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The trouble is, "Greek" Cypriots aren't Greek

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby humanist » Fri Feb 01, 2008 9:28 pm

Nikki
I must be missing something... If you are from England you are English, if you are from Ireland you are Irish, if you are from Greece you are Greek, if you are from Cyprus you are Cypriot. I may be uneducated in this but it makes no sense to me why people from Cyprus are not just Cypriot. You are not Greek!!! You speak the language but that is meaningless.

I know there will be a barrage of historical facts and immigrants that refuse to name themselves by the country they were born but my comment is from an unbiased, non political perspective. Can't you be proud to be Cypriot? I just don't get it!!



Nikki, I don't get it either and I am one of those Cypriots who has the Turks calling me Greek, the Greeks calling me Greek, the T/C's and G/C's respectively calling me Greek. Greeks lived in Cyprus for ever at it seems, the Ottoman period left 500 years ago and their descendants still hold on to that. I live in Australia where the British who came here just a ew hundred years ago have managed near independece and are happy to be called Australians the Americans another young nation have anaged to become proud of their newlly formed coutry and identify as American, perhaps out donkey's as Umit posted are the true Cypriots.

GOoooooooooo figure girlfriend.
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Postby phoenix » Fri Feb 01, 2008 10:25 pm

humanist wrote:Nikki
I must be missing something... If you are from England you are English, if you are from Ireland you are Irish, if you are from Greece you are Greek, if you are from Cyprus you are Cypriot. I may be uneducated in this but it makes no sense to me why people from Cyprus are not just Cypriot. You are not Greek!!! You speak the language but that is meaningless.

I know there will be a barrage of historical facts and immigrants that refuse to name themselves by the country they were born but my comment is from an unbiased, non political perspective. Can't you be proud to be Cypriot? I just don't get it!!



Nikki, I don't get it either and I am one of those Cypriots who has the Turks calling me Greek, the Greeks calling me Greek, the T/C's and G/C's respectively calling me Greek. Greeks lived in Cyprus for ever at it seems, the Ottoman period left 500 years ago and their descendants still hold on to that. I live in Australia where the British who came here just a ew hundred years ago have managed near independece and are happy to be called Australians the Americans another young nation have anaged to become proud of their newlly formed coutry and identify as American, perhaps out donkey's as Umit posted are the true Cypriots.

GOoooooooooo figure girlfriend.


Humanists precisely because the colonisers started with a blank slate (effectively ignoring the aboriginals, who had no experience of seeing off invaders), then they were free to call themselves what they liked ...... Hence Australian.

But Cyprus has a far longer complex-history and those people that are putting up a fight to rename us and wipe the slate clean of the native Cypriots have not taken into account the resilient survival abilities of us natives (along with our Greek-shared history) who have done all this before .... and survived.

Don't let the Turks embarrass you into calling yourself evermore complex variations.

You are Cypriot ... enough. :D

They are latter-day invaders that are trying all sorts of tactics to eliminate us.
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Postby repulsewarrior » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:39 pm

umit,

if i can add my two cents, we gotta live with each other, and weve been living with each other for a long time now.
if you focus on the last fifty years you play into a game, about 150 yrs old, set up for you, with its definition of 'us' and 'them'. if you look at this problem in a broader scope you may realise that intolerance has no racial or ethnic bound. futuristicly, if things continue to a natural course, there will be an end to africa's travail, there will be peace in the middle east, over the next two hundred years, cyprus has the potential to hold a population of twelve million. can you imagine how the demographics will change. we have the choice to be accomadating, and to sustain a number of national identities while we can be united, having an identity, as this island's dwellers sovereign for its representation, as cypriots. i have on many occasions called upon all members without consideration for their ethnicity to consider this 'peril', which in reality is the single course of action we can take to assure our growth and our security. Bizonal and Bicommunal, meaning: two parts; each part made up of several geographical components, two identities; as individuals and as persons.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Fri Feb 01, 2008 11:43 pm

I'm in agreement with those who say that Greek-speaking Cypriots aren't Greek.The Turkish-speaking Cypriots aren't Turks either.

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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:33 am

BC Numismatics wrote:I'm in agreement with those who say that Greek-speaking Cypriots aren't Greek.The Turkish-speaking Cypriots aren't Turks either.

Aidan.


Why please clarify, why were we not just Cypriots back in 1963?
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Postby BC Numismatics » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:40 am

Viewpoint,the citizens of both communities have much more in common than we think.It is the ordinary people who are being led astray,thanks to the governments of both Greece & Turkey.

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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:41 am

BC Numismatics wrote:Viewpoint,the citizens of both communities have much more in common than we think.It is the ordinary people who are being led astray,thanks to the governments of both Greece & Turkey.

Aidan.


The problem is one community wants to dominate and the other does not wanted to be dominated.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:44 am

Viewpoint,YOU really ARE extremely gullible! You've bought the Turkish government's propaganda line hook,line,& sinker.

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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:46 am

BC Numismatics wrote:Viewpoint,YOU really ARE extremely gullible! You've bought the Turkish government's propaganda line hook,line,& sinker.

Aidan.


Kindly explain to me how this will not be the case.
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Postby BC Numismatics » Sat Feb 02, 2008 12:49 am

Viewpoint,you should try flying the flag of the Republic of Cyprus up there in northern Nicosia to see what reaction you get from your neighbours.

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