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[BC Numismatics]

Marz,I don't understand why the governments of both Australia & New Zealand still persist in maintaining relations with the racist regime in Ankara,especially around the time of Anzac Day (25th. of April).

In the past few days,we've had the news of a New Zealand government-owned communications company being encouraged to do business by installing mobile phone towers in another country ruled by a barbaric regime - Burma.

The New Zealand government's foreign affairs & external relations policies are braindead,as there are sanctions against the military-led government of Fiji (a fellow British Commonwealth member state),yet it persists in doing business with countries with terrible human rights records.Turkey is almost as bad as China & Iran.

Who agrees with me on this?

Aidan.

[Eliko]

Aidan, where matters of finance are concerned, politicians will deal with the Devil himself.

[Expatkiwi]

Aidan,

I've been to ANZAC Day commemorations in the past. The Turkish representatives at these events quote quite a moving tribute to the ANZAC dead by Ataturk himself. Also, ANZAC Cove is officially named that in Turkey, and the Australian and New Zealand war cemetaries on the Gallipoli peninsula are well-looked after by Turkey.

[Viewpoint]

Greed...If the Turkish Army had respected the Zurich Agreement, instead of causing the suffering of Cypriots ten fold, where would that have led us?... Probably a reformed Constitution, and a State where we could all respect one another without the bigotry both "sides" play so well, today. If the Turkish Army had not changed the toponomy of the land they occupy, if they had not sought to "Turkify" the surnames of its people, if they had not worked so hard at changing the demographics, it would be less obvious to the rest of the world, their aim. Had Turkey decided to be a representative of Mankind, by respecting International Law and the Treaties they sign (to the letter) then the "Turks" of Thrace would have had a credible representative who can speak for them, and the world would hold Turkey in much higher esteem.

So what you are saying is it was ok for you to hit me over the head with a hammer but you expected me to hit you with a feather. Well I am sorry but life does not go that way, as you were shooting hundreds of Mehmetciks dead on the shores or Kyrenia or mutilating Turkish officers, the response you provoked was the full blast reaction that any army would give.

You GCs had the opportunity to support and nurture Cypriotism yet you had other plans, now you complain about Turkey and the TCs because we stopped you from following out your dreams which to us would have cost us dearly a price we were not prepared to pay.

You had your chance and you blew it.

[Viewpoint]

VP, you didnt fight in 1974 you ran away to the north while the Turkish troops came to fight for you.

anyway you want trust hey, well why should we trust you?
AAfter 35 yearrs of peace you have had nothing to worry about i think that proves enough.
You gonig to say we are safe becasue of the 40k troops on the island. well all those troops cant be everywhere at once.
Do you feel safe now with GC passing through the buffer zone everyday to your side of the fence, maybe someone is watching you right now. You a few others seem to be suffering from paranoia.

We ran for our lives, it was your dream of enosis that brought the coup and the Turkish army to the island so you only have yourselves to thank for the current situation.

As far as GC crossing to the TRNC they are welcome as long as they abide by our laws and if they don't then they will be dealt with by our authorities not yours.

Yes to be honest the 40.000 troops are a great deterrent to stopping the GCs from doing anything stupid as they have shown in the past. They have maintained a peaceful and prosperous existence for all on the island.

[BC Numismatics]

Dean,If I had my way,only representatives from Australia,New Zealand,Great Britain,Newfoundland,& France attending Anzac Day commemorations.There were contingents from Great Britain & France that also landed at Anzac Cove on the 25th. of April 1915.

A contingent from Newfoundland landed at Suvla Bay.

The Turks were the enemy,which is why they shouldn't be welcome at Anzac Day commemorations.

Aidan.

[DT.]

Greed...If the Turkish Army had respected the Zurich Agreement, instead of causing the suffering of Cypriots ten fold, where would that have led us?... Probably a reformed Constitution, and a State where we could all respect one another without the bigotry both "sides" play so well, today. If the Turkish Army had not changed the toponomy of the land they occupy, if they had not sought to "Turkify" the surnames of its people, if they had not worked so hard at changing the demographics, it would be less obvious to the rest of the world, their aim. Had Turkey decided to be a representative of Mankind, by respecting International Law and the Treaties they sign (to the letter) then the "Turks" of Thrace would have had a credible representative who can speak for them, and the world would hold Turkey in much higher esteem.

So what you are saying is it was ok for you to hit me over the head with a hammer but you expected me to hit you with a feather. Well I am sorry but life does not go that way, as you were shooting hundreds of Mehmetciks dead on the shores or Kyrenia or mutilating Turkish officers, the response you provoked was the full blast reaction that any army would give.

You GCs had the opportunity to support and nurture Cypriotism yet you had other plans, now you complain about Turkey and the TCs because we stopped you from following out your dreams which to us would have cost us dearly a price we were not prepared to pay.

You had your chance and you blew it.

I want every single GC on this forum to write a full page apology to the Turkish army for shooting at them while they were trying to invade.

And next time you watch a mehmetchik rape a 13 year old I want you all to hold her down for him.

Asihtir malaka.

