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[zan]

Please tell me where Iraq comes into the thread.I don't wish to remind you but the Iraqi people wanted change,they asked for help from the coalition.Yes it has gone on and on but ? There are still troops in Iraq,from what I gather the British are there now only as back up and spend 99.9% of their time confined to base.
Phoenix please tell us what problem you have with your countrymen and women (the British).Racism comes in all shapes and forms,skin colour is not the only trigger to such backword views.Maybe have a look at some of the Jewish schools in London,why do they feel the need to have 50ft fences and security 24 7.

What makes you think I have a problem with the British? Seeing things for what they are, does not cause me any problems.

BTW Countrymen and British needs a whole new thread.

I was born British, because I was born in Cyprus, whilst it was under colonial rule.

....... As were millions of Indians, Sri Lankans, Jamaicans, Kenyans, Malaysians etc etc etc in their respective homelands.

Someone early on in the thread implied Cypriots were xenophobic ... the discussion moved onto the British (the core of this thread) and then Zan moved it onto the English.

Niki showed us she understands "Scottish" is different (yet where she gets the idea I am Scottish, is perplexing ... maybe she thinks marriage causes a quick conversion )

It seems to me there are a lot of people here not discussing from an equal level of comprehension.

Futility springs to mind upon the realisation that one has made assumptions as to people's level of understanding ..... then it surmises they haven't a clue what is really under discussion.

Purdey, why don't you start a thread so that we can break down terminology (British, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Greek, Turkish, Cypriot plus more?) so that we have a yardstick

I can't do that as I am in and out all day and can't commit too much time ...

And you say I live in a fictitious world Have a look to see who made the third post on this thread and then come back when you have dried your tears little lady.........The title and your post says it all.....Still smarting from yesterday are we....

[purdey]

Phoenix,you were born in Cyprus,from Cypriot parents ? If so you are Cypriot not British.Colonial rule or not you are Cypriot.
Now you may have a Brirish passport,but most Cypriots with British passports still regard themselves as Cypriot.
The old English,British,Scottish and so on confusion,I am confused,the Scottish don't want to be called British,the Welsh are the same,some do some don't,what a bloody mess...
Please excuse my bad language.

[phoenix]

Please tell me where Iraq comes into the thread.I don't wish to remind you but the Iraqi people wanted change,they asked for help from the coalition.Yes it has gone on and on but ? There are still troops in Iraq,from what I gather the British are there now only as back up and spend 99.9% of their time confined to base.
Phoenix please tell us what problem you have with your countrymen and women (the British).Racism comes in all shapes and forms,skin colour is not the only trigger to such backword views.Maybe have a look at some of the Jewish schools in London,why do they feel the need to have 50ft fences and security 24 7.

What makes you think I have a problem with the British? Seeing things for what they are, does not cause me any problems.

BTW Countrymen and British needs a whole new thread.

I was born British, because I was born in Cyprus, whilst it was under colonial rule.

....... As were millions of Indians, Sri Lankans, Jamaicans, Kenyans, Malaysians etc etc etc in their respective homelands.

Someone early on in the thread implied Cypriots were xenophobic ... the discussion moved onto the British (the core of this thread) and then Zan moved it onto the English.

Niki showed us she understands "Scottish" is different (yet where she gets the idea I am Scottish, is perplexing ... maybe she thinks marriage causes a quick conversion )

It seems to me there are a lot of people here not discussing from an equal level of comprehension.

Futility springs to mind upon the realisation that one has made assumptions as to people's level of understanding ..... then it surmises they haven't a clue what is really under discussion.

Purdey, why don't you start a thread so that we can break down terminology (British, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Greek, Turkish, Cypriot plus more?) so that we have a yardstick

I can't do that as I am in and out all day and can't commit too much time ...

And you say I live in a fictitious world Have a look to see who made the third post on this thread and then come back when you have dried your tears little lady.........The title and your post says it all.....Still smarting from yesterday are we....

What is your point? ....

I never claimed to not have made posts ...I very much keep on thread and it was in direct response to "noaxetogrind" who quotes me in his thread topic ... so it would have been rude to not present him with a response.

The first to assert Cypriot xenophobia that led to the digression (for which I do not have a problem ...I love free-flowing ideas) ... was in fact Pumpy. Then the rest is as above.

So I really do not understand what you are on about Zan ... really you are as flibberty jibberty as they come these days

And... what on Earth was I meant to be smarting about ?... your ability to draw conclusions regarding the discussion at hand is as accurate as Turkey's records on its atrocities ... a suspension of belief. I give you no credence.

Now stop wasting time on inane tittle tattle and offer some interesting perspectives / opinions / youtubes ....

[zan]

Please tell me where Iraq comes into the thread.I don't wish to remind you but the Iraqi people wanted change,they asked for help from the coalition.Yes it has gone on and on but ? There are still troops in Iraq,from what I gather the British are there now only as back up and spend 99.9% of their time confined to base.
Phoenix please tell us what problem you have with your countrymen and women (the British).Racism comes in all shapes and forms,skin colour is not the only trigger to such backword views.Maybe have a look at some of the Jewish schools in London,why do they feel the need to have 50ft fences and security 24 7.

