody but on themselves, what the alternative would probably have been if the British had not come to the island.

These same GCs are either incapable of accepting or refuse to accept the current situation is the result of the actions of a far from inconsiderable number of their current neighbours . I expect it is the later reason.

Surely it is the TCs living in the north and elsewhere who should be blaming the British, as with Turkey in control of the island, they would never have sufferred so badly as they did from 1963 until they were liberated in 1974.

Of course, if Greece had stood by its obligations in WW1 and gone to the aid of Serbia, then Britain would have ceded the island to Greece. Greece, however, thinking that it would not be on the winning side decided to leave Serbia to its fate. I only recently learned of this part of history and wonder why I have not haerd anything of this from GCs. Conveniently forgotten I guess.

Please forgive me for reverting to the British/English sub thread but someone, I forget who, says they have never
come across anyone Scottish, Welsh or from Northern Island who calls themselves British. One can only assume they have never met any because to say that most don't is absolute rubbish. My wife for one is Welsh but considers herself British first, Welsh second. People may consider themselves one of these entities first and the other second and others may feel both equally. Try finding a non Catholic in N.Ireland who does not consider himself/herself patriotically British.. you could probably count them on one hand. Incidentally these non Catholics mainly originated in Scotland.

[phoenix]

When I started this thread it was written, partly tongue in cheek but also in a forlorn attempt to show those GCs who wish to blame their present woes on anybody but on themselves, what the alternative would probably have been if the British had not come to the island.

These same GCs are either incapable of accepting or refuse to accept the current situation is the result of the actions of a far from inconsiderable number of their current neighbours . I expect it is the later reason.

Surely it is the TCs living in the north and elsewhere who should be blaming the British, as with Turkey in control of the island, they would never have sufferred so badly as they did from 1963 until they were liberated in 1974.

Of course, if Greece had stood by its obligations in WW1 and gone to the aid of Serbia, then Britain would have ceded the island to Greece. Greece, however, thinking that it would not be on the winning side decided to leave Serbia to its fate. I only recently learned of this part of history and wonder why I have not haerd anything of this from GCs. Conveniently forgotten I guess.

Please forgive me for reverting to the British/English sub thread but someone, I forget who, says they have never
come across anyone Scottish, Welsh or from Northern Island who calls themselves British. One can only assume they have never met any because to say that most don't is absolute rubbish. My wife for one is Welsh but considers herself British first, Welsh second. People may consider themselves one of these entities first and the other second and others may feel both equally. Try finding a non Catholic in N.Ireland who does not consider himself/herself patriotically British.. you could probably count them on one hand. Incidentally these non Catholics mainly originated in Scotland.

Most of what you assert is rubbish ... except the bit that refers to Bubbles saying that Scots etc do not consider themselves British ... she still does not understand the difference between calling oneself English / Scottish or British ...

I can't believe I put up with their ignorance for so long ...

[Sotos]

ALL the problems in Cyprus are caused by foreign invadors. If foreign invadors didn't invade Cyprus then what problem would Cyprus have???? It would have NO PROBLEM AT ALL. We would live free in peace on our own island and only foreigners that we liked and they liked us would come here. Not invadors that come with force and want to take our rights and our land!

[Viewpoint]

ALL the problems in Cyprus are caused by foreign invadors. If foreign invadors didn't invade Cyprus then what problem would Cyprus have???? It would have NO PROBLEM AT ALL. We would live free in peace on our own island and only foreigners that we liked and they liked us would come here. Not invadors that come with force and want to take our rights and our land!

Would you have still turned Cyprus into Greece?

[denizaksulu]

ALL the problems in Cyprus are caused by foreign invadors. If foreign invadors didn't invade Cyprus then what problem would Cyprus have???? It would have NO PROBLEM AT ALL. We would live free in peace on our own island and only foreigners that we liked and they liked us would come here. Not invadors that come with force and want to take our rights and our land!

That would be great. No bloody Greeks either. Hooray.

[Noaxetogrind]

Phoenix, I expected you not to understand because reading your first note on this thread it is obvious that you could not comprehend that my comments were not from a TC.

At times I despair with attitudes on this site. For some reason many want to dwell in the past and don't realise that it is necessary to forgive and that both sides will have to compromise if the situation in Cyprus is to resolved. I get the impression that GCs like to see themselves as modern Europeans rather than as the backward or indeed dubious ones, often perceived in Europe.

It is time to change attitudes and come to live in the 21st century rather than a hundred years or so ago.

Fortunately l have met many GCs and TCs who are fantastic friends which gives some hope for the future. Strangely in all instances they are well educated but I guess that could just be a coincidence. I say 'some' hope as it may soon be too late.

I do wonder whether they are the minority and whether there are not reasonable, forward looking politicians for who they can vote. Certainly the present, most powerful, incumbent in the south has proven himself not to be one of these. For your sake I hope you have some and that get into power.