[zan]

Greed...If the Turkish Army had respected the Zurich Agreement, instead of causing the suffering of Cypriots ten fold, where would that have led us?... Probably a reformed Constitution, and a State where we could all respect one another without the bigotry both "sides" play so well, today. If the Turkish Army had not changed the toponomy of the land they occupy, if they had not sought to "Turkify" the surnames of its people, if they had not worked so hard at changing the demographics, it would be less obvious to the rest of the world, their aim. Had Turkey decided to be a representative of Mankind, by respecting International Law and the Treaties they sign (to the letter) then the "Turks" of Thrace would have had a credible representative who can speak for them, and the world would hold Turkey in much higher esteem.

So what you are saying is it was ok for you to hit me over the head with a hammer but you expected me to hit you with a feather. Well I am sorry but life does not go that way, as you were shooting hundreds of Mehmetciks dead on the shores or Kyrenia or mutilating Turkish officers, the response you provoked was the full blast reaction that any army would give.

You GCs had the opportunity to support and nurture Cypriotism yet you had other plans, now you complain about Turkey and the TCs because we stopped you from following out your dreams which to us would have cost us dearly a price we were not prepared to pay.

You had your chance and you blew it.

I want every single GC on this forum to write a full page apology to the Turkish army for shooting at them while they were trying to invade.

And next time you watch a mehmetchik rape a 13 year old I want you all to hold her down for him.

Asihtir malaka.

Still trying to blur the edges DT It does not work anymore buddy...You are flogging a dead horse...The only people you are fooling is your own and they are becoming isolated every day with that kind of thinking. Of course if we did go with your scenario..The punishment for innocent TCs that chose to stay out of both wars,that of the GCs against GC coupists and Turks against the coupists, was massacring them and forcing even more reaction from Turkey......

[DT.]

Greed...If the Turkish Army had respected the Zurich Agreement, instead of causing the suffering of Cypriots ten fold, where would that have led us?... Probably a reformed Constitution, and a State where we could all respect one another without the bigotry both "sides" play so well, today. If the Turkish Army had not changed the toponomy of the land they occupy, if they had not sought to "Turkify" the surnames of its people, if they had not worked so hard at changing the demographics, it would be less obvious to the rest of the world, their aim. Had Turkey decided to be a representative of Mankind, by respecting International Law and the Treaties they sign (to the letter) then the "Turks" of Thrace would have had a credible representative who can speak for them, and the world would hold Turkey in much higher esteem.

So what you are saying is it was ok for you to hit me over the head with a hammer but you expected me to hit you with a feather. Well I am sorry but life does not go that way, as you were shooting hundreds of Mehmetciks dead on the shores or Kyrenia or mutilating Turkish officers, the response you provoked was the full blast reaction that any army would give.

You GCs had the opportunity to support and nurture Cypriotism yet you had other plans, now you complain about Turkey and the TCs because we stopped you from following out your dreams which to us would have cost us dearly a price we were not prepared to pay.

You had your chance and you blew it.

I want every single GC on this forum to write a full page apology to the Turkish army for shooting at them while they were trying to invade.

And next time you watch a mehmetchik rape a 13 year old I want you all to hold her down for him.

Asihtir malaka.

Still trying to blur the edges DT It does not work anymore buddy...You are flogging a dead horse...The only people you are fooling is your own and they are becoming isolated every day with that kind of thinking. Of course if we did go with your scenario..The punishment for innocent TCs that chose to stay out of both wars,that of the GCs against GC coupists and Turks against the coupists, was massacring them and forcing even more reaction from Turkey......

You've lost it You people are now trying to tell me that we're at fault for shooting back at an invading force from a 70m country against 500,000 people.
You've lost it

[zan]

Greed...If the Turkish Army had respected the Zurich Agreement, instead of causing the suffering of Cypriots ten fold, where would that have led us?... Probably a reformed Constitution, and a State where we could all respect one another without the bigotry both "sides" play so well, today. If the Turkish Army had not changed the toponomy of the land they occupy, if they had not sought to "Turkify" the surnames of its people, if they had not worked so hard at changing the demographics, it would be less obvious to the rest of the world, their aim. Had Turkey decided to be a representative of Mankind, by respecting International Law and the Treaties they sign (to the letter) then the "Turks" of Thrace would have had a credible representative who can speak for them, and the world would hold Turkey in much higher esteem.

So what you are saying is it was ok for you to hit me over the head with a hammer but you expected me to hit you with a feather. Well I am sorry but life does not go that way, as you were shooting hundreds of Mehmetciks dead on the shores or Kyrenia or mutilating Turkish officers, the response you provoked was the full blast reaction that any army would give.

You GCs had the opportunity to support and nurture Cypriotism yet you had other plans, now you complain about Turkey and the TCs because we stopped you from following out your dreams which to us would have cost us dearly a price we were not prepared to pay.

You had your chance and you blew it.

I want every single GC on this forum to write a full page apology to the Turkish army for shooting at them while they were trying to invade.

And next time you watch a mehmetchik rape a 13 year old I want you all to hold her down for him.

Asihtir malaka.

Still trying to blur the edges DT It does not work anymore buddy...You are flogging a dead horse...The only people you are fooling is your own and they are becoming isolated every day with that kind of thinking. Of course if we did go with your scenario..The punishment for innocent TCs that chose to stay out of both wars,that of the GCs against GC coupists and Turks against the coupists, was massacring them and forcing even more reaction from Turkey......

You've lost it You people are now trying to tell me that we're at fault for shooting back at an invading force from a 70m country against 500,000 people.
You've lost it

NO!!!! I am saying that you were killing innocent TCS that were caught behind the lines........ Put he blur tool away mate...IT don't work any more....