What makes you think I have a problem with the British? Seeing things for what they are, does not cause me any problems.

BTW Countrymen and British needs a whole new thread.

I was born British, because I was born in Cyprus, whilst it was under colonial rule.

....... As were millions of Indians, Sri Lankans, Jamaicans, Kenyans, Malaysians etc etc etc in their respective homelands.

Someone early on in the thread implied Cypriots were xenophobic ... the discussion moved onto the British (the core of this thread) and then Zan moved it onto the English.

Niki showed us she understands "Scottish" is different (yet where she gets the idea I am Scottish, is perplexing ... maybe she thinks marriage causes a quick conversion )

It seems to me there are a lot of people here not discussing from an equal level of comprehension.

Futility springs to mind upon the realisation that one has made assumptions as to people's level of understanding ..... then it surmises they haven't a clue what is really under discussion.

Purdey, why don't you start a thread so that we can break down terminology (British, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Greek, Turkish, Cypriot plus more?) so that we have a yardstick

I can't do that as I am in and out all day and can't commit too much time ...

And you say I live in a fictitious world Have a look to see who made the third post on this thread and then come back when you have dried your tears little lady.........The title and your post says it all.....Still smarting from yesterday are we....

What is your point? ....

I never claimed to not have made posts ...I very much keep on thread and it was in direct response to "noaxetogrind" who quotes me in his thread topic ... so it would have been rude to not present him with a response.

The first to assert Cypriot xenophobia that led to the digression (for which I do not have a problem ...I love free-flowing ideas) ... was in fact Pumpy. Then the rest is as above.

So I really do not understand what you are on about Zan ... really you are as flibberty jibberty as they come these days

And... what on Earth was I meant to be smarting about ?... your ability to draw conclusions regarding the discussion at hand is as accurate as Turkey's records on its atrocities ... a suspension of belief. I give you no credence.

Now stop wasting time on inane tittle tattle and offer some interesting perspectives / opinions / youtubes ....

You said that I turned it into a British issue and now you say it was pumpy...Make up your mind......Then you pretend you don't know what I am talking about....
As for your last snipe.......I get information from everywhere and do not subscribe to your insular Greek propaganda resources. I can then filter out the irrelevant and post.....I wish the same could be done to your irrelevance...

When you can account for your astrocities aganst the peaceful Turkish Cypriot people then I will pay attention to your accusations against Turkey... [/i]

[phoenix]

Phoenix,you were born in Cyprus,from Cypriot parents ? If so you are Cypriot not British.Colonial rule or not you are Cypriot.
Now you may have a Brirish passport,but most Cypriots with British passports still regard themselves as Cypriot.
The old English,British,Scottish and so on confusion,I am confused,the Scottish don't want to be called British,the Welsh are the same,some do some don't,what a bloody mess...
Please excuse my bad language.

Your language is fine.

I have never stopped being Cypriot ... in fact Greek Cypriot because my mum is Greek and my dad Cypriot.

But I was also branded British because of the Commonwealth.

Regarding the Scots .... common confusion!
Allow me.
The Scots are also British, as they are part of Great Britain and the Commonwealth.
However they are NOT English and most object very strongly to being called English.

The English are the Anglo-Saxon mish mash ... we could go into this more fully if you do an appropriate thread.

[phoenix]

Please tell me where Iraq comes into the thread.I don't wish to remind you but the Iraqi people wanted change,they asked for help from the coalition.Yes it has gone on and on but ? There are still troops in Iraq,from what I gather the British are there now only as back up and spend 99.9% of their time confined to base.
Phoenix please tell us what problem you have with your countrymen and women (the British).Racism comes in all shapes and forms,skin colour is not the only trigger to such backword views.Maybe have a look at some of the Jewish schools in London,why do they feel the need to have 50ft fences and security 24 7.

What makes you think I have a problem with the British? Seeing things for what they are, does not cause me any problems.

BTW Countrymen and British needs a whole new thread.

I was born British, because I was born in Cyprus, whilst it was under colonial rule.

....... As were millions of Indians, Sri Lankans, Jamaicans, Kenyans, Malaysians etc etc etc in their respective homelands.

Someone early on in the thread implied Cypriots were xenophobic ... the discussion moved onto the British (the core of this thread) and then Zan moved it onto the English.

Niki showed us she understands "Scottish" is different (yet where she gets the idea I am Scottish, is perplexing ... maybe she thinks marriage causes a quick conversion )

It seems to me there are a lot of people here not discussing from an equal level of comprehension.

Futility springs to mind upon the realisation that one has made assumptions as to people's level of understanding ..... then it surmises they haven't a clue what is really under discussion.

Purdey, why don't you start a thread so that we can break down terminology (British, English, Scottish, Welsh, Irish, Greek, Turkish, Cypriot plus more?) so that we have a yardstick

I can't do that as I am in and out all day and can't commit too much time ...

And you say I live in a fictitious world Have a look to see who made the third post on this thread and then come back when you have dried your tears little lady.........The title and your post says it all.....Still smarting from yesterday are we....

What is your point? ....

I never claimed to not have made posts ...I very much keep on thread and it was in direct response to "noaxetogrind" who quotes me in his thread topic ... so it would have been rude to not present him with a response.

The first to assert Cypriot xenophobia that led to the digression (for which I do not have a problem ...I love free-flowing ideas) ... was in fact Pumpy. Then the rest is as above.

So I really do not understand what you are on about Zan ... really you are as flibberty jibberty as they come these days

And... what on Earth was I meant to be smarting about ?... your ability to draw conclusions regarding the discussion at hand is as accurate as Turkey's records on its atrocities ... a suspension of belief. I give you no credence.

Now stop wasting time on inane tittle tattle and offer some interesting perspectives / opinions / youtubes ....

You said that I turned it into a British issue and now you say it was pumpy...Make up your mind......Then you pretend you don't know what I am talking about....
As for your last snipe.......I get information from everywhere and do not subscribe to your insular Greek propaganda resources. I can then filter out the irrelevant and post.....I wish the same could be done to your irrelevance...

When you can account for your astrocities aganst the peaceful Turkish Cypriot people then I will pay attention to your accusations against Turkey... [/i]

Zan concentrate ... it's all written above ... I said you brought up English ... which you did ... go back over your posts ... in fact you accused me of being anti-English when I had not even mentioned them.

We were discussing the British .... (not English!) (are you with me ).

Pumpy brought up xenophobia .....

[purdey]

Great, confusion over,thank you.I don't have any idea how to start a thread on British,English in fighting.It will turn into a bigger argument than the Cyprus problem.
I do know living in the Lake District and visiting Carlisle and Scotland on a regular basis that the Scottish (in some quarters) do not like been reffered to as British.Let's be fair I can understand there point of view.

[webbo]

Great, confusion over,thank you.I don't have any idea how to start a thread on British,English in fighting.It will turn into a bigger argument than the Cyprus problem.
I do know living in the Lake District and visiting Carlisle and Scotland on a regular basis that the Scottish (in some quarters) do not like been reffered to as British.Let's be fair I can understand there point of view.

I have never met anyone from Scotland, Ireland or Wales who state they are British!!!!!!!

Bubbles x

[webbo]

You state that you were educated in the UK and yet you have failed miserably in your assessment of the British people , and I do not include British passport holders whose allegiance is to a foreign country ..
Brittain has the most civilized and caring people you are likely to find in the world , it also has the most uncivilized and uncaring people and those are the Brits that make the news , the hooligans , single mothers uneducated relying on the state for hand outs producing kids right left and centre , mostly < and expecting society at large to take care of their offsprings , it also has a very large contingent of third world illiterate mostly immigrants , asylum seekers scroungers that hate our guts but love our benefits.

The most generous people you will come across are the British , the silent vast majority who do not go to Spain and seek out fish and chips , who do not come to Cyprus expecting hand outs from the government , but are solid citizens , orderly , civilized and caring . Our poor animals in Cyprus , if they could talk they would be singing God save the Queen because so much influence has been exerted by the Brits on animal welfare , also let me add here that many thousands of Cypriots , if not EVERY Cypriot has derived some sort of benefit by the presence of the Brits on our island.
As far as the British involvement with Cyprus as a British colony then the governments of the day were entirely responsible for much of the events that followed the 30s , 40s and 50s. Stubborn as mules , totaly absorbed in their own destiny , ignoring the plight of the people of Cyprus but at the same time acting entirely within the frame work of Empire Rule .
Let us also remember that the UK is the home of more than 250 thousand Cypriots .

Well said M. Funny how everyone is always quick to point out the bad points of another country, but very rarely accept the good. It is good to be patriotic but not obsessive and in so becoming blind to see the facts.

When we go abroad, we do not visit the chip shops etc. We taste the local cuisine, do the trips and try to learn a bit more about the country, the language and its culture. It was very wrong of Phoenix to generalise in such a way. The chip shops are there as the countries still think that is what the Brits want. Just like Cyprus they are 30 years out of date!!

I doubt your educational background Phoenix, but you should put it to better use and stop with the wild accusations. That in itself just tells me just how uneducated you are!

Bubbles x

..... I've got you thinking haven't I?

What? No scathing reply/half witty riposte?

If you had spent so many years working in universities how come it is that you still do not fully comprehend the English language? I refer to an earlier post in which you said when talking about your mother - and this is not the exact quote - I cannot get her to stop, desist using the water? Why the need for two words with the same meaning when one is perfectly acceptable - or is that the Cypriot in you?

Bubbles x

You don't read much, do you Bubbles?

Contraditionally - or whatever word you made up on a prior post
Wrong again Phoenix mou
Bubbles x

So why are you so uncomfortable with word-play?

You're easily unnerved by wordsmithery ....

Phoenix playing guessing games again Ha! Ha!
I cannot stand by and let you think that you are soooooooooooooo perfect - that is just so unfair to the other forum members, you do understand don't you?
Bubbles x

[purdey]

There are a few in the borders who do not mind the British tag,but the vast majority recent been called British.